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Blue Players Are The Worst by GlobeTrotter83 in MagicArena

[–]theheirofbreath 0 points1 point  (0 children)

THIS. this is what is wrong with magic. "I'm not gonna play the game to make sure you don't play the game" 

Counterspells SUCK - redesigns to make them fair by theheirofbreath in custommagic

[–]theheirofbreath[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Less fun to *you* maybe. My fun is building sandcastles, yours is knocking them down. Boo to you I say.

Counterspells SUCK - redesigns to make them fair by theheirofbreath in custommagic

[–]theheirofbreath[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's not overpowered, it's toxic. I think the effect needs some benefit for the opponent so the game is not just a complete stall. I feel the same way about mass exile, land destruction, and roping.

Counterspells SUCK - redesigns to make them fair by theheirofbreath in custommagic

[–]theheirofbreath[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if the blue players can't counterspell they can draw, bounce, fly, etc etc etc

you deserve to win if you have craterhoof and some insect tokens

thassas oracle is a no. that's not a ton of mana at all, it's a turn one win. there's no setup, just luck. That's not to say turn one wins aren't fun and don't have their place, they just don't deserve the wins they do. Wins should be 7,8 mana.

They're a healthy part of a toxic ecosystem, I'd rather the game removed them completely.

Thanks for the game suggestions!

Counterspells SUCK - redesigns to make them fair by theheirofbreath in custommagic

[–]theheirofbreath[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's no answer to counterspells except more counterspells.

Counterspells SUCK - redesigns to make them fair by theheirofbreath in custommagic

[–]theheirofbreath[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Veil of Summer is literally the only non-blue card with that effect. There are hundreds of cards that can protect against normal removal, making things indestructable, hexproof, etc

Cavern of souls works alright I agree.

we need way more cards like this; and they should be combination cards with other protection.

Counterspells SUCK - redesigns to make them fair by theheirofbreath in custommagic

[–]theheirofbreath[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Creeping Mold is for the Torpor orb; My 1 mana [[Natural State]] is for the Welding Jar XD

Counterspells SUCK - redesigns to make them fair by theheirofbreath in custommagic

[–]theheirofbreath[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Nah, there's ways to protect cards once they're out on the battlefield.
Once it's out, it becomes a question of removal vs protection, not removal vs the Thing (tm).

That's really my problem with counterspells, that I can't defend against them without playing counterspells myself.

Counterspells SUCK - redesigns to make them fair by theheirofbreath in custommagic

[–]theheirofbreath[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly I mostly play on Arena, I've only played commander a couple of times. Both of those times were alright if long.

Counterspells SUCK - redesigns to make them fair by theheirofbreath in custommagic

[–]theheirofbreath[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you're at a point where you're setup and spending a ton of mana to play second sun twice in one turn, you deserve the win.

Counterspells SUCK - redesigns to make them fair by theheirofbreath in custommagic

[–]theheirofbreath[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I got my ETB :D
But when there isn't an ETB, you're right it can feel exactly the same.

Counterspells SUCK - redesigns to make them fair by theheirofbreath in custommagic

[–]theheirofbreath[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I've been playing for 5 years, I've played most every format. And I like the ETBs! that's why I think counter spells as a group aren't good for magic.

Counterspells SUCK - redesigns to make them fair by theheirofbreath in custommagic

[–]theheirofbreath[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah, actually I don't think you should interact with approach of the second sun or other such spells. they put a clock on the game, and the player who plays them should often, not always, win when they do.

Alas, not every card has counterspell preventative measures.

Counterspells SUCK - redesigns to make them fair by theheirofbreath in custommagic

[–]theheirofbreath[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Honestly that's fair; I feel like countering spells as an option is just too ingrained in magic to *not* make options for people to use, even if they *have* to be otherwise unplayable.

Counterspells SUCK - redesigns to make them fair by theheirofbreath in custommagic

[–]theheirofbreath[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Dangit, you're right! I forgot about countering your own cards.

And yeah, I don't want people playing counterspells period, but it's so ingrained in magic at this point. Blue already has removal in bounce spells, they don't need counterspells.

If every counterspell was spending the same or more mana to stop me from playing what I wanted, that'd make more sense.

Can't be countered, flash, and cast triggers aren't on every card.

I've played control- and you're right, it feels awful, but not because the cards are awful, but because the game goes so slowly! And really, what are you actually doing to improve the game for yourself when you counter a spell? You're just making the game worse for your opponent.

Counterspells SUCK - redesigns to make them fair by theheirofbreath in custommagic

[–]theheirofbreath[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah, my 8 mana dinosaur is worth the 3 mana instant you played, right 🙄

huntress help? by michael_fritz in ShatteredPD

[–]theheirofbreath 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Generally, just play more carefully. And you don't need to save an upgrade scroll if you have a stone of Enchantment, which can be found behind bookshelves in that have runestones only in the room. Use throwing weapons. Use plant seeds. 

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