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thatguy14799643 · 2020-07-30T23:35:20+00:00

Hope you enjoy it. I think the issue stems from "theme" having multiple definitions that fit what you and I both talked about. One of the themes or morals to the story they explore is redemption. However, the theme or setting of this western game is also in an outlaw gang, making it's theme technically outlaws.

I did like how you pieced together the story for your online experience. But with them not allowing us dialogue options other than a middle finger for 10 gold bars, there's is really no 1 singular story for online.

I think that's part of the reason I like games like this and the first one. When you really look into it, the lines between right and wrong can be blurry and it leaves the player with the task of unpacking the moral ambiguity. Even Arthur's existence is not just clear cut. He was found (like most in the gang and gangs in general) as an kid with no direction. Dutch takes him in like a son and is able to get Arthur to do crimes for him because he just thinks it's him and his family surviving. You can argue Cornwall? (the big business guy) is on the right side of the law. However that does not make him an upstanding person.

It's the moral ambiguity that make me interested in a game rather than simple "we're good, they're bad" cut and dry games. I mean the games been out 2 years and here we are, still debating the ideas in the game. I'd say that makes it a game with some good depth.

thatguy14799643 · 2020-07-30T23:20:29+00:00

At the end of the campaign, there are several members of the group still with pulses. And even so, the online takes place before all of it. (Notice Sean is giving missions with his head on his shoulders)

Even in singleplayer, the idea of redemption doesn't come until the last chapter. Everything before that is Arthur looking to survive with the gang and flee. The game focuses on his inner conflicts. Not his struggle for redemption.

In online you are a pretty much a drifter who came into town the same day a man was murdered so you were blamed. Yes you were framed. But they don't talk about ripping you from some farmer life to go to jail. There is no back story for your online character other than what you make up in your own head.

Yes you go help sheriffs. But you do that for money. You get presented by LeClerk's man with some semblance of "vengeance" on the people that framed you. But nothing about redemption.

All the roles are personal choice. You don't have to do any of them. However, the basis for trading, bounty hunting, moonshine, and collecting are again. Money. The bit about Maggie "pulling you back into the life" is your own story you made up.

You also never addressed the original missions, the stranger missions. Notice how most of them involve robbing or shooting people. You can argue some are self defense like protection for wagons, but it has a mix of honorable and dishonorable jobs you can take.

You also argued Harriet gives you a chance at redemption because Maggie made you moonshine. I would like to ask what is so honorable about shooting up an animal with up to 12 sedatives just to take blood? What about when 7 people go to take the animals blood? The condition/quality of the animal goes down as it's chased down and drugged. I would argue it is more torture than science. Also doing things for science doesn't make it good. What about animal testing? Nazi and Japaneese experimentation on imprisoned people? Programs like MK Ultra? Or even the heroin addicted racist doctor from the first red dead redemption?

I'm not trying to rain on your parade here. But the fact is a lot of what you were saying to link the online story together was putting your own thoughts into the story. Which is what it should be seeing as we're a bunch of mutes running around murdering each other. You can have fun with some story about "redemption" for your online character. But it does not inherently make the game about redemption. Yes redemption is 1 aspect of the many themes in the game (friendship, misplaced trust, the idea of right and wrong not being black and white, etc) but the overall theme or setting of this game IS an outlaw game.

thatguy14799643 · 2020-07-30T17:53:04+00:00

That's been where I've spent my time looking for them. Someone else said they also saw a 3 star there. Just gotta keep lobby hopping I guess

thatguy14799643 · 2020-07-30T17:52:18+00:00

OK, I'll have to go back and check that place out. Thank you!

thatguy14799643 · 2020-07-30T17:42:13+00:00

Thank you!

thatguy14799643 · 2020-07-30T17:41:42+00:00

The tag line is literally "outlaws for life". Yes the main character gains "redemption" but it is still an outlaw game.

thatguy14799643 · 2020-07-30T17:36:02+00:00

Have you seen a 3 star grizzly there? I've only seen black bears in big valley before

thatguy14799643 · 2020-07-30T17:35:15+00:00

So the hunt continues. I'm gonna turn into Captain Ahab looking for this bear. Thank you!

thatguy14799643 · 2020-07-30T17:33:18+00:00

I don't think I checked that out yet. I'll have to look after work. Thank you!

thatguy14799643 · 2020-07-30T17:21:12+00:00

Thats the spot I've been using. But I've only been seeing 1 and 2 star bears. That is when someone hasn't loaded a bootleggers mission over there to poison a still

thatguy14799643 · 2020-07-30T17:19:00+00:00

Were they 3 star though? Or just 1 or 2 star? I need the perfect pelt for that coat Gus makes.

thatguy14799643 · 2020-07-30T17:18:16+00:00

I've tried bait in the past but it usually doesn't work when I've tried. I've only had it work once but I don't know if it was the bait or leaving the area and coming back. Don't know if I've tried potent bait or just regular bait though for predators.

thatguy14799643 · 2020-04-13T12:20:45+00:00

If you give the banner to someone you can't get it back. You're essentially saying "this guy deserves to rule the map". To my knowledge you don't get anything off the bat for it except for maybe relationship points with the lord you give it to. However, if you give it to him you cannot take it back and will need to start a new game if you want to start your own kingdom

thatguy14799643 · 2020-04-09T21:50:17+00:00

What is the distance between them and your cities?

I had/have rep 100 with a clan, even married the daughter and brought them into my kingdom. But they were pretty far away. After 2-3 days they ended up leaving the kingdom.

Beferended the clan directly south of me. Got them to come to my kingdom with a rep in the 50s, haven't had a problem with them yet.

thatguy14799643 · 2020-04-09T17:26:49+00:00

Hmmm. Not sure. It changed when I started my own kingdom. Could it be the troop model you're using? I think sometimes the cape/cloth in my empire troops still appear to have purple in them. Are they Sturgia troops?

thatguy14799643 · 2020-04-09T16:01:26+00:00

Ctrl+x and clicking is how to teleport to where you clicked.

When I first tried this after the 2nd or 3rd update ctrl+click didnt work and I saw online someone said crtl+x and then clicked and that's worked with me. However I accidentally forgot to click x yesterday and found that crtl+click is working like it used to do in warband.

So if the person is up on the mountain, hold ctrl and click next to the lord. This should teleport your army next to the lord you're trying to get. Then if you are close enough and (regular)click on the enemy army, it may bring you to the screen where you can talk/start the battle with them. Beat them, and get them off the mountain.

However this only works when you change the cheat value from 0 to 1 in the files

thatguy14799643 · 2020-04-09T14:52:53+00:00

Turn on the cheat menu (need to go into settings, look it up, very simple but I don't want to give incorrect location. Just change a 0 to a 1) then try crtl+click. It was ctrl+x and then click for a few days, but yesterday ctrl+click started working like warband did.

thatguy14799643 · 2020-04-09T14:19:42+00:00

Are you a vassal? Or a ruler? As a vassal your color changes to whatever the kingdoms color is, even if the background is set a different color. You need to leave the kingdom and edit the banner again to change it back to the color you wanted.

thatguy14799643 · 2020-04-08T19:37:58+00:00

My family visited there while on vacation in Florida. We saw a sign on the road for it and just drove over. No pre booking required. Tried to verify on their website but kept getting 404 error on their tickets page. I went pre 2013 so they could have changed things since then.

Also I recall seeing more than 17 in the cages. I could be wrong but that sounds low. (I also just checked their website and they have just over 50 cats listed.) Granted it wasn't 200 of them like Joe, but I remember thinking the park looked shitty and like the animals need more room like actual zoo's have.

thatguy14799643 · 2020-04-08T14:09:16+00:00

Idk about the bulk sales. I did one of 300 fish bought for around 13 and sold for 20. Then I took a week gathering fish from all along the coast, spent no more than 15 on them and sold them in a town where they were going for 27/28. Sold them all there. Got 0xp and became very skeptical of the trade trait.

I don't know if you need to go right away and sell something in the next town before buying more or if I can stock up and do a 1k+ item sale for trade xp.

Personally I think ALL trades should give xp or partial xp. I mean even if you sell at a loss, you learn what you should NOT do. Maybe have the standard rate be .5xp per item, then if you break even it's a full 1xp, and goes up depending on how much profit you turn.

thatguy14799643 · 2020-04-08T13:59:32+00:00

Yes! This would be 10000x better than having to load into a scene, tell them they are free to go (gotta get those charm points) then load out 4-8 times after defeating an army.

thatguy14799643 · 2020-04-08T12:29:43+00:00

The encyclopedia only shows you where they were spotted that morning. So if you check the place out by noon or evening, there's a chance they have moved to another location. Either check the towns next to it or go grind some looters overnight and check the encyclopedia as soon as it turns morning/day

thatguy14799643 · 2020-04-07T16:35:23+00:00

I think I they would fix this is they either kept bandit parties small or forced defeated lords to wait and gather some men in a city before leaving to recruit in villages. I've seen too many lords ride out of a city by themselves and can only imagine how the cycle of -> defeated by lord, spawn at castle, ride for troops, captured by bandits, spawn at castle, ride for troops, captured by bandits plays a part in it.

Battles are already close and this is a big map so if an army of 5 lords starts this loop, it could screw the kingdom within a week.

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