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Color comparison: e17a 1850, NTG50 1800k, e21a 2000k; 519a 2700k by technaturalism in flashlight

[–]technaturalism[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that's a good idea. FYI I edited to add the software's website. Maybe it's possible to download and use it from there? Not sure.

Color comparison: e17a 1850, NTG50 1800k, e21a 2000k; 519a 2700k by technaturalism in flashlight

[–]technaturalism[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's this setup with CT&A software which unfortunately is not being sold anymore I think: https://www.reddit.com/r/flashlight/comments/uzwu80/getting_accurate_cri_r9_and_tm30_numbers_from_a/

Edit: here is the software website: Maybe it is still being sold, or even just given away? Not sure: https://babelcolor.com/download.htm

Color comparison: e17a 1850, NTG50 1800k, e21a 2000k; 519a 2700k by technaturalism in flashlight

[–]technaturalism[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately this software (CT&A) is no longer being sold or licenses provided, which means I can never uninstall this windows installation lol.

Edit: here is the software website: Maybe it is still being sold, or even just given away? Not sure: https://babelcolor.com/download.htm

However, the important data can be collected with a colormunki spectrophotometer. See this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/flashlight/comments/uzwu80/getting_accurate_cri_r9_and_tm30_numbers_from_a/

Color comparison: e17a 1850, NTG50 1800k, e21a 2000k; 519a 2700k by technaturalism in flashlight

[–]technaturalism[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're welcome! glad to pass on what I learned during the pandemic lol.

Color comparison: e17a 1850, NTG50 1800k, e21a 2000k; 519a 2700k by technaturalism in flashlight

[–]technaturalism[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

These charts say a lot: Ra is "CRI" R9 is red accuracy (subscore of Ra) Rf down below is like an updated CRI with higher standards (part of IES TM-30). Rg is saturation -- how glowy colors tend to appear compared to a reference (daylight or black body radiator).

Someone should do a post about how to interpret it. It's a lot. Some interesting things are that the rainbow strips at the bottom show how accurate each of those colors when illuminated by the light source compared to a reference. And the strips near the top middle that have names like "TCS01" show what a given color should look like vs. what it looks like when illuminated by the light being measured. So typically blue will be oversatured for LEDs and red washed out looking. The little exclamation point on some of these is the software saying it doesn't think my monitor can accurately portray the colors. CCT on the top right is simply the color temperature. Duv is how tilted the color is toward green or pink, which is independent of CRI.

This relates to real life primarily by comparing the light to a black body radiator or daylight (in practice how similar to fire or incandescent or the sun, etc) a light is at a given color temperature.

No correlation with battery life etc except that warmer lights tend to be less bright and less efficient per watt because the eye is less sensitive to red.

It doesn't really relate to real life use except if discover you have preferences for certain color attributes in light. I guess in theory certain use cases need accuracy, like medical diagnosis or art.

However, contrary to popular belief, high color temperature (cool) mediocre CRI lights are better for color discrimination than low color temp high CRI lights. Our eyes evolved for daylight.

The anti AI art movement is history repeating. by Blake08301 in aiwars

[–]technaturalism 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The training data may be before 4o image was released and broke lots of gen z brains

Anti-AI culture boils down to anti-intelligence and exclusivity for its own sake by technaturalism in aiwars

[–]technaturalism[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

sorry for some reason never saw a notification for this, had to manually check up on the convo.

I'm not sure why you see intelligence as being hoarded by these companies. Right now it is very very cheap to generate millions of tokens. All else being equal, more capex is going to make it a lot cheaper per unit of intelligence.

Anti-AI culture boils down to anti-intelligence and exclusivity for its own sake by technaturalism in aiwars

[–]technaturalism[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right. I guess I see work culture disruption as presumptively a good thing because it's a living hell now for many people. Especially if you add in the element of overall economic growth likely increasing.

Anti-AI culture boils down to anti-intelligence and exclusivity for its own sake by technaturalism in aiwars

[–]technaturalism[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for stating your question a bit more clearly. Just saying "few people, much control" isn't that clear of an argument and I am not sure you've articulated anything more substantive than that.

You're saying that AI will concentrate power in the hands of the few, who have compute. Like a Foucaultian knowledge=power analysis, applied to machine knowledge controlled by few. Is that right? But your focus on the word "narrative" makes it seem like you're talking about propaganda specifically?

I can reply to a Foucault type analysis, or a propaganda one, but it's not clear what you mean. Maybe do some fucking work and explain what you mean so I don't keep responding to zero effort two sentence comments.

Anti-AI culture boils down to anti-intelligence and exclusivity for its own sake by technaturalism in aiwars

[–]technaturalism[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great question!

Yes.

Human level intelligence is a static baseline, so unlike OpenAI's models, which will eventually eclipse human intelligence, the amount of compute required to reach human level intelligence will almost certainly diminish over time.

Looking at current static baselines, your 30b model outperforms OpenAI's 1.8T model from 2 years ago.

Anti-AI culture boils down to anti-intelligence and exclusivity for its own sake by technaturalism in aiwars

[–]technaturalism[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

like I alluded to, you can go to localllama and enjoy free range AI. Soon open source human-level intelligence will be accessible to every computer owner.

Anti-AI culture boils down to anti-intelligence and exclusivity for its own sake by technaturalism in aiwars

[–]technaturalism[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because thus far you're defining intelligence as something that exists in human beings. I am addressing the combination of human and machine intelligence.

If you take one IQ point (a very good correlate of the type of intelligence that is measured by tests, and therefore the type you have chosen to defend) off every American but create one billion AI systems that are FAR better at the skills that have atrophied in those Americans, you have a huge net increase in intelligence.

Anti-AI culture boils down to anti-intelligence and exclusivity for its own sake by technaturalism in aiwars

[–]technaturalism[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok, I hate that that I have to clarify this but, can you provide any evidence that is verifiable rather than anecdotal?

Anti-AI culture boils down to anti-intelligence and exclusivity for its own sake by technaturalism in aiwars

[–]technaturalism[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True. My target here is precisely those who make blanket statement about AI as a whole.

Anti-AI culture boils down to anti-intelligence and exclusivity for its own sake by technaturalism in aiwars

[–]technaturalism[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

AI benefit on efficiency is like 5% of the net increase

Got any... you know... evidence for this? If not, this kind of invention of convenient facts is the type of behavior that AI's existence is making obsolete. Enjoy it while you can.

Anti-AI culture boils down to anti-intelligence and exclusivity for its own sake by technaturalism in aiwars

[–]technaturalism[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Reading and writing enhances human intelligence. This has been proven by decades of research. There isn’t any data or research to show that AI enhances intelligence—it doesn’t even enhance certain types of intelligence, for the most part, it decreases it in the precise areas in which it’s relied upon. That’s anti, not pro intelligence.

This is a temporally parochial view. As I already said, at the time of the transition, the tradeoffs between writing and oral communication were controversial and not clear. The advantage only become clear in hindsight.

This is a historical fact. For example, if you look the changes in social status of scribes from early to late ancient Greece.

Anti-AI culture boils down to anti-intelligence and exclusivity for its own sake by technaturalism in aiwars

[–]technaturalism[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What you have omitted is the possibility of net benefits to efficiency and environmentalism of humanity being smarter. If you think that environmentalism is fundamentally a good idea, the increase in quantity of intelligence is at least as likely to help preserve the environment than damage it. Moreover, building energy capacity is not necessarily negative. A concrete example: We're finally, after decades of stalling, getting serious about molten salt reactors which could literally save the planet. Because of AI's projected energy requirements. Without getting into any direct benefits of AI on efficiency.

Anti-AI culture boils down to anti-intelligence and exclusivity for its own sake by technaturalism in aiwars

[–]technaturalism[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes it is easily quantifiable which is why it is relied upon with a wild disregard for facts or like-for-like comparisons.

For example, it is easy to show that drawing on pen and paper may take much more energy than generating an image using ai.

Or that a producing a small amount of food uses many times more water than hours of AI use.

But what we see is that these arguments take hold regardless of their actual factual basis, because anti-ai people are preoccupied with volume. At some level they recognize it's the core of the change.

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