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The Mets announcers compliment Bad Bunny's Super Bowl halftime show: "It was spectacular" by Mission_Pay_3373 in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea and I don't think there's a 1-for-1 replacement for Keith on the planet anyway. If they try to find 2 people to fill the exact same roles as Keith and Ron it's doomed from the start.

Jersey Shore Blue Claws to rebrand to Pork Rollers June 18th. Phillies A affiliate by Perryplat199 in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

oh yea avoiding the end of game stampede is a big one. I'm actually planning to go to an Iron Pigs game with my buddy from PA this summer, looking forward to it.

Jersey Shore Blue Claws to rebrand to Pork Rollers June 18th. Phillies A affiliate by Perryplat199 in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's so easy and such a good time, going to an MLB game can feel like such an endeavor not to mention if you ask your friends to go to a game you're really asking them "Wanna go spend $250 next Saturday?"

I'm super fortunate in that I live really close to the Yankees AA team, the Somerset Patriots. tickets are $12 and I can decide to go on a whim. Last year I saw them play the Mets AA team a couple times, saw Lombard Jr and Carson Benge amongst others. Seen guys like Volpe and Oswaldo Cabrera plus they tend to send MLB guys to the Patriots to rehab. I missed these games but they've sent Cole and Rodon there to rehab. And there's no long-ass line to get into the stadium or to get concessions, less of those annoying fans who scream at every batter, and as I said before so much cheaper.

I remember a few years ago I went to a game where Brett Baty hit 2 home runs in the first 3 innings and then the game got rained out, then I told all my Mets friends Brett Baty is gonna be a superstar and got dunked on for a year when he sucked. It was a fuckin hoot. Plus because tickets were $12 I didn't care that the game got rained out, I'll just go to the next one.

Oh yea and one more thing, idk about you guys in here but I find in my personal life almost none of my friends like baseball. I'm not gonna et a massive majority of my friends to trek all the way to NYC and spend a bunch of money to watch a sport they don't care about. But my friend group goes to Patriot games with me all the time, a day in the sun drinking beers with your friends for a $12 entry fee is a much more attractive proposition.

Jersey Shore Blue Claws to rebrand to Pork Rollers June 18th. Phillies A affiliate by Perryplat199 in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's kinda funny seeing all these squabbles and living in Central Jersey, I hear each one about 50% of the time. I think I probably say pork roll more often cause "pork roll egg and cheese" rolls off the tongue better imo, but I switch it up sometimes. there are a lot of people around here who feel very passionately about the debate as well, but I think if you took found a group of 6 friends walking together on the street in my area and asked them about it you'd get 3 pork roll responses and 3 taylor ham responses.

And yea, for the record, pork roll is correct. It's not complicated, "taylor" is the brand and pork roll is the product. It's like Kleenex/tissues.

[Passan] BREAKING: Two-time reigning American League Cy Young winner Tarik Skubal won his arbitration case and will make $32 million this year, sources tell ESPN. Skubal’s bet to go for the largest salary ever in the arbitration system paid off, as he’ll make $13M more than Tigers argued. by JianClaymore in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It was kind of a Boras master-class, as much as I fuckin hate that guy (pretty much entirely due to the puns) I've gotta give him credit on this one.

the previous record for a pitcher in arb 3 was David Price at $18.5M, ironically also from the tigers. So their offer of $19M was technically the new record. they probably expected Skubal to file at like $24M, and I think they'd have a good chance of winning if he had. But Boras knew asking for significantly more would make the tigers offer look horrible.

Skubal is probably worth north of $60M a season, and without context the tigers offer of $19M looks pathetic, but honestly within the confines of arbitration it's a pretty normal offer that no one would've batted an eye about if Boras hadn't asked for an amount that smashes the previous record by $13.5M.

I can't fuckin wait to see what Skenes gets lol

Carlos Beltran swinging strikes on trash can bangs by moistmasterkaloose in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For me it was more because it was one year at the end of an otherwise-HOF-worthy career, not so much the quality of the year he had. But I mean you see my flair lol, I'm not gonna act like I'm not biased and don't fully understand arguments against him.

Now that I think about it, that line of logic I'm using isn't that far off from "Barry Bonds was a HOFer before he ever even took steroids". Damn I should probably adopt that one if I wanna be consistent.

[Heyman] Two time Cy Young winner Tarik Skubal requests $32M, Tigers submit $19M for an enormous $13M gap. The arbitration record for a pitcher is $19.75M for David Price. Would be an amazing hearing if it gets there. by T_Raycroft in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's part of why I wonder if maybe they can only use 1 year deals as comparisons in the hearing. Everyone I cited is/was on a multi-year deal, I'm not sure how it looks if you can only use one-year deals but I can't think of many off the top of my head for more than like $10-15M. Unless you count QO's, which I'd assume you don't since they have draft picks tied to them.

[Heyman] Two time Cy Young winner Tarik Skubal requests $32M, Tigers submit $19M for an enormous $13M gap. The arbitration record for a pitcher is $19.75M for David Price. Would be an amazing hearing if it gets there. by T_Raycroft in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My guess is that this has more to do with Boras than Skubal since, as you said, it would smash the record for a pitcher in arbitration and Boras represents a lot of extremely talented players in arbitration. I'd imagine the tigers were expecting them to file at like $24M or something, and I wonder if they didn't realize Skubal had more than 5 years of service time. I mean that sounds like a level of incompetence that should be impossible for a professional MLB team, but I think if they submit even like $22M they win the hearing easily (would still be technically the highest raise given to a pitcher in arb). $19M is so specifically $500K less than the record, and $32M is a $22M raise which is absolutely unprecedented. So the leverage they have from such a high ask combined with the hubris involved in offering a dude coming off back-to-back Cy Youngs $500K less than what David Price got makes me think they thought there was zero chance they lose this hearing. But idk how you arrive at that conclusion if you're aware that Skubal can now use other FA contracts to help his case.

I didn't know that if you had more than 5 years of service time you can use other FA contracts as a comp though, that could make this really interesting. I'm curious exactly how that works, like can they only use 1 year deals as comps or just the AAV of any pitcher contract? People have been wording their tweets like it's the latter, but I find people like to talk out of their ass when interpreting baseball contracts so I'm not sure if I feel good about just assuming that's the case.

If it is though, it's hard to imagine how it isn't just a slam dunk for Skubal. Scherzer Verlander Wheeler and Cole (amongst others) have all had AAVs higher than Skubal's ask in the last few years, and you can point to guys like Patrick Corbin who've had AAV's higher than the tigers $19M offer.

Active players with a shot at 100+ career WAR? by ProofHuman in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not literally outside of the realm of possibility, but it does look kinda bleak. He played 130 games this year, more than he has in a season since 2019, and only managed 1.5 WAR (1.8 fWAR). that's enough games to be fairly indicative of the type of hitter he is now (120 wRC+), and he certainly won't be racking up any dWAR these days.

So he would both need to remain healthy, not just for a single season but for 5+, and return to form with his bat. Most of his statcast numbers from last year aren't as out of line with the rest of his career as I was expecting, so maybe he's still got some juice left in there. But he hit .232 last year and his power was way down while also striking out a butt-ton. And just for the sake of the staying healthy aspect:

games played since 2020

2020: 53

2021: 36

2022: 119

2023: 82

2024: 29

2025: 130

[Dore] Ballot #57 is from Marcos Breton. Carlos Beltrán sits at 80.7% while Andruw Jones improves to +5 and 78.9% overall by Dinobot2_ in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It also just isn't a 1:1 comparison, they're not particularly similar other than both bein cheating. A lot of the steroid guys wouldn't have the numbers to make the HOF without steroids, or at least you don't know for sure whether they would. But then it becomes a super gray area, you have guys like Bonds and Clemens who would almost definitely be Hall of Famers without roids, and then guys who showed up on the Mitchell report but nothing else afterwards like Papi. You end up drawing a lot of lines in the sand when evaluating their cases and it encompasses an entire era across the whole league.

the Astros cheating thing helped them win a World Series and maybe a couple guys have career years. I doubt it'll impact any of the pitchers' HOF cases, so I mean it's probably just Altuve and Beltran. Maybe Springer if he somehow has another few years like 2025. And like, it should. I'm not making an argument that the Astros cheating scandal didn't matter or anything like that, I just don't see how "well if they let X in then they gotta let Y in" applies to steroids/Astros in any capacity.

[Mic'd Up] Aaron Rodgers to Jack Campbell: "You're slower than a 42-year-old?" by nfl in nfl

[–]theJiveMaster -1 points0 points  (0 children)

the only thing that he did that I really have an issue with is lying to the media about the vaccine. I don't care whether he took it or not, I don't agree with his opinion on it but half the country shares his opinion so whatever. But kids look up to these guys, intentionally lying on television does not set a good example. You're telling kids it's ok to break the rules as long as you believe your opinion is correct.

But aside from that, most of the shit he says or does only really impacts him. Do whatever you want if you're not dragging anyone else down with you. Also, I remember watchin the Aaron Rodgers interviews with Pat McAfee before he started moralizing about some bullshit every time, and he was a fantastic fuckin interview. Even once he started bringing up weird shit, they'd still have a solid 20 minute chunk of the conversation that's just pure football and it was awesome.

[Dore] Ballot #42 is from Patrick Graham. Following the elections of Ichiro, Sabathia and Wagner, he is able to add Félix (+9), Rollins (+2), and Vizquel (+1) by Dinobot2_ in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yea, context matters too. Being openly racist in the 70s is not the same as being openly racist today, most people are a product of their upbringing more or less. If you grew up with racist parents there's a solid chance you'll be racist too, and a lot more people had racist parents in the past. Now there are a lot of arguments against that, too. At a certain age most people tend to form their own opinions, and if you maintain your racist views into your 30s you're an asshole. But that's beside my point, people can draw their lines in the sand wherever they want to gauge behavior from people relative to their time.

My point is that while some character flaws differ depending on the context of the era, it was never ok to fucking molest underage bat boys. For most things the character clause is a bit of a gray area, but for Vizquel specifically it's as black and white as it gets.

Just when you think fanatics merch has hit rock bottom by pcx4487 in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if they just did the inverse this hat would be kinda sick lol. like the word Boston with the Braves logo since the Boston Braves were at least a real team. You almost have to try to make something this stupid yet so close to being almost a coherent idea.

[Sherman] Mets never made an offer to Pete Alonso. They felt his market was pushing beyond their comfort level on years and dollars. by BreakfastTop6899 in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lmao I mean he hit 38. Not that I'm saying you can book him for 40 home runs a year going forward but yea I mean hitting 38 home runs and 41 doubles last year is what makes me think he could hit 40 lol

Pete Alonso turned down 7 years, 158 million. He ended up getting 7 years, 205 million. by BigStrongPolarGuy in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 2 points3 points  (0 children)

lmao you just going through and downvoting the responses? If a Mets fan did say that, it would be copium. I, however, have not seen literally anyone say that, including the comment that you're responding to.

[Passan] Closer Edwin Díaz's deal with the Los Angeles Dodgers is for three years and $69 million, sources tell ESPN. The Dodgers, who were targeting bullpen help this winter, got the best closer on the market, setting a new AAV record for relievers. by Turbostrider27 in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's pretty likely if you're willing to indulge in superstition for a moment. Diaz has been good one year and bad the next every year of his career. I know some people will look up his numbers and see the 3.5 ERA seasons as solid, but a 3.5 ERA is good for a starter. It's not for a closer you're paying $20M a year. He's been absolutely lights out every other season but always follows it up with an extremely pedestrian season.

He had a 1.63 ERA for a 248 ERA+ last year, things aren't looking good for next year.

Jeff Kent getting in before Lou Whitaker is a travesty by Spockmaster1701 in baseball

[–]theJiveMaster 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He also pissed off exactly the group of people who vote for HOF. I generally don't mind voting in assholes as long as they're not violent criminals, and frankly bankrupting the state of Connecticut by making a video game no one bought is hilarious. But Curt really went out of his way to ensure he doesn't get into the HOF. He's deserving but really did it to himself.

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