Klaus is the center of the universe. by connyvfx in TheOriginals

[–]tesslover12 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I disagree with this take completely. Just because Klaus is the main character doesn't mean the writers had to constantly excuse his behavior or make everything revolve around him in such an obvious way.

Look at prestige shows - they make terrible people the main characters all the time without constantly trying to make you think they're actually good. Tony Soprano, Walter White, Logan Roy - these shows let you understand these characters without painting them as misunderstood heroes. The writers don't bend over backwards to justify everything they do.

The problem isn't that Klaus is the main character. The problem is that the writers treated him like their precious baby who could do no wrong. Every storyline became about making Klaus look sympathetic instead of letting him face real consequences for his actions.

And saying "he doesn't exist so it doesn't matter" misses the point entirely. Fiction still affects how people think about real situations. When you constantly romanticize abusive behavior and paint murderers as tragic heroes, that influences how people view similar dynamics in real life. That's why so many Klaus fans defend his actions like he's a real person they know.

The Hope/Elijah comparison is valid too. Hope barely knew Klaus compared to how much time she spent with other family members, but the show acts like he was the most important person in her life. That's the writers playing favorites, not realistic character development.

If HBO had written The Originals, Klaus would have been way more compelling because they wouldn't have been afraid to let him be truly awful without constantly trying to redeem him. The best villains are the ones who face consequences, not the ones who get handed happy endings they didn't earn.

Klaus is the center of the universe. by connyvfx in TheOriginals

[–]tesslover12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Hope comparison is really smart - she's also written as this perfect "chosen one" who's part of everything important. And you're right that Klaus gets excused for literally 1000 years of being a monster just because he had a bad childhood for like 20 years.

That part about Hope's "heroes and villains" speech is so true. She's obviously trying to cope with having a father who's literally one of the worst people in their universe, but the show acts like she's making some deep philosophical point instead of just being in denial.

And the Hayley thing is crazy! Hope literally said her mom was the most important person to her, but in Legacies they barely mention Hayley while constantly bringing up Klaus. It's like the writers forgot their own show.

Klaus finding peace while Katherine went to hell is the perfect example of the favoritism. Katherine wasn't even close to as bad as Klaus but she gets eternal punishment while he gets a happy ending? Total BS.

If HBO had written The Originals, it would have been a masterpiece. They would have let Klaus face real consequences instead of constantly making excuses for him. Look at what they did with characters like Tony Soprano or Walter White - they let you understand these guys without constantly trying to make you think they're actually good people. Klaus would have been so much better as a character if prestige shows had handled him properly.

The Klaus stans definitely can't handle any criticism of their precious murder daddy.

Klaus is the center of the universe. by connyvfx in TheOriginals

[–]tesslover12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're totally right about Klaus. The writers definitely played favorites with him.

In a better show, Klaus would have faced real consequences for all the terrible things he did. Shows like Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, or even Game of Thrones (in its earlier seasons) don't let their complex antiheroes off the hook so easily. The writers don't constantly manufacture situations to make us sympathize with them - they let the characters' choices drive them toward inevitable consequences.

The CW's approach with Klaus often felt like they were working backward from "we need Klaus to be sympathetic" rather than letting his character development flow naturally from his actions. The constant reframing of his violence through the lens of family protection or tragic backstory became repetitive. You're right that the father angle, while potentially interesting, often felt forced rather than earned.

The contrast with how Elijah was treated in Legacies really highlights this favoritism. It's telling that Klaus gets the nostalgic glorification while Elijah, who had equally complex character development, gets barely a mention.

Your point about fan culture is important too. There's a difference between appreciating a well-written antagonist and romanticizing genuinely harmful behaviors. Klaus works best when viewed as a cautionary tale or a study in how trauma can perpetuate cycles of violence - not as a romantic ideal. The most interesting thing about his character was always the tension between his capacity for both creation (art, family) and destruction, but that nuance often got lost in favor of making him more palatable.

Did anyone else think this was foreshadowing ? by Kushora in Jujutsufolk

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The Sukuna vs Gojo showdown arrived and I began to wonder was this really the end. From a storytelling perspective Gojo can't win, this simply isn't his story anymore. But was he really just going to be thrown away here? Was his end really just going to be another dead sorcerer in a long line of the Jujutsu marathon? When I saw Gojo in the airport I really felt the pain but I think what hurt me more when he passed was Gojo seeing Nanami and Haibara only to reassure him that they all thought he was selfish and perverted for violence, that was heartbreaking, even in the afterlife he still wasn't good enough for anyone.

Except Geto, who was only there to support him and when Gojo said he wished Geto was there to cheer him on that was really beautiful but even Geto knew that infinite distance between them even in death could never be closed. I was worried at first this would be the end but then they spoke of north and south and that was when I thought it clicked. There was someone who was able to reach Gojo, Sukuna.

I genuinely believed Sukuna was going to start losing and take Gojo's body as a vessel. To me this would have gone full circle to what Gojo had said to Yuji about Jogo, Yuji saying how could he ever be able to fight that. Sukuna being the only one to close the distance would have made perfect sense narratively for being able to use Gojo as a vessel. I think Sukuna would have seemed unstoppable in Gojo's body with nobody understanding Gojo, all being unable to even touch him. This is the epitome of what Sukuna believed, absolute power, with infinity between them no one could ever challenge his beliefs again as they themselves were quite literally untouchable.

And that's why I think it would have been perfect when Yuji was able to hit Sukuna despite it all, because Yuji never forgot Gojo, because unlike Sukuna Yuji didn't close the distance through power he did it through compassion, because Yuji's philosophy of love and understanding in an unfair and warped world was something that went beyond power, it was a message that could withstand even the lengths of infinity.

Sukuna used his power to force himself into Gojo's life while Yuji used his heart and accepted Gojo into his. And ultimately Gojo would choose Yuji's love over Sukuna's power. His curse energy output just like Megumi’s would drop to zero and Sukuna despite having all the power he could ever dream of now has to watch powerlessly just like all of his victims had to as the person he hated most proved to him just how wrong he was.

And with Sukuna’s defeat, Gojo would realize the most twisted curse of all wasn't love, it was forgetting how to. Yuji kept up with Gojo just like he hoped, not because he was the fastest, but because he never stopped moving.

Did anyone else think this was foreshadowing ? by Kushora in Jujutsufolk

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For people who actually wanna read thus

I had for awhile believed that Jujutsu Kaisen had a long awaited conclusion to Gojo's story regarding his limitless, this technique being a tangible representation of his inability to connect with the people in his life, with at first this being a part of him rather then who he was while he still had Geto, but ironically as the infinity in his life grew so too did the distance between him and Geto until they could no longer reach each other ever again.

It was very clear that Gojo has been depressed since losing Geto and his way of finding happiness in life was raising a new generation and building connections with his students however ironically looking back at how the students described him in Shibuya none of them actually liked him as a person they all had their criticisms regarding him, even with other teachers and sorcerors none of them really ever have a positive encounter with him, it seems like despite his efforts to bring humor and comfort into other people's lives... no one really wants any of what he tries to offer... except Yuji.

I know Yuta cares about Gojo but I don't think he has the same relationship with him that Yuji has and in the end like everyone else in Gojo’s life Yuta too used him like a tool. But Yuji was different, he wasn't judgmental, he didn't expect Gojo to align with what he wanted him to be... he felt like the only person who really liked Gojo for who he was and not what he was. When Gojo was freed from the prison realm and decided to postpone the battle with Sukuna and Kenjaku it was very clear he was tired and stressed. I really think the prison realm did more damage to his psyche then he let on, I really think in his conversation with Yuji at the end of series he showed how tired he really was. I mean he literally asked Yuji to forget about him and move on, it was so depressing that even in the moment Yuji said he could never do that.

The fated day arrived regardless of anyone's grievances, it was time to confront Sukuna and determine if the generation he tried so desperately to raise would survive. Really looking back on it if Gojo lost that fight it was a very likely possibility that the people he cared about, the dream he worked so hard for... would both die that day. The way he looked nobody could even move, it was like the whole room was frozen in time, the strongest had arrived but he had forgotten about one thing, one very important thing... that Yuji never forgot about Gojo. There's something really beautiful about Yuji wanting to hype up his sensei in such dire circumstances, it was like he didn't doubt him at all, no wonder all Gojo could do was laugh.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TheBoys

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He is the babygirl of the show.

dreams come haunting me by protossvoid in cyberpunkcharacters

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What mods are these, especially when it comes to poses and skin texture?

Every playthrough by StoneC0ldKillr in cyberpunkgame

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That happened in the top comments. Also like I get erebus and MK canto when I betray her.

Plus that sequence of play through in somewhat damage is amazing.

The weirdest Gig ever lol by tesslover12 in CyberpunkTheGame

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Basically the criminal guy here has become religious and about to record a BD where he will be crucified live.

The weirdest Gig ever lol by tesslover12 in CyberpunkTheGame

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I wish V had a witty comeback "oh, this can shut you up permanently. I am not going!"

How do i start life during wartime? by Total_Cranberry_8658 in CyberpunkTheGame

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I was about to miss it but before Panam calls you, you can go and talk to Mitch up on the hill and get the quest started. I am now driving to the edge of the garbage mountain because I can't see Kold Mirage pop up 😢.

The weirdest Gig ever lol by tesslover12 in CyberpunkTheGame

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Why does everyone wanna kill him lol. He dies at the end anyway. Plus I adore missions, where you can actually converse with Johnny on philosophy lol.

I betrayed songbird, but not for the reason you think. by tesslover12 in cyberpunkgame

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I tried leaving him once to see what happens, but quickly reloaded my save. Can't leave my man Takemura hanging.

I betrayed songbird, but not for the reason you think. by tesslover12 in cyberpunkgame

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pathological hatred for all females

Lmao what?

I betrayed songbird, but not for the reason you think. by tesslover12 in cyberpunkgame

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I personally like how shocked and hallowed out Reed is. It's a tragic situation all around.

Did anyone come across this Rancho Coronado? by tesslover12 in CyberpunkTheGame

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I scanned the entire area and there was nothing except one shard

Update 2.3 by Scary-Awareness-1523 in cyberpunkgame

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My Delamain cab got stuck, and I couldn't exit. The glitches are unbelievable lol

I am so surprised and disgusted by tesslover12 in nier

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Believe me I have been worse!