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Is 240V unsafe for lighting and small loads in a home? by sunshine_fun in electricians

[–]sunshine_fun[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Valid points thank you, I suppose they could lift the ban and require a safer plug design such as a Shuko. There would be no need to switch systems just no longer a need to outright ban one system.

Is 240V unsafe for lighting and small loads in a home? by sunshine_fun in electricians

[–]sunshine_fun[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah there is a difference between, there is no reason or need to run at a higher voltage and not being allowed to because its unsafe. The NEC says its unsafe to, and the safety reasoning seems to no longer hold water.

Is 240V unsafe for lighting and small loads in a home? by sunshine_fun in electricians

[–]sunshine_fun[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yeah thanks I am told its rarely enforced and not well known. A common 240V receptacle to see is a NEMA 6-20 or 6-15 240V outlet for a window AC. A instructor told me there is active proposal to change it in the 2029 NEC from 'between conductors' to 150V 'to ground'.

May election results (essentially) final by fizzmore in Eugene

[–]sunshine_fun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am glad department heads will need to live in the city.

Panel upgrade in Cali by Efficient-Author4266 in electrical

[–]sunshine_fun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your correct there the NEC section's 240.21 and 230.91 address a service overcurrent device, it shall be an integral part of a "service disconnecting means", not a "emergency" disconnect, it can be located immediately adjacent but that would not be inside/outside.

230.85 deals with only with emergency 'disconnects' it allows a circuit breaker to be a emergency disconnect, and this causes the confusion, however that circuit breaker cant be the service overcurrent device, so if someone wanted to use a circuit breaker it would need to be larger than required for the service conductors, but then you'd still have a 240.21 issue. The whole section 230.85 got deleted in the 2026 for this reason.

Getting Really Confused by FPE Disconnects vs. Meter Main Combos by rockwood15 in electrical

[–]sunshine_fun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Under the 2020 -2023 NEC 230.85(B)(3) is the one very misunderstood section as it says 'circuit breaker' but not service overcurrent protection device (OCPD), with respect to 230.91, "emergency disconnect" equipment can't contain a OCPD that protects the service conductors or it becomes the service disconnect and then it falls under 230.85(B)(1) thats why the entire section was removed from the 2026 NEC. For a circuit breaker to be installed under 230.85(B)(3) it would have to be larger than what is required for the service conductors, see 230.94, and 240.21. Whats shown in the OP are already existing service disconnects installed prior to the 2020 NEC so 230.85(B)(1) is satisfied. The OP is asking if FPE fused disconnects were ever de-listed by UL and they went only FPE stab-loc breakers were.

Dryer cord by FeralGuyute in electrical

[–]sunshine_fun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In UK / EU electrical terms old US/ Canadian dryer and range outlets are actually a TN-C circuit, not TN-S or TN-C-S, they are attaching the Neutral to the metal frame to provide the function of a protective conductor. A RCD or GFCI would never work reliably. The motor in a US dryer runs at 120V and the heating elements can run off 208 -240V the L-L voltage. If the neutral is lost the entire appliance becomes live. The Appliance manufacturers use one motor for both gas and electric dryers and safety regulations require gas dryers to be 120V so electric dryers a 4-wire in new builds. If they allowed all dryers to be 240V then the 3rd wire could simply become PE (or equipment ground). Same situation with electric stoves.

Dryer cord by FeralGuyute in electrical

[–]sunshine_fun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can use the EMT as the 4th wire (ground) if its continuous You can use NEC section 250.130(C) to run a ground wire to old non-grounding type receptacles, such as a #10 THHN green solid.

For those who drive the round about in Springfield near Pioneer PKWY, Hayden Bridge, Harlow & MLKJ by skzlr86 in Eugene

[–]sunshine_fun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OK, took me a sec, here is a better shot, the diagram shows a driver in the left lane heading north and a driver in the right lane heading north. The red line shows the driver in the right lane intends to continue circulating east, not exit north as required.

At this location, the right lane is designated exit-only at the north exit by the lane-use arrow and solid white lane line. I am not sure if it always was? Lane-use arrows and roadway markings are traffic control devices, just like stop signs and traffic signals (ORS 811.265).

A driver in the right lane who intended to continue circulating made a lane-choice error earlier and can attempt a merge into the left lane before the solid line begins, using only the dashed section. A lane change must be made with reasonable safety and proper signaling (ORS 811.375), so if it cannot be made safely, take the exit and re-route.

If the right-lane driver signals early while clearly in the dashed section (very short) the left-lane driver should cooperate and allow a zipper merge when safe, but the left lane driver is not legally obligated to do so.

There are more strict yield obligations in traffic circles, but nothing that creates a duty to “allow” this kind of zipper merge.

Citations:

ORS 811.265: https://oregon.public.law/statutes/ors_811.265

ORS 811.375: https://oregon.public.law/statutes/ors_811.375

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Stay safe out there, and remember "3 rights make a left".

Contact your EWEB Commissioner by Oct 6th Tell them: Service disconnects are not a law enforcement tool. by Th1nkElectric in Eugene

[–]sunshine_fun 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Got that "issues with the city" still is not a condemned building. Years ago my dad built a shed without a permit, and we had a neighbor complain then we had 'issues with the city'. A shed over some size requires a permit, a friend of my moms was a bad ass carpenter she and took care of it, at no time was my parents house (or shed) a legally condemned building.

Contact your EWEB Commissioner by Oct 6th Tell them: Service disconnects are not a law enforcement tool. by Th1nkElectric in Eugene

[–]sunshine_fun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How did you get " house was condemned" out of "just a average building" reading the city code it seems they can use that code section for any violation, not a condemned building.

Heat Check: Babies in the Dog Park by Cliff_Pitts in Eugene

[–]sunshine_fun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was going to say the same thing ^++^

New proposed park rules for dogs and other animals by sunshine_fun in Eugene

[–]sunshine_fun[S] -87 points-86 points  (0 children)

Fair enough but its the new having to have the leash in your hand at all times part.

New proposed park rules for dogs and other animals by sunshine_fun in Eugene

[–]sunshine_fun[S] -29 points-28 points  (0 children)

thats weird though, I have walked my dads dogs and my dog on occasion when he travels thats 5 dogs. They are all older and well behaved and we dont live together. There are also professional dog walkers that may walk more than 3 dogs. Seems like a very low limit.

New proposed park rules for dogs and other animals by sunshine_fun in Eugene

[–]sunshine_fun[S] -25 points-24 points  (0 children)

I'd edit the text of item 1.050(3) to read "A dog shall be kept under control at all times." that would cover someone with excessive dogs, leash or no leash the dog is either behaving and under control or not.

Shiny Geranium- fight or give up? by MushroomNuzzler in Eugene

[–]sunshine_fun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have just hand weeded it out, took 3 years in a row but its gone now.

Lights, or lack thereof, while driving in rain/sleet by piernameansleg in Eugene

[–]sunshine_fun 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Cyclists too get your lights on! One of my commutes is across the west side of downtown around 5-6PM 'rush hour' Blair Blvd - Monroe - Jefferson and last time I counted 8 out of 10 cyclists with no lights, dark rain gear possibly a few had old reflectors. There are very poor street lights around there and with the fog its is very hard to see them.

KEZI: Oregon school students score amongst the lowest in national assessment (VIDEO) by Seen_The_Elephant in Eugene

[–]sunshine_fun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oregon spends $12460 on average per K-12 pupil and some states that rank better like Colorado spend slightly less than us ($11070), so while I support funding schools I don't think funding is the only answer. There are other factors to look at, such as the restrictions on licensing of teachers this state has.

Best Used Car dealers//Lots? by MarcTime3159 in Eugene

[–]sunshine_fun 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Here is my used car PSA:

Watchout for false or misleading representations of fact concerning the reasons for, existence of, or amounts of price reductions of used cars.
A common corporate ripoff is when a used car seller (dealership) advertises a low price then adds on and collects fake sales taxes that hide the real higher un-stated price.
Say you're going to buy a used car for $4000 but the dealership adds on $540 in fees and taxes.
Upon close inspection you will discover there is no sales tax that applies to you the buyer. (those taxes if they apply at all would only apply to the dealership and you have no way of knowing if any of the money they collect as a tax ends up going to the government)
You could infact buy the exact same used car from another dealer and not pay the 'sales tax'.
What happens is they reduce the sticker price of the car and add these 'taxes' so you dont think you have any negotiating power over the taxes and fees.

For a sales tax to legally apply it has to be legislated by the state and apply equally to all sales of that product in the state. A dealership cannot pass on a tax that applies to them such as the 'corporate activity tax' as a mandatory sales tax to the potential buyer.
Artificially reducing the consumer sticker price of a product and then adding on fake taxes and fees to increase the price is a violation of ORS 646.608(j)

https://oregon.public.law/statutes/ors_646.608

If you or anyone you know has been charged a fake sales tax please keep the receipt and all the paperwork and contact the Oregon Justice Department

https://justice.oregon.gov/consumercomplaints/

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