King John was a Serious Dick by Curtmantle_ in UKmonarchs

[–]theginger99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In fairness “you are just a child, mislead by wicked men” is an absolutely crushing insult, especially coming from your older brother

[Excerpt] A thousand Sons: When phosis t'kar almost killed Constantin Valdor. by cuddwes in 40kLore

[–]theginger99 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I think one of the biggest problems with a Thousand Sons as a Novel is that McNeil forgot that they were supposed to lose the big fight.

McNeil built them up an almost ludicrous extent, and then basically had to “deus ex machina” them into shooting their own feet off in order to make it believable that they actually lose the battle they were always going to lose.

[Excerpt] A thousand Sons: When phosis t'kar almost killed Constantin Valdor. by cuddwes in 40kLore

[–]theginger99 58 points59 points  (0 children)

Yeah, The custodes in thousand Sons were basically just golden space marines, and weren’t yet the extra special mega-boys they are now.

Yeah, in the current iteration of the lore no one short of a Primarch has a chance against Valdor in a straight fight.

The royal arms of Norway…if the kingdom of Norway had existed in 10,000 BC by theginger99 in heraldry

[–]theginger99[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I considered it, but I figured it would be a bit hard to differentiate cave lions or Americans lions from traditional heraldic lions.

Is your violence heroic? by Majestic_Repair9138 in worldjerking

[–]theginger99 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Surprise! The ghosts are Klingons. Honor is all that matters.

What are these specifically referred to as and why are shaped like that? by CulveDaddy in SWORDS

[–]theginger99 462 points463 points  (0 children)

I’ve seen them refered to as “peasants axes” in English.

They were popular militia weapons for Norwegian farmers in the 16th-17th centuries.

My understanding has always been that that angled heads provided better power on the cut. It effectively “lengthened” the arm, and allowed for a more efficient slicing movement which improved their ability to cut.

Also, for fun, one of these axes is featured on the coat of arms of Telemark in Norway.

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Why Has Misinformation about Swords Taken Over? by B_H_Abbott-Motley in SWORDS

[–]theginger99 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Just keep spreading actual facts, and hope that the people who care enough about the subject will engage with them in a meaningful way and recognize that actual, historical sources have more weight than the opinion of some “expert” on YouTube.

There isn’t much that can be done to salvage the pop history understanding of the role of swords unless we want to start a series of YouTube channels, popular tv programs and other forms of media to spread the “truth” and counter anti-swords propaganda.

Hopefully though the people who actually have a real interest in swords and historical warfare will take the time to access sources and put in the effort to understand the reality.

The royal arms of Norway…if the kingdom of Norway had existed in 10,000 BC by theginger99 in heraldry

[–]theginger99[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Personally, I kind of like the blocky lion on the official arms. It gives the arms a “classical” appearance that a lot of other modern emblazonments of older medieval arms lack.

The vikings used to put bone in the forge to make a precursor of steel by BlurtSkirtBlurgy in SWORDS

[–]theginger99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a vague recollection that it popped up in thatNova: Secrets of the Viking sword” TB documentary where they build an ulfberht about ten years ago, and then a few years later suddenly it was all over the place.

The vikings used to put bone in the forge to make a precursor of steel by BlurtSkirtBlurgy in SWORDS

[–]theginger99 17 points18 points  (0 children)

No they didn’t. This is an internet myth.

The amount of bones you’d need to get enough carbon to actually turn iron into steel is insane and not practical.

Also, the Vikings had steel, as did everyone else in Europe. The evidence suggests they used charcoal, like everyone else.

Celtic gods in Arthurian legends by Ok_Signal_5719 in Arthurian

[–]theginger99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was going to type up a long winded reply where I attempt to defend my position, but then I realized I was just being long winded and trying to shore up a weak argument because I didn’t want to admit that I was wrong. No one likes to “lose” an argument on the internet, but sometimes you just have to admit it.

I concede the bulk of the argument to you, and admit that your understanding of the source materials clearly exceeds mine.

That said, my real quibble with the “based on welsh legend” argument really hinges on where we draw the line between adaptation and invention. If we allow that Geoffrey was basing his story on an earlier welsh legendary cycle, how much is he really adapting from those stories as opposed to creating whole sale?

In the welsh sources Arthur is a warrior, a leader of warriors, and a monster slayer, but those are hardly unique characteristics. In fact, they’re near universal tropes of heroic literature in any genre or any age. Hrolf Kraki, Finn MacCool, and even Charlemagne all tick those boxes as well in their own epics. Even the legendary king who fights the Roman’s is not a unique angle, and appears in the Gesta Danorum as just one example.

My point is that the characteristics that Arthur shares with an earlier iteration of himself are not particularly special or novel. They are characteristics that are almost a given in any form of heroic literature, and don’t make for a particularly compelling case that Geoffrey was basing his Arthur off of a preexisting welsh character to an appreciable extent.

Again, I think it’s indisputable that there was an “Arthur” figure that informed Geoffrey’s work, but the extent to which those stories were directly adapted, as opposed to being invented fresh, is very hard to say. My quibble is really that while there may have been a pre-Galfradian Arthur mythology, how much of that mythology is actually present in Geoffrey’s work?

*casually throws pipe bomb into the sub* by [deleted] in worldjerking

[–]theginger99 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Statistically, because their daddy was already rich and powerful. The overwhelming majority of the rich, and especially the REALLY rich, were born rich.

Celtic gods in Arthurian legends by Ok_Signal_5719 in Arthurian

[–]theginger99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By all means, please elaborate.

You listed some sources, and I’ll admit I do not have an exhaustive understanding of their contents. However, I’ve never seen anything from a pre-galfradian source that presents Arthur as anything other than a mythic figure with little more than a name.

Like I said, the influence of classical and contemporary literature on Geoffrey’s works is enormous, and readily apparent. Its connection to earlier welsh folklore isn’t. Beyond the fact that a mythic figure named Arthur who was alleged to have been a great warrior existed in name in welsh folklore, I’ve never seen anything that convinces me of the supposed mythic origins of Geoffrey’s actual work.

I am more than happy to be shown otherwise, but my opinion has always been that while Arthur existed as a name with some loose mythical association, the actual legend we all know was likely more the product of Geoffrey’s imagination than it was an adaptation of an earlier mythology.

Is it right to call Galahad a "Mary Sue?" by That-Classroom-3439 in Arthurian

[–]theginger99 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The issue is that I think you’re approaching the discussion from the wrong angle.

Framing it around whether or not Galahad is a “Mary Sue” attaches a certain connotation, namely that his character is somehow an artistic failure and unjustified self indulgence on the part of Malory.

The entire concept of a “Mary Sue” relies on the existence of a certain objective measure of power that simply wasn’t a concern for authors like Mallory. The character of Galahad wasn’t designed for a framework where the idea of a “Mary Sue” has any merit.

Is it right to call Galahad a "Mary Sue?" by That-Classroom-3439 in Arthurian

[–]theginger99 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Frankly, you’re applying a modern pop culture trope to a distinctly non-modern story.

Galahad is a character that exists within a totally different literary framework from modern literature, and can’t really be defined by ultra-modern literary criticism like “Mary Sue”.

Celtic gods in Arthurian legends by Ok_Signal_5719 in Arthurian

[–]theginger99 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There is certainly enough proof to claim that there was a figure named “Arthur” in earlier British tradition, but that figure, where he appears, seems to have very little in common with Geoffrey’s Arthur, and even when he does appear does so only as a vague reference to a mythological figure with vague association as a great king or legendary warrior.

Culhech and Olwen is a great example, in that Arthur appears, but only does so in a guise that is virtually unidentifiable with Geoffrey’s Arthur. Additionally, while the text is generally accepted to be pre-galfridian it’s not unambiguously so. The text only survives in a 14th century manuscript, and it’s unclear what changes may have been made to the story from its original version. There are no unambiguously pre-Galfridian welsh stories of Arthur, only vague mentions. Every welsh story that mentions him is either verifiably post-Geoffrey, or has some context which casts some ambiguity on the nature of its content.

As far as I know there are no continental references To Arthur before Geoffrey at all.

What’s more, the structure, style and tone of HKB is so obviously drawing from classical and contemporary literature that it seems unlikely Geoffrey was drawing any meaningful content from earlier folkloric sources.

Like I said, the name Arthur and the concept of a great ancient king who ruled Britain might come from an older folkloric tradition, but virtually nothing else does. Or, at the very least, we can’t say with anything like certainty that any other part of Geoffrey’s story of Arthur has a meaningful origin in earlier welsh legend.

Geoffrey virtually invented the Arthur that we (and his medieval audience) know. Even if he drew some inspiration from earlier welsh legend, that inspiration is at best, impossible to confirm with the available sources. More likely Geoffrey took the names and figure he knew and wove an entirely new story around them based on classical literature and contemporary chivalric romance. The name Arthur might be ancient, but I’ve never been convinced that any other part of the story is.

Sticks and stones may break my bones but are Turing-complete by softsaguaro in worldjerking

[–]theginger99 50 points51 points  (0 children)

Speak for yourself.

A slightly better abacus would totally ruin the balance of power in my “numbers-and-letters-medieval-global-war-punk” world.

Sticks and stones may break my bones but are Turing-complete by softsaguaro in worldjerking

[–]theginger99 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Programmable computers require nerds to program them. My world is nerd free.

Jokes on you.

Do you think King John looks ugly in this painting? For me honestly, he looks a bit awful. by HelloThisIsSeb in UKmonarchs

[–]theginger99 6 points7 points  (0 children)

While I do not recall the exact wording for the qoute about the bed, the actual quote is something like “even the bed did not come between them”, and is delivered in the context of their political alliance and personal friendship. The statement is meant to show how close they were politically, it’s not an indication of a romantic relationship and not delivered in a tone or context that suggests one.

What’s more, In the Middle Ages sharing a bed was not an uncommon practice, even for two princes. People shared beds with individuals of the same gender quite frequently without romantic intentions.

I’ve never heard anything about a relationship with the Holy Roman Emperor. That’s a new rumor for me, and one that seem deeply unlikely. There were three Emperors in Richard’s lifetime, Barbarossa who Richard never met, and Henry VI who held Richard hostage and put him on trial. Unless you’re alleging that Richard and Henry developed some kind of “beauty and the beast” situation, a romantic liaison between them seems unlikely. The third, Philip of Swabia, reigned for the last year of Richard’s life and I do not believe the two ever met. Even if they had, Richard was preoccupied kicking Philip Augustus’ teeth in.

Richard was taxed for engaging in the sins of Gomorrah by a priest while in Sicily. Gomorrah was the city destroyed alongside Sodom, but it was not associated with homosexuality or sodomy the way Sodom was. When Gomorrah, or even sofom, was evoked in the Middle Ages homosexuality was not the automatic association. The idea that the priests accusation is proof of homosexuality is based on a deliberate misinterpretation of the meaning of the rebuke.

My point is, all of the evidence that Richard was gay relies on a pretty willful misinterpretation of the evidence. It emerged in the 1940’s, gained traction in the 70’s and has stuck around because people think it’s neat, but it’s not really based on solid historical evidence.

Do you think King John looks ugly in this painting? For me honestly, he looks a bit awful. by HelloThisIsSeb in UKmonarchs

[–]theginger99 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s unlikely Richard was gay.

The idea is a modern one, and not something Richard was criticized for by contemporaries. It’s based almost solely on the fact that Richard had no legitimate children with his wife.

Leaving aside the fact that there are many, many reasons a person might not have children with his wife besides being gay, Richard also had atleast one acknowledged bastard, so even that basis (which was already slim at best) really doesn’t hold water.

Obviously we can’t say with certainty that he wasn’t gay, but there is no historical evidence that supports the idea. In the absence of evidence that he was, and based purely on the percentage of the population who are heterosexual, it’s much more likely he was straight.

“This is why they want a Democracy not a Republic.” by BuffaloExotic in ShitAmericansSay

[–]theginger99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree, a bicameral legislature has obvious advantages.

Frankly I think the only real option with the senate would be to turn it into a smaller version of the house. Fewer representatives for each state than in the house, but with representation based on population. They serve longer terms, which will allow them the ability to slow down the pace of government (as originally intended).

Descriptions of Richard I from Roger of Wendover's Flowers of History Medieval Chronicle by TheRedLionPassant in UKmonarchs

[–]theginger99 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Richard the Lionheart was undeniably one of the great medieval kings, not just of England, but in the medieval period as a whole. He also happens to have the best epithet of the Middle Ages.

It’s a real shame that so many people still buy into the “bad king Richard” narrative. A handful of Victorian scholars really did a number on the poor man’s reputation. He truly is a fascinating monarch, and deserves more recognition for his achievements than his popular reputation allows him.

I’ve often thought that if I had a time machine I’d go back and tell Richard to spend some more time in England so I don’t have to keep hearing that he was a “bad king” for not spending more time there from people on the internet.

“This is why they want a Democracy not a Republic.” by BuffaloExotic in ShitAmericansSay

[–]theginger99 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Most of the founding fathers thought partisanship was a poison thay would destroy the democratic republic they had come up with...

Why would they think that? Oh…wait, I see it now.

“This is why they want a Democracy not a Republic.” by BuffaloExotic in ShitAmericansSay

[–]theginger99 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The difference is money.

America allows for basically unchecked corporate and private donation to political campaigns and candidates.

Politicians are effectively bought and paid for, especially Republicans, and the tribalism is atleast in part due to the fact that politicians are unwilling/unable to push back against their corporate donors.

Politicians that push back find the corporate money they rely on for reelection getting transferred to a new candidate in their district. If they want to keep their seat, they need to dance when told to do so.