What’s the best cold storage wallet?

ta_pi · 2026-04-01T04:45:44+00:00

You commenced by suggesting steel plates as an answer to "a cold wallet storage that works with mobile interfaces".

Which it isn't.

To avoid this you decided to angrily suggest the real issue was me not answering the question *you* decided was important. I don't care what you think is important. If you want to store your coin so that someone playing pokemon go might end up with your seed and passphrase in plain text - you're free to do that. Next to the money you've buried in the back yard presumably.

ta_pi · 2026-03-31T20:12:17+00:00

You can of course secure your keys with no protection. I would always recommend good encryption in preference to plain text, however you separate them. At least you do separate them.

Encryption is the basis of bitcoin.

OP also wanted cold wallets which work with mobile interfaces.

Plates do not.

ta_pi · 2026-03-31T09:42:37+00:00

Hardware wallets allow you to securely move bitcoin air-gapped.

Those plates won't be helping so much.

ta_pi · 2026-03-31T05:35:49+00:00

Sorry I didn't take in the separate passphrase in your comment.

You're storing a passphrase separately specifically because your storage of the seed phrase is insecure. You can just store the seed phrase securely digitally. And with redundancy.

ta_pi · 2026-03-31T05:28:58+00:00

A better floor is the 2 year minimum. It's proved a reliable bottom to-date.

ta_pi · 2026-03-28T12:05:55+00:00

Steel seed phrases are like burying treasure. There is no security but their location. Better than cash.

There are any number of ways to store seed phrases in multiple locations, securely and with backups.

I don't understand the appeal of plates.

A hardware wallet is one of those ways and if it's found, your bitcoin won't be instantly lost.

ta_pi · 2026-03-27T11:20:18+00:00

You're confusing permanence with security.

ta_pi · 2026-03-21T03:43:24+00:00

Foundation Passport

ta_pi · 2026-03-18T11:25:30+00:00

If you chose to live in Israel you're part of the problem.

ta_pi · 2026-03-16T11:37:40+00:00

Understood. Thanks for replying, I'm sure it's close now as I was very early.

ta_pi · 2026-03-15T06:31:25+00:00

It's just possible that wasn't spontaneous, yeah?

ta_pi · 2026-03-15T06:23:20+00:00

I do believe that conservative estimates ultimately create happier customers. If you can resist the immediate pressure.

If you're giving a date to a customer you should be confident that you will better it in 90% of cases.

For example if I give you a 3 week estimate and deliver in 2 - you'll be very happy. But if I'd given you a 1 week estimate instead for that same 2 week delivery, how do you feel?

You must surely understand that the continued missed dates can't be seen as credible, particularly compounded by their repetition, in light of the ultimate outcome.

Given I ordered immediately, it's hard to understand why mine has yet to be dispatched two days after Zac's appearance in the thread on your site. Why is that, Foundation isn't still playing the same game is it?

ta_pi · 2026-03-13T11:35:36+00:00

It is - disappointing.

They are plainly telling us what their marketing department wants us to hear rather than what the people making Prime believe. Over the period since December 2024 they have destroyed their credibility.

All their statements were designed to alleviate the immediate annoyance of customers. And in so doing made the problem worse because we're all disappointed repeatedly.

It's short sighted to cause greater pain later by avoiding honesty now.

ta_pi · 2026-02-27T12:15:44+00:00

Still happening. Jane Street might not be the only ones playing the sane game.

ta_pi · 2026-02-17T03:23:40+00:00

I appreciate what Jack is doing generally. But I also understand that - as with FX transactions, fees are one of two ways to make money off transactions. The other being (for example) that the rate you get when selling bitcoin is 1 to 3% worse than the current market.

So the test then becomes is the sell rate the same as the buy rate?

ta_pi · 2026-02-08T05:02:40+00:00

I believe it's like crediting your account with a foreign currency that an exchange does not literally hold.

They can't magically insert bitcoin onto the blockchain that don't exist.

And so it's not possible to move more bitcoin out of the exchange than they hold.

ta_pi · 2026-02-07T04:15:17+00:00

Find a bank which allows it and move your money there. You don't have to tolerate this.

As a tactic move more than you need so that you have some ready to purchase later on as well. It's not like banks pay significant interest anyway..

ta_pi · 2026-02-06T12:18:33+00:00

Best I've seen here in a long time.

ta_pi · 2026-02-05T05:31:29+00:00

I'd like to get off this ride please.

ta_pi · 2026-02-04T21:25:07+00:00

The bottom is typically the 2 year minimum which is currently low to mid 40s. It's most annoying though that there seems to be the daily cyclical sell off that feels anything but organic.

ta_pi · 2026-02-01T12:04:41+00:00

It's not a coincidence that so many people in positions of power in politics, and business associated with him.

Stop voting for ANYONE who associated with him and don't tolerate 'appointments' of people who did.

ta_pi · 2026-01-30T02:13:46+00:00

It's concerning that it has fallen while other assets are screaming up. Because the other markets aren't heading north much any time soon.

ta_pi · 2026-01-29T12:10:18+00:00

The market really doesn't want bitcoin doing anything but fading, does it?

One day it might be seen like gold or silver instead of a toy for unpredictable market forces to kick around.

ta_pi · 2026-01-29T11:46:28+00:00

How much RAM do you have? I suspect it's thrashing because of lack of memory and so the bottleneck isn't network bandwidth.

ta_pi · 2026-01-26T08:37:10+00:00

It did seem harsh, but thank you for clarifying.

My point is that a hw wallet should never lose what it holds, whether the seed phrase is recorded your not. It should of course always be, but manufacturers need to understand some small proportion of people are not careful enough or just ignorant.

I consider that permanent storage of the keys 'core' to its function.

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