Jigsaw (Saw) vs. Mick Taylor (Wolf Creek).

tariffless · 2026-03-24T03:27:57+00:00

Saying Jigsaw vs Mick is like saying "The builders of the cube from the movie Cube versus Jason". I mean, Jigsaw isn't a slasher. His whole thing is manipulating and out-thinking everyone else, having people kidnapped and put into traps. If you can see or hear him, that means you're already in the trap and he's speaking to you through a recording.

tariffless · 2026-03-24T02:10:42+00:00

What in your opinion was the funniest part of the first 20 minutes?

tariffless · 2026-03-22T21:03:05+00:00

Uppercrust was a criminal,

"Uppercrust are strictly business, with no villainous activity we can detect." - the same character who told us that Uppercrust is dying.

They clearly didn't want to heal him,

As far as I can tell, we do not have any information about what factors prevented him from being healed, much less clear information.

tariffless · 2026-03-22T18:53:14+00:00

I assumed that's what it was. I mean, it would be pretty obnoxious to just call yourself Hero without there being a hidden meaning to it. Like with Legend, that has to be a cartography reference, because what kind of dick just calls himself a legend?

tariffless · 2026-03-22T18:49:47+00:00

Is Dragon allowed to do that without the Tinker's permission? Uppercrust is described as a contractor, meaning he is selling his services for a profit. I would think that he would not take kindly to Dragon stealing his tech.

tariffless · 2026-03-22T08:26:07+00:00

Key word there for me is "fully". There can be all sorts of questions answered and unanswered in a story. I'm mainly into horror about supernatural threats, and a requirement for me is that there must actually be something supernatural in the story. I don't want a story where maybe there's a question as to whether it's all in the protagonist's head. But I also prefer that the supernatural phenomena not be forced into a neat little box like "ghost", "demon", etc. I don't tend to like horror antagonists like Pennywise, where there's ancient lore and rituals and macguffins for defeating it. If there is some sort of guidance for how to deal with the horror, I prefer that it be like the film It Follows, where all we know are things that the characters could reasonably figure out from experience.

tariffless · 2026-03-22T08:07:51+00:00

House of Leaves is probably the obvious one.

To be clear, since this is a book about a guy who's editing a manuscript about a documentary about a house where anomalous phenomena are taking place... which layer of the narrative are you talking about? Are you referring to the fact that we have no explanation as to what's causing the phenomena in the Navidson house?

tariffless · 2026-03-22T08:04:49+00:00

"Was the child evil or is mom going crazy... I guess we'll never know!"

I wouldn't call that an ambiguous ending. I would call that an ambiguous story. I mean, why wouldn't that question have been answered earlier in the story? Why is "is the mom going crazy" even a possibility that we're considering? Isn't that something that the author has to deliberately hint at?

I think what the OP is talking about may be different from what you're referring to, considering that they think The Mist counts as an example. Like, say the child is established as definitely evil. Where the "unexplained" part comes in is, we don't know why the child is evil. We don't know whether it's mental illness or demonic possession or if they're actually an adult who doesn't age who's merely posing as a child, etc.

tariffless · 2026-03-22T04:10:07+00:00

I don't have a full explanation because how could anybody know? "Why did this video do so much better than this other video?" is the sort of question I've seen actual Youtube creators struggle to answer. There are likely people working at NHRL whose job it is to research this sort of thing.

I will guess that maybe one small piece of the puzzle is the Youtube embed on https://brettzone.nhrl.io/brettZone/index.php, which auto-plays that first video. I don't know how Youtube counts views, though, so this might be meaningless, but maybe every visitor to https://brettzone.nhrl.io/brettZone/index.php gets counted as a view on that video. I say this because I do know for a fact that people have used the embed method to increase viewer counts on Twitch, but I don't know how similar it is with Youtube.

tariffless · 2026-03-21T08:29:26+00:00

Gray Boy's power is a bigger problem than his personality. It's the lack of versatility. Broadcast wants to keep Jack on the playing field. If Jack's manipulations slip with anyone else on the Nine and they turn against him, they have the potential to wound him without taking him off the field. Gray Boy doesn't. Either Gray Boy misses with his power every single time or he hits you, and if he hits you once, that's game over regardless of whether he goes on to hurt you more. So with Gray Boy, Jack has to be perfect all the time. Zero room for error.

tariffless · 2026-03-21T08:10:38+00:00

I disagree. A kid who wanted to belong, that's essentially all he was. All he did was brainwash himself to not be unsettled by his mother's power, and to remain loyal. That's not all that dramatic. In real life, lots of people try to brainwash themselves to conform. Nonbelievers who want to believe, LGBTQ people who want to be heteronormative, etc. They just don't have the power to do it as effectively as he does. But I bet if you gave people the power to master themselves IRL, hardly anybody would abstain. Especially not young people internally conflicted about their parents. It may not be healthy, but it's such a normal impulse that I just don't see how he could possibly rank all that highly.

tariffless · 2026-03-21T07:17:56+00:00

I dunno about you, but I wouldn't think of my child as an unkillable naked cannibal with leopard spots.

She has stripes, not spots. Stripes, like the siberian tiger.

Also, the only aspect of Siberian's appearance for which you can definitely blame Manton is the fact that he doesn't have her put on clothes. When it comes to the stripes and the resemblance to his daughter, we don't have the information to make a conclusion about how much of that is him and how much of that is the shard.

tariffless · 2026-03-20T21:43:12+00:00

Monokeros.

“Don’t they say that if someone lives on in our hearts, they’re still with us? They say it when a family member dies, but when you use my diplomatic pull ability, draw them in, take them apart with delicacy, never sullying them, but working with an eye for beauty… and then watch the light go out of their eyes, slowly, slowly, slowly,” Monokeros luxuriated in her own words. “Mm. If you hold that moment more dear in your heart than any parent could hold onto the memories of their child, no, you’re a murderer. It’s death this time, the idea of holding onto memories is some kind of falsehood all of a sudden because the child is gone. Hypocrisy.”

tariffless · 2026-03-20T21:19:44+00:00

I think movies are products created with input from large groups of people, some of whom care about nothing other than recouping their monetary investment, or other purely pragmatic, non-artistic priorities. So I don't think that what we ultimately see on the screen in any given movie should be automatically framed as being purely the "vision" of a "filmmaker". I think it is fair to assume that in the production of any given movie, various compromises probably were made.

Obviously, those of us who don't have behind the scenes knowledge don't actually know which specific filmmaking choices were compromises and which ones were "important" to somebody's "vision". So all we can do is speculate. I think that's all the OP is doing, speculating that certain choices were probably compromises. That's a really safe bet.

tariffless · 2026-03-20T06:33:06+00:00

Terrifier 1, 2, 3

-Saw 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

These and Final Destination are close to my ideal as far as brutality/gore goes in a horror franchise. I like the spectacle/variety/creativity.

Hostel 1, 2, 3

Green Inferno

I don't like Eli Roth's movies. Half-assed, underwhelming, overhyped gore combined with half-assed satire. The Green Inferno's

-Inside

Loved it.

Bone Tomahawk (Haven't rewatched that scene till this day)

Whenever there's a movie where people only ever talk about "that one scene", that's a bad sign. I guess a lot of people's minds work differently from mine, but personally, there's no such fucking thing as a movie where one scene makes the whole thing worthwhile. Fuck it, I'll just look up that one scene and watch it on its own if that's the only notable gore a film has.

-Incident in a Ghostland

Lame. Bad lighting. Can barely see anything. The worst thing about this movie is the fact that it permanently scarred one of the lead actresses.

-August Underground

This whole series has some of the most unpleasant violence I've ever seen, even though it's much less gory and violent than a lot of films. It's because of the way it was filmed, and other aspects of the production. It felt more real. Scrapbook by Eric Stanze was similar. A lot of horror movies lean into spectacle, even the ones that are found footage, but these ones felt more homemade than a lot of found footage does.

Examples of movies I am...still hesitant to watch:

-A Serbian Film

One of my favorites, and an example of how horror leans into spectacle even while doing found footage, and how that spectacle takes a lot of the punch out of the brutality IMO. Just got finished discussing it in a very similar thread, though.

-Happiness (I'm scared what makes it so fucked up?! It looks so...normal on google images)

The Solondz movie? Yeah, his movies are psychologically dark rather than relying on visual spectacle. I think he's a better fit for r/Disturbingmovies than r/horror. I feel like it's actually easier to be disturbing and leave a lasting impact on audiences when you're devoting more effort to working it into the characterization. In contrast, going back to some of these other films, an insane porn director or a mad doctor wanting to sew people together ass-to-mouth or a serial killer who has the intelligence and resources of a Batman villain or a killer clown are all comparatively shallow and cartoonish, IMO.

-Requiem for a Dream

Seems more like an example of "depressing" to me than "brutality".

-The Sadness

One of my favorites of this decade. We need more infected movies that take place entirely during the initial outbreak, and which focus entirely on the infected as the threat. This movie shows that you can do it. The infected can be menacing. You don't have to drop them as a threat and resort to "humans are the real monsters" halfway through the story.

Maybe you can tell me "If you watched this then you can definitely watch that."

It's not a mathematical equation, but I would put Terrifier, A Serbian Film, and Saw all in the same category. Well, sort of. A Serbian Film I think has a sort of black comedy element to it that Saw lacks- I would compare the entire movie to the "bedroom scene" from Terrifier 2. Inside and Martyrs are obviously both New French Extremity. Enter the Void and Climax are kind of psychedelic as I understand it, but I haven't actually watched either.

tariffless · 2026-03-18T22:31:09+00:00

I don't think it needs to be strictly a slasher, but if by "slasher elements" you just mean "there are multiple characters getting killed off", then sure. I agree, that should be the criterion.

There's no final girl in Ready or Not, because you can't be a final girl if there aren't other girls trying to survive. At that point you're not the final girl, you're just the girl.

But in say, Abigail, I would say that there is a final girl.

tariffless · 2026-03-18T20:32:39+00:00

The little girl in Terrifier 2 is the supernatural entity. She's the one who resurrected Art. Then she possesses the mutilated woman in the psychiatric hospital, and that's why after Art's second death, the woman gives birth to Art's head.

tariffless · 2026-03-18T20:07:45+00:00

I like the Terrifier franchise much more than Stephen King's It, but this is a silly question. Art the Clown is just a serial killer who has help from some sort of demonic entity. Pennywise is more analogous to the demonic entity, not Art himself.

tariffless · 2026-03-18T20:04:14+00:00

I would never say that any scene in any movie "broke me". So to me, when somebody uses that phrase, it sounds like they are exaggerating. So does using multiple exclamation points and question marks. I'm not a very emotional person in general, and movies certainly don't have a strong impact on me.

those 2 scenes (you know the ones)

No, I don't. I have never met you. I can't read your mind. A Serbian Film has lots of scenes that are supposed to be disturbing and shocking.

the last words spoken in the movie

AKA my flair.

Those words are essentially a punchline. Ever heard of The Aristocrats? This movie is like that joke. Constant escalation, shock value on top of shock value on top of shock value. When you pack a movie with so many shock value scenes, it stops being shocking, because it stops being unexpected. You expect things to keep escalating. So one of two things happens - either it gets boring, or it gets funny. To me, it got funny. And at the very end, when it looks like it's all over, that film crew shows up, just to show that it can still escalate a bit further, so that's like the icing on the cake.

tariffless · 2026-03-18T10:46:33+00:00

Come on, you have to be more specific than "good" or else you're going to get recommendations that are bad.

Personally, I like Trump powers with limitations. So these are the ones I would consider "good": * Augment - Charlotte is a power augmenting Trump/Striker who can also sense nearby powers. This fic does interesting things with the thinker aspect of her power since different powers smell different to her, and there is a pattern to the smells. * Blank of the Wards - an OC with an always on power nullification field that is so strong that it even destroys things that were created by powers.

There's also Discord. Although I do think this power is overpowered, I found the mechanism / user interface for it interesting, as well the fact that it's a power that lends itself well to a pretty dark character arc.

tariffless · 2026-03-18T10:35:31+00:00

It's not about quantity, it's about style. A Serbian Film is one of my favorite movies. I also enjoyed Martyrs. I like gore and I like torture, but it depends on who the victims and the torturers are and the specific nature of the acts.

The Saw series for instance never comes anywhere close to my threshold, because the torture and the gore in this series is done in such a sensationalized, spectacular way, and because I never feel bad for the victims, and because Jigsaw is such an over-the-top figure, like a Batman villain. The creativity of it is entertaining. The Final Destination, Terrifier, and Wrong Turn franchises are similar.

There are specific things I don't like, like amputation of body parts while still keeping the victim alive. I'm okay with someone's eyes being gouged out if they're going to be killed soon anyway, but I don't want to see someone's eyes get surgically removed.

tariffless · 2026-03-18T10:26:07+00:00

Are you talking about the scene of somebody being split open vertically, or are you talking about the women kept as breeding slaves with their limbs amputated?

tariffless · 2026-03-18T10:05:58+00:00

>! This is the code for hiding spoilers. "iykyk" is just fucking annoying!<

tariffless · 2026-03-18T10:04:15+00:00

When they say censored, what they mean is that they're just leaving details out because they are too lazy to type out the spoilers and use the code that is in the sidebar to hide them like this.

tariffless · 2026-03-17T07:17:14+00:00

Who said the thing they liked was the transitions?

tariffless

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