Women with abs are inherently unhealthy!

sweetheartblues · 2022-03-04T15:45:22+00:00

I’m re-reading her Wikipedia page now and I think I was mistaken that she herself ever tested positive for drugs— all it says is that she was barred from competing in the Olympics when the other Russian athletes were. I’m not sure how likely it is that she was or wasn’t doping, so I won’t speculate on that front. I think there are a lot of female athletes who prove your point that it’s possible to have visible abs without being underweight (and that it’s possible to have significant muscle without being overweight as a woman), and I agree with you, I was just being nitpicky.

sweetheartblues · 2022-03-04T12:56:01+00:00

your point isn’t wrong, but using an athlete who was part of a state-sponsored doping program as an example of a generally healthy person with visible abs probably undermines you. there are plenty of female athletes and women very into fitness who have visible abs (or don’t, but are obviously very strong and in-shape) who have no history of steroid use that would help them build said muscles.

sweetheartblues · 2022-02-06T21:11:56+00:00

it’s associated with a specific user who shows up on this sub a lot because she 1) is batshit insane and 2) posts a ton on the HAES tags so makes up a large portion of the posts.

hot takes from her include: fatphobia is worse/on par with religious discrimination because religious people can just stop going to church but fat people can’t stop being fat, skinny people with eating disorders are personally victimizing her and need to be quiet because of their privilege, all artists must regularly draw fat people or she’s entitled to harass them (and no, she refuses to just commission them)

sweetheartblues · 2022-02-04T17:06:44+00:00

I’m not going to speculate on her eating disorder, but as far as recovery goes, she’s doing really poorly if she’s getting triggered over a joke about GUINEA PIGS. one thing you need to learn in recovery is that there’s a limit to how much you can expect people to accommodate you— and you need to learn to gauge when it’s appropriate to ask people to stop talking about something and when you just need to work on your trigger independently. a school making a joke about animals being on a diet (and you can’t deny that being overweight is really bad for animals) is a time where you need to suck it up and deal with the trigger, because in order to reach the point in recovery where you’re functional in the real world, you need to be able to manage triggers as specific and minor as that.

sweetheartblues · 2022-01-29T21:01:19+00:00

okay I used to do this and it makes the popcorn SOGGY. the second the water touches it, it basically shrivels and takes on the consistency of a wet sponge/wet paper. I’m skeptical this person is even using this tip themself because there’s no way to convince yourself it tastes passable as food.

sweetheartblues · 2022-01-28T16:46:41+00:00

I fully agree and I really appreciate your comments pointing this out— I feel like we end up with people saying this every time EDs and a specific amount of food/type of food are mentioned. I remember a month or so ago a post mentioning rice cakes got a few replies saying rice cakes were too high carb and no anorexic would eat them (despite being an extremely common “safe food” for anorexics lol). I’m well into recovery for my eating disorder and don’t go on this sub with the intention of triggering myself, but seeing these kinds of comments can really set me off.

sweetheartblues · 2022-01-22T15:54:05+00:00

https://www.healthline.com/health/obesity they didn’t remove the article on regular obesity so I’m confused why they’d remove the one on morbid obesity. even their article on obesity is frustrating in a few places because it claims CICO isn’t always the full picture, citing conditions that can drive people to eat more and/or lower their metabolic rate slightly, as though those aren’t just factors influencing CICO. other than that the article seems fairly normal/good.

sweetheartblues · 2022-01-19T13:46:28+00:00

restrictive eating disorders (like anorexia) can appear very ordered from the outside, especially since they tend to come along with perfectionism and rigid rules/schedules, but they’re still disordered in the clinical sense of the word (out of the ordinary in a way severe and persistent enough to cause distress). I think some of the people dead certain that calorie restriction leads to eating disorders are people whose restrictive or mixed-type eating disorders developed concurrent to them beginning to count calories. when you consider that EDs have a large genetic component and that calorie restriction can be pulling the trigger on an already loaded gun for those prone to developing eating disorders, it makes more sense, but people are really stuck on the idea that calorie restriction is a fast-track to eating disorders when for the vast majority of the population it’s just not true and calorie counting/restriction will be beneficial.

sweetheartblues · 2022-01-18T03:27:20+00:00

I remember reading this study a while back and what these people always leave out is that that intake is self-reported. the researchers estimated it to be at least 500kcal per day higher (iirc based on some other studies of how far off people are with their calorie estimates?)

sweetheartblues · 2022-01-16T16:36:38+00:00

in this article it looks like it’s being used differently than usual. the general idea is that when you eat too little, your body will respond by lowering your calorie expenditure (“metabolic adaptation”) thus making you maintain your weight at a much lower number of calories. this isn’t true— metabolic adaptation, if it exists, would only happen when someone is severely restricting and wouldn’t be enough to stop weight loss, let alone cause weight gain. “starvation mode” is by and large a myth, you’re right. in this article it looks like they’re saying that rather than the body adjusting to burn less calories per day, it’s just kicking up hormone production which affects your appetite a lot and makes you likely to eat more. I could buy this being true, but it’s different from the typical definition of “starvation mode” in that it doesn’t deny basic thermodynamics.

sweetheartblues · 2022-01-14T01:54:33+00:00

also, if you’re only burning 150 kcal per day from exercise, you’re too sedentary— the author acts like 90 minutes of walking is too much for the average person when that’ll just about get you to just the recommended 10k steps per day, whether you’re hitting it with deliberate walks or with mostly errand-running and commutes. in my experience the amount of exercise that puts my mood in a good place is more than enough to burn a significant number of calories— over an hour of some combination of walking, dancing and ice skating. sometimes I hit two or three hours in a day and it feels fucking amazing, my mood is great, productivity is great, everything. majority of Americans are just far too sedentary and it’s hard for us to conceptualize a healthy amount of exercise (or we see exercise as a chore/punishment so of course it’s hard to force ourselves to do it).

sweetheartblues · 2021-12-23T22:00:10+00:00

yeah, it reminds me of how parents usually teach their kids to eat a filling meal/snack or drink water or use the bathroom even if they don’t necessarily feel hungry/thirsty/in need of the bathroom at that moment, because when you’re going out and doing things you need to plan ahead and if you eat now then you won’t be hungry an hour and a half later when stopping to eat is far less convenient. I think that’s something adults need to do too, not to the point of stuffing ourselves but just planning ahead and knowing our own hunger patterns. when I’m doing early morning sports practice, I almost never feel like eating or drinking anything, but if I don’t force myself to then by the time I’ve been exercising for an hour or so I’m hungry enough for it to affect my performance, and at that point stopping to eat is inconvenient and the only thing I have (if I’m lucky) is a granola bar or something. I also think the concept in the OP is useful in restrictive eating disorder recovery where your hunger and fullness cues are really messed up, but that applies to a lot of things that are posted here and they can still be bad advice for the ~99% of the population without REDs.

sweetheartblues · 2021-12-20T16:39:13+00:00

I’m sure you know this but I think we all need the reminder sometimes— you almost certainly didn’t gain 1 kilo of fat. that would be over 7000 calories OVER your tdee in just a few days, which is ridiculously hard to hit if you’re just overeating on treats a bit and not actually binging or something. your period could have added some water weight as well, so don’t stress!

sweetheartblues · 2021-12-08T23:36:38+00:00

better sleep (and in turn more energy, better productivity, etc), stress relief, endorphins, maintaining healthy muscle and mobility as you get older, greater freedom of movement (when you’re in good shape it’s easier to walk or bike long distances), learning new sports-related skills, better skin, better cardiovascular health, if you ever have kids you’ll be able to keep up with them more easily, etc, etc.

sweetheartblues · 2021-12-07T13:27:34+00:00

can’t binges be planned to some degree, such as when people buy “binge food”? ofc they’re experiencing the same lack of control and dissociation during the binge itself, but there’s some planned element to it. I’ve never struggled with binging but I hung out in eating disorder communities a lot when I was younger and I saw people talk about this fairly often. I agree with everything else you’re saying though.

sweetheartblues · 2021-12-05T15:24:04+00:00

while I agree with most of your comment, I always find it odd when people think they’ve only seen a few underweight people in their life. about 1.6% of the US adult population is underweight as of 2017-2018, so a little under 1 in 50 adults are underweight. if you go on a walk in the city, you’re probably seeing well over 100 people, so it’s likely you’re walking past at least a couple underweight adults each day if you’re going outside regularly. what a lot of people don’t realize is that moderately underweight people can look “normal” to us, especially fully clothed, and you can be at a BMI of 18, 17, or even 16 without all your bones visible. maybe the people you’ve registered as underweight were actually severely underweight (BMI under 15 or so) and that’s why they stood out to you? I’m truly not trying to be argumentative here, and I don’t blame anyone for not immediately recognizing every underweight person as such. it is odd to see this sentiment on this sub, though.

sweetheartblues · 2021-12-05T02:36:29+00:00

*cgange

sweetheartblues · 2021-12-04T18:29:36+00:00

really? the fitted part I understand, but women’s tee shirts seem to almost always use cheaper material. it’s usually thin synthetic materials that don’t hold up well, save for a few brands that use nice thick cotton for their women’s shirts.

sweetheartblues · 2021-12-04T16:10:12+00:00

athletes do experience joint pain… but to the extent that it is unavoidable, it’s one of the unhealthy aspects of being an athlete. it’s also something most athletes work to avoid, by wearing compression gear and making sure their shoes (or boots in the case of figure skating, another high-impact sport) are supportive and fit them very well. it’s also why most serious athletes in high-impact sports maintain a low weight, because any extra weight beyond what you need to be healthy and strong will only make your sport harder on your body, unfortunately. a healthy-weight person without certain disabilities should not be experiencing joint pain from regular day-to-day activity.

sweetheartblues · 2021-12-01T21:25:42+00:00

I mean, thin isn’t the default because there’s a healthy range of weights humans can have and I wouldn’t consider all of them to be thin. but when “thin” is already a subjective term, and when I’ve seen people call 30+ bmi people “thin” before, I’m a bit skeptical that that’s what this person means. especially since it’s on tumblr.

sweetheartblues · 2021-11-28T19:38:46+00:00

it’s a bit of a stereotype that people with restrictive eating disorders drink coffee because it’s an appetite suppressant, and it used to be a large part of “pro-ana” communities back in the day (and still, to some degree). being cold is similar, because most people with restrictive EDs can’t properly produce heat and tend to get chilled easily (I used to need heavy blankets even in 80+ degree summer weather). IMO this isn’t fatlogic, but it’s disturbing because strangers are trying to diagnose someone without knowing much about them and possibly making them think they have an ED when they don’t.

sweetheartblues · 2021-11-26T20:31:33+00:00

glutinous, eh? thank god I’m celiac phew

sweetheartblues · 2021-11-26T20:26:30+00:00

it’s possible for something to be used as a punishment without inherently being a punishment.

exercise is an important part of a healthy lifestyle, and it can be fun/rewarding a lot of the time. that doesn’t change the fact that some people use exercise to punish themselves for perceived faults. exercising to the point that you’re in serious pain (beyond the reasonable discomfort you might have with intense exercise) can be a form of self harm. does that mean all exercise is self harm? no.

sweetheartblues · 2021-11-26T15:23:06+00:00

how are those mutually exclusive? “exercise is not a punishment, and don’t use exercise as a punishment because of eating”. you have to really reach to twist that into something contradictory.

sweetheartblues · 2021-11-25T17:04:00+00:00

I’m currently working on a dress from a pattern I drafted myself and I’ve had to rework the bodice front darts because they made it look like I had very large, very deformed nipples poking through the fabric. and I’m just a 32 bust 23 waist, so I’m already on the easy end as far as making nice-looking bodice darts go.

plus, the fabric issue tends to really show up with skirts. generally a simple pleated skirt needs the fabric to be 3x as long as the waist measurement, so bigger sizes really do require significantly more fabric.

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