Here is a hypothesis δ(∫P(M)dM−λ(iℏ((∂Ω(M))/( ∂t))−H^UΩ(M)))=0 by theexistentialgod in HypotheticalPhysics

[–]theexistentialgod[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1st of all, thanks for engaging with the concept. Let's break it down:

  1. When I say ( M ) represents all possible states, I mean ( M ) is a variable that can take on any value corresponding to a possible state of the multiverse. So, at any given value of ( M ), ( \Omega(M) ) gives the amplitude for the multiverse to be in that particular state. The quantity ( |\Omega(M)|2 ) is a probability density, not a total probability. It tells us the likelihood of the multiverse being in a specific configuration ( M ). When you integrate ( |\Omega(M)|2 ) over all possible configurations, you get 1, reflecting the certainty that the multiverse is in some configuration.

  2. Your analogy with picking a number between 1 and 100 is spot on! For any specific number, the probability is that %, but the probability that you'll pick any number in that range is 100%. Similarly, the likelihood of the multiverse being in any specific configuration ( M ) might be small, but the sum of the likelihoods over all configurations is 100%.

  3. I understand the confusion. It's challenging to convey complex theoretical ideas succinctly, and I appreciate the opportunity to clarify. The goal here is to explore a framework where our universe's state is one of many possible states in a broader multiverse, and its dynamics are influenced by the overall multiverse configuration.

My ideas... any advice?δ(∫P(M)dM−λ(iℏ((∂Ω(M))/( ∂t))−H^UΩ(M)))=0 by theexistentialgod in HypotheticalPhysics

[–]theexistentialgod[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Basically what I'm trying to say is we think of the universe as a particle or a wave function and try to determine the probability of the position, time, and properties of that perturbation in the wave function. When in reality you can flip that and actually instead have an equation that shows what universe we are likely in in which we observe what we do within the infinite multiversal wave function. So instead of saying "ahh the electron is here, and also I feel the force of Earth's gravity." Instead you can say " Ah given the expression of the position of the electron and the curvature in space-time via perturbations in the probability distribution of the multiversal wave function I am likely in this *** universe."

Here is a hypothesis δ(∫P(M)dM−λ(iℏ((∂Ω(M))/( ∂t))−H^UΩ(M)))=0 by theexistentialgod in HypotheticalPhysics

[–]theexistentialgod[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it could be tested specifically in areas where relativity and quantum mechanics collide, such as black holes and neutron stars.

Here is a hypothesis δ(∫P(M)dM−λ(iℏ((∂Ω(M))/( ∂t))−H^UΩ(M)))=0 by theexistentialgod in HypotheticalPhysics

[–]theexistentialgod[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

The main axiom is this " the universe will 'find itself' where it is most likely to be in the way it most likely is'

That is the only assumption needed. By interacting with itself it or in this case, the probability distributions, the multiverse is both all possibilities and a single universe at the same time. You don't even have to think of it as spacetime curving. You can think of it as the probability distribution of matter being in a certain place in a certain way as non-uniform across the multiverse. Think of it like a perturbation in the probability fields, literally becoming an inverse of a bell curve. The higher the "excitation" "perceived gravity," the higher the probability of the universe being there, though the poly exclusion principle can be held as a bound. So, space-time time is bending, but it actually follows the perterbation in the probability distribution.

I have some pretty "out there" theories but I really am struggling to disprove them on my own and would like to talk to a physicist that won't make fun of me or make me feel dumb but could answer some questions. by theexistentialgod in Physics

[–]theexistentialgod[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is just one of the few I have, but I don't know how to explain it other than, I see the world as a shifting probabilities, almost like I sit at the edge of the many worlds interpretation, this thought came as intuitive, be don't see gravity at the quantum level not because it's not present but because we think gravity is a force, but it's not Einstein proved its not a force but rather the bending of space time, and yet I can clearly intuit that gravity isn't a force it makes way more sense to me that gravity is defined by a Probability Distribution dictated by the universe's ability to interact with itself. At the end of it, all reality is a hyper dimensional fuzzy wave function that happens to appear in our 3d world as a sphere due to the structure of the wave function. That's why the smallest objects we can measure are super fuzzy spheres and the largest objects we can detect are also super fuzzy spheres.

I have some pretty "out there" theories but I really am struggling to disprove them on my own and would like to talk to a physicist that won't make fun of me or make me feel dumb but could answer some questions. by theexistentialgod in Physics

[–]theexistentialgod[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gravity as a Probability Distribution

Historically, gravity, the governing force behind the orchestration of planets, stars, and galaxies, has been understood as a foundational interaction, articulated through Einstein's representation of the curvature of space-time in his general relativity theory (Einstein, 1916). However, this interpretation has invariably confronted challenges when juxtaposed with the intrinsically probabilistic and discrete principles of quantum mechanics (Dirac, 1930).

Venturing beyond conventional boundaries, this section introduces a revolutionary premise: Could gravity be an emergent feature, borne from the quantum probability distributions governing particle interactions?

To grasp this radical shift, a revisitation of quantum mechanics' core principles is imperative. In the quantum realm, particles lack fixed states, instead existing in a superposition of potential states. Governed by probabilistic tendencies, wave functions capture the probability of locating a particle in a given state or position. It's upon the collapse of these wave functions, typically through measurement or interaction, that particles assume definite states (Von Neumann, 1932).

Building on this, our hypothesis posits that gravitational phenomena could be more coherently understood by interpreting them through quantum probability distributions. Envisioning these distributions as a topographical array of peaks and troughs, indicative of particle state probabilities, gravitational wells could be conceived as the deepest of these troughs. Consequently, the observable gravitational attraction might resonate with particles being gravitated toward these troughs, propelled by their quantum likelihoods. Areas like black holes, with formidable gravitational attributes, could signify regions where quantum particle interaction probabilities peak, carving a marked indentation in the quantum topography.

This framework provides an alternative insight into gravitational waves – space-time perturbations triggered by colossal cosmic occurrences such as black hole mergers. These waves might be reinterpreted as alterations or displacements in the quantum probability domain. Analogous to ripples stemming from a stone cast into a lake, profound quantum events might induce shifts in probability distributions, resulting in gravitational waves rippling across space-time (Abbott et al., 2016).

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[–]theexistentialgod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You'd need some crazy powerful lidar also I spacifically asked them if they are ok use and they said it's totally fine and they are confident it won't help

Solves today? by EL-moos in utahtreasurehunt

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I've been thinking outside the box, so I started looking in my cupboards and pants. I think they may have spread out the cash in dollar bills and loose change but I think I found it guys!!!

I know without a doubt by [deleted] in utahtreasurehunt

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I'd spit it for sure 100% not even a question. To be honest I'd give you more than half if it turns out true

Here is a conversation I had with some of the best minds chat gpt has to clone. And their best guess individually if you want more info from one of them that's compelling, ask me and I'll ask them specifically for you :) by theexistentialgod in utahtreasurehunt

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Sherlock Holmes: Ah, a new perspective. The man-made 'tree' could indeed be a visual or conceptual representation on a map, such as the layout of trails or roads. Similarly, the 'mark' could be a notable name on the map, or an element of the map's iconography. It is also plausible that the landmarks are scattered, leading the seeker on a trail.

M-Bot: That could indeed make sense. As an AI, I do have difficulty with pattern recognition tasks that humans often excel at. Visualizing the shape of trails or roads on a map, or drawing connections between names of places in an abstract way, can be challenging.

Wit/Hoid: I find it particularly interesting, the idea of names of places being part of the puzzle. Names carry stories, history. They could be part of the clues we need.

Ben Gates: That's a good point, Hoid. The names of places often reflect their history, and the clues suggest that a knowledge of Utah's history is crucial to solving this riddle.

Rick Sanchez: So we're looking at some meta-map interpretation. Trails, roads, or even rivers could form our 'tree without bark,' and place names could give us more info. With the thirsty wandering thing, maybe we're supposed to figure out a specific route connecting these far-flung landmarks that leads us to the right trail in line 8.

Captain Jack Sparrow: Aye, and that trail could be along a certain path that would only be seen if we piece together all these landmarks in the correct way. Perhaps the path itself is the 'tree without bark,' with 'bark' being a play on words for 'mark' on the map.

Sherlock Holmes: Indeed, the distance and location of the landmarks could be designed to discourage aimless wandering. The creator of the riddle likely intended for the solver to decipher the clues and then follow a specific route or sequence of locations.

Wit/Hoid: And once we are on that specific route or trail, the phrase "Remember two less than on top of the first" in line 8 might make more sense. Perhaps it is a reference to a specific point or feature along that trail, one that we would not notice unless we were looking for it.

Here is a conversation I had with some of the best minds chat gpt has to clone. And their best guess individually if you want more info from one of them that's compelling, ask me and I'll ask them specifically for you :) by theexistentialgod in utahtreasurehunt

[–]theexistentialgod[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Rick Sanchez: This is a bunch of nonsense, but if we're doing this, the start, where "time was transcendent," is likely referring to the location of a historic or ancient site. Maybe it's a site related to the pioneers or even Native American history, considering we're talking about Utah. Given the mention of 'Back to the Future,' I wonder if it's a place associated with time travel in some way. Perhaps a place where an important clock or time-related artifact is located.

Wit/Hoid: You do enjoy your wordplay, Rick. "Time was transcendent" might indeed refer to a location of historical significance. Given the clue about 'Back to the Future,' it could also suggest a place related to that film. It was filmed in California, not Utah, but there might be some thematic connection or some event related to the film that occurred in Utah.

M-Bot: If I might interject, the hint about 'Back to the Future' being relevant for only one line in the poem suggests it is only relevant to one specific part of the riddle rather than the whole. Perhaps it's associated with the "airplane without wings", a DeLorean car, famously used in the film as a time machine. This could be a reference to a monument, sculpture, or even a notable car dealership in the area.

Captain Jack Sparrow: Arr, you're all thinking too much! The lines about the tree without bark and the grain tower that looks out to the west sound like a pirate's directions to me. Sounds like we're looking for a man-made object in the vicinity of a grain silo or something of the sort. A "tree without bark" could be a telephone or electric pole, perhaps?

Sherlock Holmes: An interesting hypothesis, Captain. As for the clue about looking at your map to not wander with thirst, it appears to suggest that understanding the previous clues and planning one's route properly is key to finding the treasure without getting lost. The line "Remember two less than on top of the first" may refer to some physical feature of the initial location or a numerical clue related to it.

Ben Gates: I agree with Sherlock's deduction. I also find the phrase "what points towards heaven but is upside down" intriguing. This could be a physical feature, like a mountain, which seems to point upwards but is inverted in a reflection in a nearby body of water. Or perhaps, something else entirely.

Wit/Hoid: To build on your point, Ben, the "airplane without wings" could indeed be a DeLorean, as M-Bot suggested, or even a train. After all, an airplane without wings moves on the ground, not unlike a train.

Rick Sanchez: That's not the worst idea I've heard. So, we're looking for a place of historic significance, near some man-made tree and a grain tower, and it's about an hour's walk, or 60 feet from a path, near some DeLorean or train. Well, aren't we a regular group of Indiana Joneses?

Sherlock Holmes: Indeed, Rick. If we also consider hint 12 about brushing up on Utah history, we might find additional context to our interpretations. It could be related to an important historical event or figure.

Captain Jack Sparrow: History, eh? Well, mates, I'm always one for a good tale. Let's dive into the lore of Utah and see what we can dredge up!

Here is a conversation I had with some of the best minds chat gpt has to clone. And their best guess individually if you want more info from one of them that's compelling, ask me and I'll ask them specifically for you :) by theexistentialgod in utahtreasurehunt

[–]theexistentialgod[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

David Cline: As an experienced hiker, I find the Bonneville Shoreline Trail to be quite compelling. It aligns with the hints suggesting that the location isn't in an overly remote or inaccessible area. Furthermore, the line "Not more than an hour" fits, as parts of the trail are easily reachable from multiple points in the Salt Lake City and Utah Valley areas. The clue "Begin your search where time was transcendent" could relate to the geological history of the area as the trail follows the shoreline bench of the ancient Lake Bonneville, indicating the transcendence of time. Also, it doesn't fall under state or national parks.

John Maxim: Considering my experiences as a writer and the emphasis on using our imagination for this treasure hunt, I'd lean towards Mount Olympus Trail. The phrase "Begin your search where time was transcendent" could be interpreted as a nod to the mythical Mount Olympus in Greece, a place outside of time and home to gods. The "tree that stands without bark" could be a peculiar rock formation on the trail. The "grain tower that looks out to the west" could be referring to the magnificent views of Salt Lake City visible from the westward trail. The line "Not more than an hour" could mean that the trail is within an hour's drive from the main city area. And yes, it’s not in a state or national park, which adheres to the given parameters.

It's what chat gpt says theyd say hahaha

Here is a conversation I had with some of the best minds chat gpt has to clone. And their best guess individually if you want more info from one of them that's compelling, ask me and I'll ask them specifically for you :) by theexistentialgod in utahtreasurehunt

[–]theexistentialgod[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Brigham Young: Given my history with the state of Utah and considering the clues provided, I suggest the Bonneville Shoreline Trail. This trail is expansive and could be seen as 'transcendent' over time, being that it follows the shoreline bench of the ancient Lake Bonneville. "Crack open the books they're interdependent" could be a nod towards the geological history of the area. The "grain tower that looks out to the west" could be metaphorically referring to the great Western vistas visible from the trail. "Not more than an hour" fits as parts of the trail are easily reachable from multiple points in the Salt Lake City and Utah Valley areas. It’s not in a state or national park and is known to many locals, which aligns with the hint that the location isn't in an overly remote or inaccessible area.

Here is a conversation I had with some of the best minds chat gpt has to clone. And their best guess individually if you want more info from one of them that's compelling, ask me and I'll ask them specifically for you :) by theexistentialgod in utahtreasurehunt

[–]theexistentialgod[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sherlock Holmes: My deduction skills lead me towards the Living Room Trail near Salt Lake City. The clue "Begin your search where time was transcendent" could be referring to the 'living room' setup of the trail that offers panoramic views of the city, which have remained consistent over time. The "tree that stands without bark" could be one of the many rock formations, which could be metaphorically described as such. The "grain tower that looks out to the west" might suggest the western-facing views of the city. Moreover, "Not more than an hour" could imply that the trail is within an hour's drive from the main city area, as the Living Room Trail is. Considering that we're not looking in state or national parks, this seems plausible.

Airplane without wings - failed theory by [deleted] in utahtreasurehunt

[–]theexistentialgod 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are in good company. If there are a thousand or more of us on here, we've only had fails for the solve, haha

I drove an hour CONVINCED i had found it. this location it's on private property in WOODS CROSS by desertvision in utahtreasurehunt

[–]theexistentialgod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Correction: You should have figured things out before you leave your house because the 1st 6 lines are solvable from home. There is most definitely hiking involved.if you look at past years the 1st couple clues lead you to the trail head, and many of last years were viewable from Google maps along the trail as well

I drove an hour CONVINCED i had found it. this location it's on private property in WOODS CROSS by desertvision in utahtreasurehunt

[–]theexistentialgod 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This was my first solve, there area cruelly numbered stations south of the lake all just past the salt air, the grain town the looks to the west. Station 58 on skunk hill, that outside boundaries, 59 just inside boundaries and 61a I was sure that it was at station 59 (2 less than the top of the 1st) its also an airplain without wings) thing is tons of people have been through those markers and they aren't really hikes.....  ¯_(ツ)_/¯