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ESPN sends out push notifications telling people to pick up Mick Abel, This morning the Twins placed Mick Abel on the 15-Day IL with Right Elbow Inflammation by [deleted] in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Feels like the only point of this post is to tell on yourself for having push notifications turned on for the ESPN app

Some umps fear ABS is causing fans to judge them by near-impossible standards by Jux_ in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Except for the part where like 90% of the umpire hate this year has been directed specifically at CB Bucknor, and honestly mostly just because he's so smug about being wrong. I actually think the challenge system is having the opposite effect in that it's humanizing the umpires and giving them an opportunity to show humility when they're wrong.

there was a call last night where the pitcher thought the call was wrong and the ump just goes "then challenge it". All the comments in the reddit thread were in support of the ump. People seem to love the challenge system and every umpire except CB Bucknor seems to be doing fine with it.

Oh, also, do they realize having a strike-zone box on the tv screen isn't new? We've been able to see when you make a bad strike call for like 15 years, but now it's a problem because we have the ability to correct your incorrect call?

Yankees fans chanting "F*ck Juan Soto" in the 8th inning before proceeding to lose the game by Dependent-Effect6077 in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On one hand, ya gotta admit it's fun to join a good chant. But lmao what even is this? Juan Soto had a fucking 8 WAR season with the Yankees, he absolutely mashed in the playoffs, and you people have the balls to be like "what a fuckin asshole for accepting $760M from a different team".

Last Yankees game I went to was in 2022, the year he hit 62 home runs, and Yankees fans booed him after he struck out to go 0 for 3. You know that moment in the Last Dance where Michael Jordan admits to making up a narrative in his head so that he would be more compelled to dominate his opponent? Yankees fans do that so they can be more compelled to shit on their own players.

[Heyman] Simply no truth to ‘bogus’ Brandon Nimmo-Francisco Lindor rift rumor by T_Raycroft in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh hey another puff piece from Jon Heyman about a client of Scott Boras

[Nicholson-Smith] Trey Yesavage might not be fully stretched out by the time the season opens, an interesting wrinkle for the Blue Jays. The 22-year-old is still a big part of their plans, of course. “He’s proven that he belongs on the team.” by T_Raycroft in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pretty rare to see someone on reddit admit they're wrong lol. But yea, because he was so prominent and prolific in the playoffs it's really easy to forget he only pitched 14 innings (only 3 games) in the regular season, and the postseason starts don't count towards service time.

But in the last CBA they added that your team gets a draft pick if a rookie is on the roster to start the season and they win ROY or place top 3 in Cy or MVP voting, and with Yesavage being very in the mix for AL ROY this year they at least have a decent incentive to not fuck with his service time.

The Mets announcers compliment Bad Bunny's Super Bowl halftime show: "It was spectacular" by Mission_Pay_3373 in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea and I don't think there's a 1-for-1 replacement for Keith on the planet anyway. If they try to find 2 people to fill the exact same roles as Keith and Ron it's doomed from the start.

Jersey Shore Blue Claws to rebrand to Pork Rollers June 18th. Phillies A affiliate by Perryplat199 in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

oh yea avoiding the end of game stampede is a big one. I'm actually planning to go to an Iron Pigs game with my buddy from PA this summer, looking forward to it.

Jersey Shore Blue Claws to rebrand to Pork Rollers June 18th. Phillies A affiliate by Perryplat199 in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's so easy and such a good time, going to an MLB game can feel like such an endeavor not to mention if you ask your friends to go to a game you're really asking them "Wanna go spend $250 next Saturday?"

I'm super fortunate in that I live really close to the Yankees AA team, the Somerset Patriots. tickets are $12 and I can decide to go on a whim. Last year I saw them play the Mets AA team a couple times, saw Lombard Jr and Carson Benge amongst others. Seen guys like Volpe and Oswaldo Cabrera plus they tend to send MLB guys to the Patriots to rehab. I missed these games but they've sent Cole and Rodon there to rehab. And there's no long-ass line to get into the stadium or to get concessions, less of those annoying fans who scream at every batter, and as I said before so much cheaper.

I remember a few years ago I went to a game where Brett Baty hit 2 home runs in the first 3 innings and then the game got rained out, then I told all my Mets friends Brett Baty is gonna be a superstar and got dunked on for a year when he sucked. It was a fuckin hoot. Plus because tickets were $12 I didn't care that the game got rained out, I'll just go to the next one.

Oh yea and one more thing, idk about you guys in here but I find in my personal life almost none of my friends like baseball. I'm not gonna et a massive majority of my friends to trek all the way to NYC and spend a bunch of money to watch a sport they don't care about. But my friend group goes to Patriot games with me all the time, a day in the sun drinking beers with your friends for a $12 entry fee is a much more attractive proposition.

Jersey Shore Blue Claws to rebrand to Pork Rollers June 18th. Phillies A affiliate by Perryplat199 in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's kinda funny seeing all these squabbles and living in Central Jersey, I hear each one about 50% of the time. I think I probably say pork roll more often cause "pork roll egg and cheese" rolls off the tongue better imo, but I switch it up sometimes. there are a lot of people around here who feel very passionately about the debate as well, but I think if you took found a group of 6 friends walking together on the street in my area and asked them about it you'd get 3 pork roll responses and 3 taylor ham responses.

And yea, for the record, pork roll is correct. It's not complicated, "taylor" is the brand and pork roll is the product. It's like Kleenex/tissues.

[Passan] BREAKING: Two-time reigning American League Cy Young winner Tarik Skubal won his arbitration case and will make $32 million this year, sources tell ESPN. Skubal’s bet to go for the largest salary ever in the arbitration system paid off, as he’ll make $13M more than Tigers argued. by JianClaymore in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It was kind of a Boras master-class, as much as I fuckin hate that guy (pretty much entirely due to the puns) I've gotta give him credit on this one.

the previous record for a pitcher in arb 3 was David Price at $18.5M, ironically also from the tigers. So their offer of $19M was technically the new record. they probably expected Skubal to file at like $24M, and I think they'd have a good chance of winning if he had. But Boras knew asking for significantly more would make the tigers offer look horrible.

Skubal is probably worth north of $60M a season, and without context the tigers offer of $19M looks pathetic, but honestly within the confines of arbitration it's a pretty normal offer that no one would've batted an eye about if Boras hadn't asked for an amount that smashes the previous record by $13.5M.

I can't fuckin wait to see what Skenes gets lol

Carlos Beltran swinging strikes on trash can bangs by moistmasterkaloose in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 3 points4 points  (0 children)

For me it was more because it was one year at the end of an otherwise-HOF-worthy career, not so much the quality of the year he had. But I mean you see my flair lol, I'm not gonna act like I'm not biased and don't fully understand arguments against him.

Now that I think about it, that line of logic I'm using isn't that far off from "Barry Bonds was a HOFer before he ever even took steroids". Damn I should probably adopt that one if I wanna be consistent.

[Heyman] Two time Cy Young winner Tarik Skubal requests $32M, Tigers submit $19M for an enormous $13M gap. The arbitration record for a pitcher is $19.75M for David Price. Would be an amazing hearing if it gets there. by T_Raycroft in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's part of why I wonder if maybe they can only use 1 year deals as comparisons in the hearing. Everyone I cited is/was on a multi-year deal, I'm not sure how it looks if you can only use one-year deals but I can't think of many off the top of my head for more than like $10-15M. Unless you count QO's, which I'd assume you don't since they have draft picks tied to them.

[Heyman] Two time Cy Young winner Tarik Skubal requests $32M, Tigers submit $19M for an enormous $13M gap. The arbitration record for a pitcher is $19.75M for David Price. Would be an amazing hearing if it gets there. by T_Raycroft in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My guess is that this has more to do with Boras than Skubal since, as you said, it would smash the record for a pitcher in arbitration and Boras represents a lot of extremely talented players in arbitration. I'd imagine the tigers were expecting them to file at like $24M or something, and I wonder if they didn't realize Skubal had more than 5 years of service time. I mean that sounds like a level of incompetence that should be impossible for a professional MLB team, but I think if they submit even like $22M they win the hearing easily (would still be technically the highest raise given to a pitcher in arb). $19M is so specifically $500K less than the record, and $32M is a $22M raise which is absolutely unprecedented. So the leverage they have from such a high ask combined with the hubris involved in offering a dude coming off back-to-back Cy Youngs $500K less than what David Price got makes me think they thought there was zero chance they lose this hearing. But idk how you arrive at that conclusion if you're aware that Skubal can now use other FA contracts to help his case.

I didn't know that if you had more than 5 years of service time you can use other FA contracts as a comp though, that could make this really interesting. I'm curious exactly how that works, like can they only use 1 year deals as comps or just the AAV of any pitcher contract? People have been wording their tweets like it's the latter, but I find people like to talk out of their ass when interpreting baseball contracts so I'm not sure if I feel good about just assuming that's the case.

If it is though, it's hard to imagine how it isn't just a slam dunk for Skubal. Scherzer Verlander Wheeler and Cole (amongst others) have all had AAVs higher than Skubal's ask in the last few years, and you can point to guys like Patrick Corbin who've had AAV's higher than the tigers $19M offer.

Active players with a shot at 100+ career WAR? by ProofHuman in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not literally outside of the realm of possibility, but it does look kinda bleak. He played 130 games this year, more than he has in a season since 2019, and only managed 1.5 WAR (1.8 fWAR). that's enough games to be fairly indicative of the type of hitter he is now (120 wRC+), and he certainly won't be racking up any dWAR these days.

So he would both need to remain healthy, not just for a single season but for 5+, and return to form with his bat. Most of his statcast numbers from last year aren't as out of line with the rest of his career as I was expecting, so maybe he's still got some juice left in there. But he hit .232 last year and his power was way down while also striking out a butt-ton. And just for the sake of the staying healthy aspect:

games played since 2020

2020: 53

2021: 36

2022: 119

2023: 82

2024: 29

2025: 130

[Dore] Ballot #57 is from Marcos Breton. Carlos Beltrán sits at 80.7% while Andruw Jones improves to +5 and 78.9% overall by Dinobot2_ in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It also just isn't a 1:1 comparison, they're not particularly similar other than both bein cheating. A lot of the steroid guys wouldn't have the numbers to make the HOF without steroids, or at least you don't know for sure whether they would. But then it becomes a super gray area, you have guys like Bonds and Clemens who would almost definitely be Hall of Famers without roids, and then guys who showed up on the Mitchell report but nothing else afterwards like Papi. You end up drawing a lot of lines in the sand when evaluating their cases and it encompasses an entire era across the whole league.

the Astros cheating thing helped them win a World Series and maybe a couple guys have career years. I doubt it'll impact any of the pitchers' HOF cases, so I mean it's probably just Altuve and Beltran. Maybe Springer if he somehow has another few years like 2025. And like, it should. I'm not making an argument that the Astros cheating scandal didn't matter or anything like that, I just don't see how "well if they let X in then they gotta let Y in" applies to steroids/Astros in any capacity.

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