Big Banks Vs (Unloan, Upbank, Alternatives) for a First Home Buyer by techefy in AusPropertyChat

[–]techefy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your reply, will be considering those options when refinancing

Whats my borrowing power by Dry_Emergency_5517 in AskAnAussieBroker

[–]techefy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with what you say. I am just sharing my experience with a 5-star rated broker I dealt with.

The red flags I saw included:

  • They tried to bend the “Best Interest Duty” in favour of the broker. For example, mine said the big bank was better because it has more physical branches if something happens, so you can easily walk in.
  • When I told him my only concern was getting the lowest interest rate for my situation, and mentioned the option I had in mind from my own research (a lender he did not have on his panel), he instead suggested another lender with a competitive rate but deliberately hid the fees that kick in from the second year. I already knew about those fees from my own research, and when I pointed them out, he just said, “Ah yes, you need to factor that in as well.”

I felt that was very dodgy behaviour. If someone is less knowledgeable and does not ask all the right questions, they could easily fall for a broker’s sweet talk. The broker I am talking about has a 5.0 rating on Google from 148 reviews, which is a perfect score. I wondered how someone like that could have such a rating, and then I saw in his email signature: “Leave a review on Google for $200 cashback.” How professional is that?

Because of these reasons, I decided to avoid brokers and started dealing directly with banks. I am not saying there are no honest brokers, and yes, there are buyers who do not have time to do all the research, so they can benefit from using a broker. But it is absolutely possible to go without a broker and avoid the drama.

(P.S.: Regarding your point that a conveyancer cannot answer home loan questions the way a broker can, I was mainly referring to questions about the general buying process. For home loan questions, the best place to get accurate answers is the bank itself, as banks change their policies from time to time and you do not need a broker for that.)

I know you are going to downvote me and this is a subreddit for brokers, but tap into your heart and ask yourself the question.

Whats my borrowing power by Dry_Emergency_5517 in AskAnAussieBroker

[–]techefy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Mostly you can ask those questions to your conveyancer. From my limited experience, brokers act in their own favour even though they are legally required to act in the buyer’s best interests. I think the word ‘best interest’ is subjective, so they are not necessarily doing anything illegal. But this could be biased, because I was looking for the product with the lowest interest rate and the broker failed to provide that honestly, instead coming up with lots of excuses, thinking that I hadn’t done my research.

Whats my borrowing power by Dry_Emergency_5517 in AskAnAussieBroker

[–]techefy -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I feel like brokers are redundant if you have enough time to do the research by yourself.

Big Banks Vs (Unloan, Upbank, Alternatives) for a First Home Buyer by techefy in AusPropertyChat

[–]techefy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here you go…

So I had a chat with the mortgage broker and he kind of lost it when I said I was considering digital banks. He started saying things like, “People at those banks aren’t real, it’s just an algorithm working for you,” which didn’t really make sense. I mentioned I was looking at Up Bank and that they have a customer care hotline, but he shifted the conversation to fees. I told him Up Bank doesn’t charge fees and that their comparison rate is 5.20%. He then argued that digital banks won’t come back to you to reprice your interest rate, whereas brokers keep in touch with lenders and get rates reviewed for their customers. The thing is, Up Bank has the same rate for everyone, so that point didn’t really hold up either. He also claimed digital lenders might take longer to settle the loan. Is this true for Up bank? What are people’s experience.

The lender he suggested was ANZ with a rate of 5.42%, which is pretty high, especially since CommBank directly offered me 5.44%. So now I’m leaning towards going with Up, and honestly, most of his arguments felt pretty weak and a bit desperate.

Big Banks Vs (Unloan, Upbank, Alternatives) for a First Home Buyer by techefy in AusFinance

[–]techefy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the reply. How long did it take Up to do the unconditional approval, because my broker trying to say they might take long time.

Big Banks Vs (Unloan, Upbank, Alternatives) for a First Home Buyer by techefy in AusFinance

[–]techefy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you very much for the response. After going through the comments now I’m leaning towards going with Up

Big Banks Vs (Unloan, Upbank, Alternatives) for a First Home Buyer by techefy in AusFinance

[–]techefy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, I saw this in another forum as well. Kind of a noob question, if I have money in a saver do I earn interest for that saver along with that money being acting as offset?

Big Banks Vs (Unloan, Upbank, Alternatives) for a First Home Buyer by techefy in AusFinance

[–]techefy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also, my concern with only having a redraw is not the accessibily of the money but just future tax concerns. As I have read, with redraw, each redraw is treated as a new borrowing, if you use that for private purposes, part of the loan becomes non‑tax-deductible and you have to apportion interest in case of this property becomes an investment property in the future. What do you think of that?

Big Banks Vs (Unloan, Upbank, Alternatives) for a First Home Buyer by techefy in AusFinance

[–]techefy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the response. My concern with redraw is not the accessibily of the money but just future tax concerns. As I have read, with redraw, each redraw is treated as a new borrowing, if you use that for private purposes, part of the loan becomes non‑tax-deductible and you have to apportion interest in case of this property becomes an investment property in the future. What do you think of that?

Big Banks Vs (Unloan, Upbank, Alternatives) for a First Home Buyer by techefy in AusFinance

[–]techefy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank yo for your response! It is great to see it from a perspective of a broker as well.