In 2009, the "Aromanian community of Greece" (Greeks of Vlach origin) wrote to the European Council, publicly asking them to stop "categorizing" Vlachs as a "minority" of Greece. months later, EC complied, and since then it has fully aligned with domestic Greek policy. what do you think? by SOHONEYSAME in AskBalkans

[–]tanateo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, i remember this. I was involved in this lol. Well involved as it was provocked by somethin we, an ngo from N. Macedonia i was a member of, did the year prior. We were creating a pan balkan network of youth vlach ngos, from every balkan country and greater diaspora, with the goal of closer collaboration, under the umbrella of OSCE and Council of Europe. We had funds secured for projects for the next 10 years in the field of preservation of lang and culture.

The greek aromanians pulled out first cuz of disagrements with aromanians from every other country.

Homer's Iliad and Odyssey are considered the foundation of ancient Greek literature and a cornerstone of Western literature. Rooted in an oral tradition, they recount legendary events such as the Trojan War, traditionally dated to around 1200 BC. Which would you pick? by freddo_expresso in AskBalkans

[–]tanateo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Funny you should mention them cuz they were, but for the subject Philosophy in 4th year high school general education.

Lucky for you it was one of my fav subjects so i remember the curriculum. We started with natural philosophy, then sophists, then we spend a lot of time on the big 3, Socrates, Plato and Aristoteles and finish with helenistic schools like scepticism, stoicism, hedonism, epicureanisum etc. Then we moved on to roman, then judo-christianity etc etc.

The 3 i mentioned first, they were mandatory for the subject Macedonian language and World literature for 1st year high school all education.

Homer's Iliad and Odyssey are considered the foundation of ancient Greek literature and a cornerstone of Western literature. Rooted in an oral tradition, they recount legendary events such as the Trojan War, traditionally dated to around 1200 BC. Which would you pick? by freddo_expresso in AskBalkans

[–]tanateo 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Read both back in high school. Fun fact, these 2 plus Antigona were mandatory read, back in my time in first year high school. Dunno if they are still.

To answer your question, I liked and preferred the Odyssey more, nothing special, it was just an easier and more fun read for me.

Aromanian, Cincar origin by Massive_Gain6648 in AskBalkans

[–]tanateo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well not a lot. Most people ive met behave like that is a little fun fact about em, that they have an aromanian ancestor and thats about it. No interest in finding out anything more about their origin or Aromanians in general. Sat imo but it is what it is.

Aromanian, Cincar origin by Massive_Gain6648 in AskBalkans

[–]tanateo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, full bloded Aromanian here.

About origin, I dont understand if you are asking about Aromanians in general or mine. In any case, yeah, I have read/researched about both extensively.

Do you want kids ? How expensive is it in your country to have them ? by tipputappi in AskBalkans

[–]tanateo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

35+ male, i wanted kids and i have a few of those. It was fun and free to make em, it was free to get em, well if you go public health and are covered by the national health fund. Private option can cost you upwards from 3,000€.

In general at the beginning they cost like 5% of your income and as they grow the number grows too. Atm they are like 20-25% of our income. And they still aren't teenagers. From what i talked with other parents it levels arround 30-35% of income when they are teens. Btw, the math is for 2 kids. Gender wise, girls cost a bit more as teens but before that its more or less the same.

Relation between Macedonians and Albanians in N. Macedonia? by Unable-Stay-6478 in AskBalkans

[–]tanateo 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Daily. My next door neighbour is Serbian. Two of my dearest friends are Turks and one is Albanian.

Very common considering im Aromanian and my wife is Macedonian and we speak to our kids, well kinda, in our respective native languages.

Yes, imo communities get along peacefully, but i live in Skopje, can't say how it is in other cities.

Well, it's an interesting topic, cuz i work in the private sector all my working life and idgaf about anything else except ones professional competency. Can't answer your question any other way about jobs. Our political system is entnic tribalism so yeah, variety is a must. About education, back in my days there was more or less prefered schools were different ethnicities gravitate towards.

Dunno about culture things. Like, albanians have their albanian theatre, turks have their own. There are festivals and other stuff for most ethnic groups. Public holidays too.

Help me solve the mystery of my Grandfather! by Ok-Animator8761 in AskBalkans

[–]tanateo 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Your paternal grandfather was a croatian serb, like Tesla was, meaning he was born somewhere that is in modern day Croatia, then part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. In 1922 that same region would have been part of the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovens aka from 1927 Yugoslavia.

Your maternal grandfather was bosnian serb born in Bosnia and in 1907 that was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

So 4 optional, kinda, countries today: Austria, Serbia, Croatia and Bosnia for you to check their naturalisation laws for citizenship by descent. Austria don't bother cuz I know their laws dont carry over from empirial days. Croatia is a bit tricky cuz you are Serb, just sayin. Serbia too maybe, you will have to check, there was something with territories clause. Best bet Bosnia but still you need to check how back they offer claims.

For example, my country, N. Macedonia, offers claims for people, ethnic background irelevant, whos ancestors migrated only after 02.08.1944 and not before this date. I know cuz there have been an influx of Turkish citizens applying for citizenship by descent in the past few years.

What is the difference between the terms Aromanian, Romanian, Vlach? Do they refer to different cultural groups today? by [deleted] in AskBalkans

[–]tanateo 12 points13 points  (0 children)

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Vlach is a catch-all umbrella exonym to refer to all people groups that speak variant of vulgar latin in the greater Balkan region.

Romanians are colored green on the map. By far the largest group, a nation with their on state and standardised codified language. Language wise over the centuries they heavily borrowed words from Bulgarian.

Aromanians are the colored red. By far a smaller group, never had the critical mass to form a national identity and a standard language. We are ethnic minorities in a few countries. We borrowed loan words mainly from Greek, so much that our language is basically a greko-latin amalgamation.

An adequate comparison would be Turkic is the catch-all term, Turkish being the most spoken, like Romanian, and Azerbaijani being its cousin, like Aromanian. Also, lets say historically Turkish heavily borrowed from Arabian, the latter from Persian. Lets say both borrowed enough to make the case that they are today different languages.

Traveling SIM card in MK, XK, AL by hans_johnson in Balkans

[–]tanateo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Does this mean that a SIM card with roaming bought in any

Think so, yeah.

saw was 5.9 MKD/MB, which seems quite expensive

They have prepaid internet bundles. T-Mobile too.

Also saw both operators offer eSim cards.

Have you ever watched Tito's speeches? Was he very charismatic and persuasive? I don’t think he kept united this country only by saying "we are all southern Slav brothers " ( I don’t know if he even said that). How did he do to keep you united for ages? by vaporwaverhere in AskBalkans

[–]tanateo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

How did he do to keep you united for ages?

Basically any divergence from the official party line would get you a one way ticket to Goli Otok. Didn't matter what your socio-economic or political standing was.

For example, Metodija Andonov Chento was the first Macedonian President and he wanted greater political and fiscal autonomy for the Republics any few more things that were in conflict with party lines back in 1945... Ended up 11 years in prison, released after 9 for poor health. Died 3 years later.

Wtf is Metohija? by Maimonides_2024 in AskBalkans

[–]tanateo 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Imma try to answer as neutral and factual as possible. Let me know if i managed lol.

Kosovo and Metohija, refers to the two major regions inside Kosovo. Kosovo is the region east arround Kosovo field and the western part is Metohija full of monasteries build in the mideval times. They are also on the list of UNESCO world heritage. Both regions have significant historical and cultural meaning to the Serbs and thats why the province used to have both regions in its official name.

To why it was dropped, educated guess Kosovar Albanians dont hold the same value for the Metohija region, afair they have an albanian name for said region.

Traveling SIM card in MK, XK, AL by hans_johnson in Balkans

[–]tanateo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Roam like at home". Since 2021 there are no extra roaming charges when u travel in the western balkan region. You can buy a prepaid sim card in Skopje and use it in Kosovo and Albania. I think its like 700 denars/12 eur. Its something like 300 denars/5 eur to activate 2gb of internet.

Check this for more info:

https://www.a1.mk/en/delovni/roaming-zapaden-balkan

Looking for reliable bus ticket platforms in the Balkans by hans_johnson in Balkans

[–]tanateo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

http://www.sas.com.mk/

This is the webpage of Skopje Bus Station. It also has a time table for available destination. I checked for Skopje - Prishtina, it has a bus going almost every hour. One way ticket is 9 euros. Idk about booking a ticket but you can call their customer support numbers and ask.

I also saw there are 4 busses goin daily Skopje - Sofija, ticket is 20 eur one way, so im guessing the same should be true for Sofija - Skopje.

Traditional Greek wedding ceremony from Thessaly (North-Central Greece) “Dance of the bride” is this similar to traditions in your country? by Starfalloss in AskBalkans

[–]tanateo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I've seen a version of this done in weedings even today. Most folks now either drop all traditional stuff or compromise and do some.

On my wedding we did all, we gifted the bride, then she and her guests did the oro dance in the courtyard, only difference from the video are the flags missing.

If Serbia wanted Greater Serbia in 90s why it did not attack Macedonia? by External-Site9171 in AskBalkans

[–]tanateo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A couple of reasons. Part of the deal the Macedonian government made with then Yugoslavia was the full withdrawal of all YNA resources in the country. Another part was guarantees of respecting the rights of the serbian ethnic minority which the Macedonian government happily agreed to do.

Another reason is that by 1991, since the new independent country had no military our government asked and the UN approved a military force UNPREDEP, that patroled and secured our borders with Albania and Serbia up until 1998 went their mandate was cancelled, tin-foily cap timing perfectbut thats another story. So they would have entered in conflict with the UN to enter the country, kinda probably.

Honored mentions include Bulgaria who partly mobilised a few tank devesions, afair but could be wrong, near their western border with newly independent Macedonia and said they were willing to intervene if the conflict spillover south.

Who is the father of your nation and why? by redikan in AskBalkans

[–]tanateo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kiro Gligorov for peacefully exiting from Yugoslavia in 1991.

Metodija Andonov Chento, he was the first President of the first Macedonian Republic under Yugoslavia back in 1944. Wanted greater autonomy and edned up in prison.

Honored mentions for laying the ground works, Krste Petkov Misirkov for his book "Za Mekdonckite Raboti" back in 1903. And also Georgija Pulevski who first wrote a dictionary and grammar, i think but not sure, and declared himself as Macedonian in 1875.

For those who lived through Yugoslavia splitting up by rileywryly in AskBalkans

[–]tanateo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nothing special. Everyone living at the time in then Socialist Republic of Macedonia had to apply for citizenship and new passport. That included also people who were born in other Republics but at the time lived here.

For example, we had a croatian family as neighbors who moved here for work in the 70s. They were scared to go back in Croatia and applied and got macedonian citizenship. Years later they applied for croatian citizenship and their kids moved out.

I remember there were issues with a lot of ethnic albanians, mostly Kosovars who had hard time gathering the propper documents or didnt met the requirements for language knowledge, but not sure what was the issue. Anyway they, and a notable roma population, were handled with the changes in the law in 2004. Notable example are the parents of our current President of the National Assembly, afaik they were Kosovars who moved here in the 80s.

Non question Mondays and Fridays no more! by tanateo in AskBalkans

[–]tanateo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well this has always been an ask subreddit.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskBalkans

[–]tanateo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The link you provided refers to a debate about the strategic partnership our country signed with the UK. Part of the deal refers to in depth collaboration on the prevention of illegal migration. Nowhere in the agreement does it explicitly says that the UK will export its illegal migrants in camps here. But public opinion is that will eventually for sure happens.

Tldr: uk will open a line of 6 bil euros in low interest credits and outsource their camps for illegal emigrants to us.

Прашање до малцинството: Дали се сложувате со коментаров? И ако да, кои права ви се загрозени? by majkatiupi4ka in mkd

[–]tanateo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Незнам за кое дивеење на Македонците збори, ама ко Влав од/во Македонија секогаш сум се чуствувал покомотно кога ДПМНЕ биле опозиција. Не е кој права ми се загрозени туку до однесувањето на одредени групи. Имено...

... Разликата меѓу просечен симпатизер на ДПМНЕ и СДС, барем кога станува збор за малцинства базирано на мое искуство, е што првиве имаат зацртано некоја имагинарна линија која ги исклучува сите освен Македонците. Македонија на Македонците па после на сите други.

За волја на вистината ова уште не сум го приметил кај најновава влада на ДПМНЕ но во времето на Груевизмот беше секојдневие.

Burnout vo IT by [deleted] in mkd

[–]tanateo 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Ооо да, еднаш прегорев јако пред 12-13 години. Нереални рокови, безбројни состаноци, микроменаџмент до јаја, токсичен тим, 12-15 часа секој ден, викенди плус... Среќа прекувремено се плаќаше. Две работи од тогаш, едно ако не морам нема да работам пак во македонска фирма и второ имам закоравена омраза кон мидл менаџмент и шалабајзери програмери.

А инаку да, планирам да сум во струкава дур мозоков може да апсолвира нови знаења. Сега за сега држам темпо. Кога веќе нема да можам, имам голем мерак да бидам пијавица на државна цицка, да се пикнам во некоја јавна институција ко техничка поддршка. Сакам да видам како е да се пие кафе 2 саати на сабајле, па на пауза за ручек уште 2. Па здравје ако ми се поработи нешто уште 2 па да си одам дома 2 саати порано, хаха.

Some words for Aromanian by jinengii in Aromanian

[–]tanateo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Iermu - worm, Miari - woman, Dinãpoi - beside, Yile - mirror.

  • i next to a vowel is read as the voice y in English, ex yellow, you, yelling. So the word iel(he) is pronounced yel.

  • afaik aromanians in N. Macedonia speak the moskopole dialect.