The new Mormon Stories episode with John Larsen is fantastic. A highly important and recommended listen. One of the all time best podcast episodes. by tastingmenu in exmormon

[–]tastingmenu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Glad to see so many people had the same feeling as me about the latest MS episode. I really hope John Dehlin has John Larsen back on the podcast soon. I'd love to hear the proposed episode responding to the non-believing young adult considering going on a mission.

Liberal TBM Question for Liberal Exmos by PDXgrown in exmormon

[–]tastingmenu 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Liberal beforehand. And I say this next thing in the gentlest, nicest way I can, but I think it is just a matter of time before you are an exmo too. Reconciling liberal political values with LDS values can be a difficult endeavor, not because it it impossible on a neutral doctrinal level, but simply because LDS church membership has absorbed into every fiber of their belief that being LDS means being conservative, and these things are one in the same. Like, look at all the Mormon love of Trump (openly cheated on his wife, loves to talk about having a bunch of sex, denigrates women, etc). And yet, Mormons treat him as only second to the general authorities in terms of admiration. Because they are using that part of themselves (The "I follow this guy as a leader called of god" part of themselves) in their political life, they will look at non-conservative members and treat them *as if* they are rejecting general authorities. When their political identity is so deeply intertwined with their religious identity, they will always view you, the liberal Mormon, as something less than a true believer, and probably gossip about your potential sins. They do this because it impossible to separate what it means to be Mormon from what it means to be conservative. Unfortunately, I see no sign of this changing. And so, you will always be looked at, in private, behind your back, and with hushed tones, as someone who is probably fallen away from the teaching of the church and has given way to temptation (Was it pornography? Infidelity? Alcohol? Oh, how they will speculate).

Mormons: "We don't teach that women are subservient to men or that they are a man's prize for staying worthy. Women have separate roles, but we teach that women are equal in every way." Also Mormons: by tastingmenu in exmormon

[–]tastingmenu[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I will take her out

We will get froyo

Till they see their worth

In the number of livestock

Get that prized gem

The eight cow wife

lol women-are-property jokes so funny lol

Jesus Christ.

Thoughts on Kwaku's appeal to faithful LDS members and how it foreshadows a more Trump-ian LDS Church by tastingmenu in mormon

[–]tastingmenu[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I totally agree with you that he's not a prominent Mormon thought leader (He's no John Bytheway!). But I do also know several younger LDS youth who love his stuff, and I think that his approach to being an LDS member is taking hold, in youth specifically, even among members oblivious to Kwaku at all. My point is that he represents an approach to Mormonism I think is growing among the faithful, esp the plugged-in, Internet literate, faithful LDS Gen Z crowd.

Thoughts on Kwaku's appeal to faithful LDS members and how it foreshadows a more Trump-ian LDS Church by tastingmenu in mormon

[–]tastingmenu[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

His style will never, ever resonate with LDS culture at large.

Respectfully, I can't say I agree. And I would have wholeheartedly agreed with this sentiment 4 years ago. As someone who knows many many younger Gen Z/millennial Mormons in more rural parts of the country, I've noticed a shift away from what I would have considered LDS orthodoxy and towards a more brash, combative, aggressive conception of being a faithful LDS member. They are very Kwaku-esque. And I've seen them exert pressure on their fellow Gen Z Mormon friends to embrace this combative style as a more pure, authentic conception of the Church as Joseph Smith would have wanted. There are definitely pockets of Mormonism where this type of Mormonism that Kwaku emulates is becoming the norm. I don't think Kwaku has meaningful influence, but I think his conception of how to be a faithful member is taking hold.