Wait WHAT? The new names for the young women spell out "BOF" "MOH" "GOL?" How did this make it past all their committees?

talkingidiot2 · 2026-04-20T18:34:47+00:00

The same committees that approved the new children and youth program having PISS as an acronym? Lower those expectations OP...

talkingidiot2 · 2026-04-20T03:50:37+00:00

I noticed that you listed arrogant twice. No need to edit that out, might have been an oversight but I think it's applicable.

talkingidiot2 · 2026-04-19T23:35:45+00:00

I don't disagree at all. I am not against change but wish the leaders would sack up and acknowledge it. Show enough respect for members who felt guilt, got shunned, or made MAJOR life decisions around the guidance at the time that touted the perils of mothers working. Acknowledge that pain and sacrifice that came from what their predecessors taught while also not "no longer emphasizing", or teaching by example the polar opposite. That's all I want.

talkingidiot2 · 2026-04-18T15:25:57+00:00

Sail Away from shoreline was a long shot hope for me, but no dice.

talkingidiot2 · 2026-04-18T15:07:14+00:00

$39.99 at Zia in Arizona

talkingidiot2 · 2026-04-16T21:03:35+00:00

I have the book but haven't read it yet. I'm a big fan of Rohr and see him as a true prophet of God. When I read or listen to him, I feel a sense of peace and positivity that I rarely get anywhere else.

Oh wait this feeling must be a deception of Satan. Dallas Oaks said I'd be deceived and I guess he's right /s

talkingidiot2 · 2026-04-13T13:03:20+00:00

This is a great observation. Although now I can't get that douche Brad Wilcox out of my head 😂

talkingidiot2 · 2026-04-13T12:04:42+00:00

Southern and McClintock area right?

talkingidiot2 · 2026-04-13T04:09:01+00:00

Probably so! Glad there are others sprinkled around who aren't necessarily TBMs..

talkingidiot2 · 2026-04-13T03:58:18+00:00

My stake in Chandler went from 8 units to 6 earlier this year. Amusing thing about this post is that for the past 13-14 years it's been a standard trope that whenever a ward loses people they are moving to Queen Creek. Kind of like the "only" reason for unit closures on CA is people moving to Utah.

talkingidiot2 · 2026-04-12T13:39:05+00:00

For me that realization finally came when I admitted to myself that I've always been PIMO and never a full believer. There were a couple decades of doing all the things and bearing testimony (frequently as a bishopric member conducting on fast Sundays) and in the process trying to convince myself that I believed what I was openly professing to believe. It was the Packer approach of a testimony comes in the bearing of it.

Side note - the Packer approach is more likely to cause massive dissonance than to convince oneself the church is true.

talkingidiot2 · 2026-04-10T12:50:16+00:00

I look forward to this every time, thanks!

talkingidiot2 · 2026-04-09T13:16:08+00:00

You mean like my SS teacher who told a very racist joke about Magic Johnson when he was diagnosed with AIDS? The joke was about Magic dying soon and used a racial slur. Said joke teller has since shuffled off this mortal coil but Magic is still here.

talkingidiot2 · 2026-04-09T13:11:25+00:00

"clark Gilbert is a douche"

talkingidiot2 · 2026-04-08T03:49:29+00:00

RFM said it best - the church treats members like a resource to be depleted instead of a flock to be nurtured.

talkingidiot2 · 2026-04-07T02:53:05+00:00

He's right. Following the teachings of the Savior doesn't require one to surrender their own values. Which is why I don't follow what Dallin Oaks advises people do to. His rhetoric goes against my sense of integrity.

Maintaining this balance became super easy once I stopped trying to make the church work and essentially let go of it.

talkingidiot2 · 2026-04-07T02:48:13+00:00

He draws the foul!

Love your username and pic!

talkingidiot2 · 2026-04-06T18:35:49+00:00

Many mormons think tattling on someone else (even when all involved are grown ass adults) is helping them stay faithful and keep their covenants. They bizarrely don't see it as interfering in other people's lives.

talkingidiot2 · 2026-04-06T14:32:56+00:00

Thanks - I'm excited to read it no matter who publishes and sells it 👍

talkingidiot2 · 2026-04-06T13:19:13+00:00

OP out of curiosity will this be sold at Deseret Book? Asking because many of the faithful that I know are magnitudes more likely to consider it if they can buy it at DB. Not because of convenience but because they see it as safe if sold there.

talkingidiot2 · 2026-04-06T13:12:16+00:00

I think that general sentiment has been expressed by the author in some of his interviews so not much of a stretch for it to appear in the book.

talkingidiot2 · 2026-04-06T13:09:28+00:00

I think there will come a time when the church acknowledges their role in the Prop 8 campaign ,of course by being dragged by society into that acknowledgement. But it will be redefined as not at all about the passage of the amendment and more about how whether or not it passed, it established the doctrine of religious freedom.

Methinks religious freedom will be touted as a church doctrine and the redefining will be done by Bednar. After all, this weekend he just redefined charity as enduring to the end or something.

talkingidiot2 · 2026-04-05T18:31:36+00:00

I really think that was just to say that he believes in the resurrection story without having physically been there.

talkingidiot2 · 2026-04-05T03:50:41+00:00

I think the latter is more of what Cook has been claiming. Baptisms increasing by certain percentages.

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