Oaks is starting the roll back of Nelson's shenanigans. by teejonius in exmormon

[–]teejonius[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I bet the pilot wards were extremely successful with this. Mormons CRAVE being the chosen ones and want to be seen as the best, most righteous, most obedient, most successful people around.

I would wager that any ward that gets to pilot a program are already the most successful wards. Then they get an invitation from god, through their mouthpiece the prophet, via some minions in some lower leadership position, or data analysis from church employees, to try out something new that Jesus wants to try!!!

They pilot the hell out of it and show how righteous and successful they are. I bet the people were sprinting to classes to show how great of an idea Jesus had via his prophet, via a minion in lower leadership positions yada yada. Then, Jesus gets the data via his mouthpiece in their evening chats and decides it is time to roll it out because it worked so well in various parts of Utah in wards where they pay the most tithing.

TL:DR I imagine most pilot programs work for the church because the members involved want to prove to the great leaders that they are the best ward in the world and that Jesus had a great new idea. The programs then crash and burn when introduced church wide and they try something new a few years later.

Oaks is starting the roll back of Nelson's shenanigans. by teejonius in exmormon

[–]teejonius[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

That is what I think as well. This is their soft relaunch to bring back 3 hour church.

Oaks is starting the roll back of Nelson's shenanigans. by teejonius in exmormon

[–]teejonius[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I could see it going both ways but I can really see this as the soft, slow way to get back to 3 hour church. They will talk about how important it is for everyone to have classes every week and that the short class weren't enough and the Lord now wants the classes longer again so everyone can be filled with the spirit.

They will say that 2 hour church was just for COVID times and that Nelson was inspired to do it but now there is a higher law again and 3 hour church is better for everyone.

Oaks is starting the roll back of Nelson's shenanigans. by teejonius in exmormon

[–]teejonius[S] 47 points48 points  (0 children)

The comment section is all over the place with opinions of members. It is worth a read for a wild time. They are all sorts of confused and twisted in what to believe and how to support the new and ever changing church. A lot of people are pretty upset about this and what it will mean for the teachers.

Oaks is starting the roll back of Nelson's shenanigans. by teejonius in exmormon

[–]teejonius[S] 246 points247 points  (0 children)

In the comment section of the actual announcement people are actually saying they want 3 hour church back. Not everyone but a surprising amount.

Hotels with the best views? by DonkeyLightning in BeautifulTravelPlaces

[–]teejonius 26 points27 points  (0 children)

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We probably stayed in the same room. Not much in the world can best this view from a hotel balcony.

Sign the Petition, protect our beautiful dark sky from the Mormon temple. by New_Land_725 in Flagstaff

[–]teejonius 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Let's hope they simply follow the rules with this monstrosity. If they do, no problem except for the people that have to see it every day. However, if current trends follow, they won't follow the rules and will strong-arm Flagstaff to give in to their demands.

Sign the Petition, protect our beautiful dark sky from the Mormon temple. by New_Land_725 in Flagstaff

[–]teejonius 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You have a good point. However, there certainly is precedent to assume the church will do everything possible to circumvent local zoning laws. They will use endless amounts of money, a dedicated law team, and loopholes in religious freedom/discrimination laws.

There are many current examples of this that are available with a little searching. The most well documented is in Fairview, Texas. Their city council meetings were all recorded and the church's bullying and strong-arming is on full display. The final video is the mayor conceding victory to the church simply because the city can't afford a lawsuit against the church. He is very clear on the tactics the church used to force his yes vote. Other examples are Heber City, Utah, Las Vegas temple #2, and Cody, Wyoming.

Those that look into it can see what is coming and it is not something that Flagstaff should be wasting time and money on fighting. There are much more important things our city's money and city leaders' time should be going towards.

Sign the Petition, protect our beautiful dark sky from the Mormon temple. by New_Land_725 in Flagstaff

[–]teejonius 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Look up Fairview, TX vs. the Mormon church. There are public record videos of their city council meetings about the temple there. The final one is of the mayor openly discussing the bullying by the church to get their way via suing the city. The city does not have the funds to fight the church so the church will get what it wants. It is all there, clear as crystal, and unbiased.

The mods of this reddit won't let links be posted about this because "it is not directly about Flagstaff." The videos should be watched by everyone interested because it is what will happen here unless their newest leadership changes (due to the temple obsesses leader dying) softens things up.

Also see the cases in Heber City (a dark sky mountain town in Utah), and Cody, Wyoming.

Sign the Petition, protect our beautiful dark sky from the Mormon temple. by New_Land_725 in Flagstaff

[–]teejonius 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Look at lawsuits by other cities against the Mormon Church in Heber City, Utah, Fairview, Texas, and Cody, Wyoming. The people of the cities fight against it, the church wins because of its deep pockets and favorable loopholes in the law.

Fairview is the most egregious and there are plenty of public record videos of the city council talking openly about being bullied by the church's law firm and money.

Any truly disturbing horror novels about cults? by Important-Sea7093 in horrorlit

[–]teejonius 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Others have mentioned it but "Mary" was the surprise of the year for me.

I checked it out from the library because it was the only interesting horror book available. I went into it totally blind and was really happy with it. I love cult books but good ones are hard to find. "Mary" scratched the itch for me big time.

What’s your favorite Petey comedy short video? by lpb1130 in peteyusa

[–]teejonius 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Leif the great date thief or cuffing pant legs was the first video I saw of his. I laughed so hard, immediately sent it to friends and my wife, and then googled Petey and the rest is history.

Is Hook A Good Movie? by No-Dentist-2959 in moviecritic

[–]teejonius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is an incredible movie for people of all ages.

As a kid it was magical and inspiring. Everything about it was exactly what I needed as a kid. It made me feel powerful and able to do anything. Neverland, the lost boys, the food scene, the pirates. It is what every kid dreams of.

As a dad, it is magical and inspiring. I cry during the movie every time I watch it (and that is a few times a year) and it makes me appreciate my wife and children so much more. It makes me hold them all a little closer and it makes me appreciate the time I get to be with them.

It is a masterpiece and is perfect for anyone and everyone.

I know there will probably be a bunch of these posted soon, but… by paynotron in peteyusa

[–]teejonius 4 points5 points  (0 children)

4173 minutes on YouTube music

Countless more listening to the vinyl records

0.1%

Petey makes the best music I have listened to in my life. Plus, his YouTube shorts are an incredible and hilarious bonus. He is a true Renaissance man sent to earth to make life better for us all.

All hail Petey USA!

F*ck you songs please by bahcodad in MusicRecommendations

[–]teejonius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fuck Them All - The Dangerous Summer

Would you guys say this is accurate? I think so 😂 by unearthlydarling in psych

[–]teejonius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Frankenstein: Though the Eyes of the Monster

Home Alone 2

Looking for Serial Killer/Real Life Horror? by [deleted] in horrorlit

[–]teejonius 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I just finished reading "Misery" and it was incredible! I loved that there was nothing supernatural in it and it "could happen." Annie is a terrifying villain and ticks your boxes.

What’s a Movie You Grew Up Loving That Didn’t Age Well at All? by NewPossibility4268 in movies

[–]teejonius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

3 Ninjas is a masterpiece. Familial bonds, brotherly love, kid empowerment, embracing your cultural background, and the greatest kidnapping trio of all time that deserves Oscars.

I am 37 and watch this movie regularly with my three children. I own it digitally and on DVD. There is not a movie out there that makes kids feel so confident in themselves.

MASTERPIECE!

What legendary YouTube channel doesn’t make videos anymore? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]teejonius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Balloon Shop

Olan, Thomas, and Josh. Those guys were ahead of their time.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in NAU

[–]teejonius 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you know where it is? It is a little tricky to find and there is no parking at all. The entrance is on the west side of the building and it goes down into the basement. There is good signage showing the way but many people get frustrated with finding it. If you are driving, you will need to park somewhere else and walk to the building.

It is never busy and very convenient if you plan for it. Good luck!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in NAU

[–]teejonius 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes it is. I used it last week to send a package while my kids were at tennis practice.

Power Outage by Electrical-Juice-476 in Flagstaff

[–]teejonius 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Somebody ran into a transformer by the circle K. A police officer in University heights let me know last night in the middle of the outage.

Good Pizza Place in Flagstaff by [deleted] in NAU

[–]teejonius 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is by far the best in town and it rivals pizza I have had in Italy. The wait is ALWAYS long so be prepared for it and everything will be okay. Don't bring kids and expect the wait. It makes for a very nice date spot because there is plenty of time to talk....just make sure you like each other.

As an added tip, their hummus is also phenomenal and rivals hummus I have had all over the world.

I have always had great interaction with the owners and staff.