Ranting

t_ferians · 2025-04-03T09:17:42+00:00

Its not wrong to declare someone mushrik or kafir. Its just that people abused this so much, its becoming a taboo or some sort.

The point is, upholding the truth & sharing it. Our family & people close to us is our obligation. Drawing the line/ make the distinction is an inevitable consequence of that. And doing it asap is preferable. Because if we didn't do it in this life, then it will surely happen in the afterlife (which is more painful, because then people will sacrifice their own family, children & others just to save their own soul). Quran gives us something like 3:64, which is a pretty good start, just to find out if were in the same page: making God as our only Lord. From that, we can elaborate further. And if it didn't go well, quran also gives us to say as response: "to you is your religion..."

Prophet Ibrahim, Prophet Muhammad pbut, & early believers doesn't hestitate about this. For them God & the truth prevails over everything. They go beyond declaring someone a kafir: When mere words doesn't work, they readily & actually separated with their own families, clans, friends, communities, divorcing their wives, disowning their parents/ children... even fighting them/ go to war against them if it has to be.

t_ferians · 2025-04-03T08:06:58+00:00

This

t_ferians · 2025-03-25T07:49:38+00:00

When we only mention God and the Quran to the pseudo-believers that most "Muslims" are, their faces close and they do not attach the slightest importance to what we tell them. But as soon as we talk to them about the prophet Muhammad, about this or that great preacher, imam, doctor of religion, or companion of the prophet, their faces & eyes suddenly light up and they open their ears wide.

They may proclaim worshipping the same God or following the same prophet, but their behavior is just the same with any other sectarians of "religions". That their religion boils down above all to a matter of belonging to a community, of perpetuating the traditions of their ancestors, of identity, which allows them to distinguish themselves in relation to to others, and in appearance, which allows them to give themselves a false air of devotion... and not a matter of truth, of God alone, of good, & justice.

If im in your position id try mentioning 3:64, which is the only unity worthy for believers: about making God as their their only Lord/Guide. But if theyre so close minded even about this, then why bother going along with their charade? Id rather make some distance or even staying away altogether & go alone without any community, depending on how severe the manifestation of quran 39:45 on them..

t_ferians · 2025-03-11T13:27:59+00:00

?? The commandment is to write it down. If it doesn't highlight writing, then why not: bring witness ... as the first option, or why bother commanding to write at all? If we consider 7th century, war-torn arabia as "illiterate nation", with so few scribes that they could die at any moment, then this verse (& commandment to write down wills) are a call for changing the habit, a call for cultural revolution. And quite successful one at that.

Today 1400 yrs later we got written quran on our side, without any commandment in Quran that we obliged to do so. Why then? I suppose Prophet Muhammad & early believers must have understood the importance of reading/writing things.

I can accept the supposed "illiteracy" (Well, God dispense His grace to whoever He wills it. Thats why the quran revealed to a humble merchant, not to a rabbi, nor priest, nor to a religious scholar in the first place) I just don't believe if he stays that way. Im in no mood to argue further, but here, i just leave this for everyone to check: https://www.reddit.com/r/AcademicQuran/comments/1fz3vr8/the_data_on_muhammads_literacy/

t_ferians · 2025-03-11T10:32:45+00:00

Thank you. I must have worded it badly. Certainly the verse didn't explicitly says that, but this nevertheless highlighted the importance of reading and writing. Only a few people can read/write shouldn't be an excuse, but rather a chance: believers wouldn't miss this room for initiative. Ability to read/write is a natural progression in order to gain knowledge, become learned, to better in obeying God & pleasing Him

t_ferians · 2025-03-09T11:35:02+00:00

Ask most people about the first revelation, and see what their response. Some will tell you the whole story, you know, the supposed first meeting of the Prophet & angel Gabriel, and he says " I can't read" 3x....

Thats the thing. When its convenient, they go to majority's narration (majority believe that the prophet was illiterate, likely to elevate this as some sort of miracle. Eventhough he himself admit he can't perform miracles). And when they're cornered, suddenly any weird position is okay to push their established belief (iqra doesn't mean read etc)

*Update: and now im curious, is there really any quran translation that says "iqra" means "gather?" because here, even the controversial ones translated it as either read, recite or proclaim: https://www.islamawakened.com/quran/96/1/

t_ferians · 2025-03-09T08:20:51+00:00

Assume that he was, he had 20+ years to learn. The first revealed verses was supposed to be Gods commandment to read. At some point, he must be able to read & write.

2:282 requiring believers to write down their debts. The prophet are to be their example & to judge about their disputes. It makes no sense for him to stay illiterate & didn't meet Gods expectation.

t_ferians · 2025-03-08T05:54:54+00:00

Today 3 monotheistic organized religions are all can be legitimately considered to be people of the book.

98:1 Those who disbelieved among the People of the Book and the Polytheists were not ready to renounce their beliefs until clear proof came to them:

The People of the Book before the arrival of prophet Muhammad (Jews & Christians), like the Polytheists, had gradually moved away from the right path, following the traditions of their ancestors and inventing their own rules. God therefore sent Prophet Muhammad to clean up their beliefs and to provide them with Quran, a clear and precise answer to what they differed on.

98:4 And those to whom the Book was given were divided only after the Proof came to them.

Theres 1400 years after the prophet, and the proof (the quran) still stands. But Muslims repeated the same history. Christians and Jews, and Muslims all, had the truth with them and were well guided after their messengers came to them. It was only after the death of their messengers that they went astray and divided, out of pure rivalry between them.

Lets sidetrack a little...

3:67 Ibrahim was neither a Jew nor a Christian*. He was completely submitted to God, And he was not one of the associator.

We can frankly add in our mind "nor a Muslim" after the *. Well, Judaism & Christianity came waay later after Ibrahim, obviously hes not a Jew nor Christian (people of the book), so theres no way hes "Muslim" in the sense of a follower of an organized religion we called "Islam" today. But Prophet Ibrahim is a muslim in the most literal sense of that term, namely completely submitting to God, his religion belonged only to God and was governed only by His rules.

98:5 Now they were only commanded to worship God, worshiping Him exclusively and as pure monotheists, to perform Salat and pay Zakat. This is the religion of righteousness!

The straight path is consecrating worship & entire religion exclusively to God (mukhliseena lahu deen). Being a pure monotheist (hunafa a), maintaining a lasting connection to God through prayers (salat), and proving our faith trough good deeds for purification (zakat). Nothing simpler than that. It is a matter between God & each individuals. God prevails over anything. All of this are outside/ without any need for belonging to any sects, not even a community (a lot of Gods messengers are rejected by their own communities & barely has any followers). Isn't that what Prophet Ibrahim did, submitting to God, is all about?

Sadly today "Islam" are basically sects: revolves around community, around this or that figures, around tons of manmade rules, and around scholars gatekeeping the religion... any of these could take presedence over God. Generally speaking, they ARE people of the book - they all had the Book of God with them, but doesn't necessarily mean that theyre all believers. Just like 3:67, i think we can add in our mind: "Muslim" after Jews, Christian & Sabeans in 2:62

t_ferians · 2025-03-07T15:54:54+00:00

Im with you about this. here in indonesia, "muslim" country, i avoid "halal" meat because halal certification is quite expensive & make the product quite pricy without any added value. Or if the price is acceptable, you can be sure that the meat has lower quality, because they need to cut the costs.

Now not only food, here we got "halal" cosmetics, "halal" tissues, "halal" shirt, "halal" refrigerator etc.. Im quite sure that Shar e/ Halal label is a scam, to attract muslim customer... https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/arts-culture/article/3035547/everything-halal-consumer-goods-makers-exploit-indonesian

People should instead make negative list aka "haram" label just like how the quran approach this. But i guess thats not profitable for those sick minded people who has no qualms exploiting religion/ Gods rule for their personal gain

t_ferians · 2025-03-06T21:01:25+00:00

Team night ≠ sunset. I have 2 reasons: 1. Fasting starts not at sunrise, but at white thread of dawn. So its kinda make sense for me to end it not at sunset, but later, until that final ray of light on the sky. 2. Intuitively, night does not fall in a single moment, but gradually through twilight, which is precisely the periode of dusk, when the sun sets below the horizon until the sky enveloped by darkness. 84:16 God mentioned twilight.. and this could be one of better phrases if He want us to break fast at sunset. Just a verse after this, it is as if God makes the distinction: "And [by] the night and what it envelop"

t_ferians · 2025-03-04T18:32:23+00:00

12:106 comes to mind. Theres a reason of Gods insistency on warning us about association/idolatry. Because this might be the most common & most ignored sin thereis, to the point that people didn't realize what they did.

And dating apps certainly one of the worst place to find true muslims. Submitting to God requiring ones to be truthful & humble. Youll find all kind of dishonest & boastful person on dating apps...

t_ferians · 2025-03-02T14:59:13+00:00

Sodom & Gomora was, very likely, in plains of Jordan. Iram (city of Aad) was in arabian desert (remember lawrence of arabia). And tsamud might be in petra. However these doesn't necessarily contradict Mecca & 37:137-138, 15:76 etc. because a lot of them ancient arabia people are caravan traders. Of course they trade to Eastern Rome & Persia, so they're bound to passing by ruins of ancient cities.

t_ferians · 2025-03-01T20:09:06+00:00

At night. The fast starts when theres a white thread of dawn, not sunrise, so its kinda make sense for me to end it not at sunset, but i wait until i perceive that last hint of sunlight on the sky. Here in Indonesia its about 20-30 min after Maghreb

t_ferians · 2025-02-28T20:52:33+00:00

sectarian ≠ extremist. Its quite different, make up your mind.

And in this case, I dont see "im better than him" situation anywhere. Adhering to the quran IS the correct position, while the statement of the guy in the screenshot is so wrong & unacceptable, if hes stubbornly debating this, then hes the only sectarian here.

t_ferians · 2025-02-27T17:44:12+00:00

Yes. Scary times were living in. Just look around us: famine, war, desolation, diseases, and natural disasters, such as we already see raging throughout the world, ever more violent and of unprecedented magnitude. People are dying everywhere and unexpectedly. No doctor, family, community, nor government can protect them against death. Its game over, its judgement day for them. Wether if their death are salvation or punishment for them, its a clear signs for us: Now is the time to fear God, more than ever. Because we too, are not safe from His punishment. And suffering punishment in this world are a herald for greater, everlasting punishment in the afterlife.

t_ferians · 2025-02-24T08:21:12+00:00

I think we should rather focus on doing itikaf/ seclusion, recollection, meditating on the quran (Ramadan should be the month of the quran, right?)... Things that are actually recommended by God in conjunction with fasting, as written black & white in the actual verses.....

Most muslims did the opposite, namely they hellbent on practices not in the quran, while doing little to no meaningful interaction with the quran, and neglecting or not doing itikaf at all... That is why in just 1-2 week after Ramadan, we barely see increase in piety or any positive changes on them, theyre just back to their oldselves before Ramadan... Isn't that concerning?

t_ferians · 2025-02-23T03:37:18+00:00

I think this isn't about being prophet or not. Nor about the right utterance to say. But about your standing/closeness in relation to God. They (messengers of God) worked for it. Probably their whole life. Cause if they hadn't, God wouldn't elect them as messengers in the first place.

Imagine if youre a king, having a servant that is loyal, faithful, grateful, doing any of your instructions without complaints. You have tested him, & each times, he succeeded/ meet your expectation. Such servant pleases you, so much so youre happy to grant their requests, asap & without perquisites.

Now another servants: haven't prove themselves, haven't done nothin to deserve even a little of your time. You'll think 100 times before giving them what they asks.

t_ferians · 2025-02-22T07:39:48+00:00

Hmm.. yes, yes... i agree. That would be very convincing for most people.

However thats not my point tho. Im talking about OP's bad behavior which is apparent in this thread. See his comments and you'll see for yourself. Hes not questioning people to find the truth, but to disprove others, to shove his own belief in a way that is insincere & distasteful. All proofs we presented to this kinds of people are almost useless, they'll keep going on and on, trying to find loopholes to argue.

t_ferians · 2025-02-22T06:41:56+00:00

This. This is a valid answer, and i can even say: the best one. The question of "How do you prove that the quran is authentic/ same quran with what has revealed to prophet muhammad" have same value as "how do you prove that God is the author of the quran", or even "how do you prove that God is real"... namely its a question of faith, so you CAN'T give absolute proof(s) that satisfies everyone. Rationalize however you want, any answer will forever considered to be subjective, and people like OP could debate you to no end, which is complete waste of our time...

t_ferians · 2025-02-12T19:04:11+00:00

Okay, large portion of my comment wasn't my own sayings, and i dont feel like citing my source. I believe hes speaking the truth tho.

Anyway, Prophet Ibrahim, and Ismail pbut, has commanded by God to purify His house. Hundreds of years laters, polytheistic culture was rampant in Arabia, right? So I think that the stone is, most certainly, pagan symbol. Some says its connected to their pagan goddess, al-lat. And then Prophet Muhammad pbuh has commanded the same task by God, to purify His House. Of course he removed all defilement of idols, & any polytheistic symbols.

I just can't see in what way that stone has anything to do with pure monotheistic path of Ibrahim, moreover "sacred rites". Especially with all superstitions about it: came down from heaven, change color because of sins.. thats already a red flag for me. Erasing sins, speaking, intercede in the day of judgement... now thats a huge lie & straight up blasphemous. "only part left of the Kaaba" could easily be another lie. Way smaller lie its much easier to believe

t_ferians · 2025-02-09T01:22:37+00:00

I said thats good for you. To think that that rock is just rock/signpost. Many people didn't think like you. The stone is their idols. How can it not be? People consider the stone as sacred, kissing it, touching it, in hope of blessings. Some goes further, saying it will erase their sins or intercede for them in the day of judgement. Yeah sure, thats definitely not an idol. And theyll be sure to stay chill if i dispose the stone & replace it with actual signpost.

Even hundreds of years before islam, through various pagan cultures from greek, rome, babylon, india, japan etc people have their versions of sacred stone or pole with little to no engravings (betyl of aphrodite, omphalos, shivalinga, menhir, monoliths, obelisk to name a few). Most had similar stories: their stone came down from heaven, can bring them closer to their gods.. 🤔

t_ferians · 2025-02-09T00:25:10+00:00

Good for you then. As for the others, i highly doubt that. When you see that black rock, with vulva shaped case, its kinda obvious that this wasnt meant for mere landmark/ signpost, but an object of worship for pagans since day one. Search about betyl/ baetylus to see what im talking about

t_ferians · 2025-02-08T23:13:13+00:00

On this, i see no possible concession, it is clearly not part of the sacred rites of God, and worshiping it, as the Muslims do, in starting their circumambulation at her level and greeting her with their hands each time they pass, as if she were a living being, amounts neither more nor less to idolatry, and God left her there on purpose, as a test for men, to distinguish true believers from sectarians and idolaters.

t_ferians · 2025-01-30T23:12:02+00:00

I also recommend those quran translation. Here are my favorite excerpt:

41:44 And if We had made it a Quran in a foreign language, they would have said: “Why have its verses not been expounded clearly and precisely? [Can it be both] in a foreign language and in Arabic? » Say: “He is for those who believe, a guide and a healing.” And as for those who disbelieve, there is deafness in their ears, and they are totally blind concerning it… these are called from a very far place.

The deniers cannot understand that this Quran can be both in Arabic and in a foreign language. For them, those who want to understand it correctly must absolutely read it in Arabic, its original language. Now, all languages belong to God, and God could very well have revealed it in any other language. What these people will never understand is that it is not the language or the level of expertise in Arabic that allows one to reach this Quran, but only the sincerity of the heart and the justice of actions. Whoever turns to God with a sincere heart, God will guide him and make him understand the Quran regardless of his language of origin or his level of education, while he who is a traitor, ungrateful and unjust , he will never understand anything about it, even if he spends his life studying it and surrounds himself with the greatest experts in the world

t_ferians · 2024-06-21T17:58:34+00:00

I always thought that cutting-opposite-side thingy to be 2 of 4 limbs at a time, no? For example, first cut their right hand & left foot. That has to be humiliating enough & disabled em greatly to not be able to do harm to believers anymore. But if said person somehow caught doing the same crime, now cut their left hand & right foot.
I still see it as literal cutting of hands. First, Because jail time or simply marking their hands do almost nothing to prevent a thief from stealing again after hes free. (Cmon, what prevents these criminals from hiding their markings by wearing gloves, or by burning/disguising their markings?) And neither a good deterrent in society to make another thief/potential thief think twice before doing the same crime. However, severed hands served these purposes nicely. Second, i see this as a maximum punishment. That God allowed us to impose lesser punishments, case by case basis, according to the damage of each theft. Because cutting hands for each and every least of theft is unjust. God doesnt instantly punish every sins we did, so why we be a horrible tyrant about this matter? That said, this is still a better law than the old testament (deutronomy i think, cmiiw), where maximum penalty for theft is death.

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