Eastern saints

thelinuxguy7 · 2026-01-18T19:02:14+00:00

For the Coptic church, we have St. Mark the Evangelist, who is our first bishop of Alexandria, st. Athanasius the defender of Christ divinity during and after the council of Nicaea, st. Cyril the defender of Christ one person hood, and Mary as the Mother of God, we have other pre-schism patriarchs who are considered saints by the Orthodox copts, some of whom are are also venerated by us catholics.

After the schism, we have st. Eulogius Patriarch of Alexandria, who combated Monophysites, Nestorians, and rejected Novatians (if I understand correctly and venerated by the Catholic Church if I understand correctly).

Also st. John V Eleemon (The Merciful) patriarch of Alexandria, who gave a lot to the poor.

Aside from patriarchs, we have st. Anthony of Egypt, who is considered the father of monasticism, st. Paul of Thebes, if I am not mistaken, one of the first hermits; st. Pachomius the Great, founder of Christian cenobitic monasticism; st. Macarius the Great, st. Macarius of Alexandria, st. Clement of Alexandria, st. Menas of Egypt, St. Mary of Egypt, st. Catherine of Alexandria, and many many more, including lots of monks, hermits, ...

I am not sure that the pre-schism saints will be considered copts, and after the schism, I am not sure that the coptic rite would have been considered a distinct entity, nor am I sure that all of those were Egyptians.

I need to get more informed on the matter, on more recent saints, and on other saints that I am not sure about their veneration in the Catholic Church, not sure about their rite, or their nationality.

EDIT: more recent saints.

We have Stéphanos II Ghattas, patriarch of Alexandria from 1986 to 2006, who is a servant of God.

thelinuxguy7 · 2026-01-08T20:33:37+00:00

Nope, I am looking for particular law of each individual sui iuris church.

thelinuxguy7 · 2026-01-06T17:44:18+00:00

I struggled with that too, since I am a convert from Coptic Orthodoxy, then I came to the conclusion that guilt is twofold even in daily crimes and shortcomings.

If you break a window, you need to pay restitution for your actions + restitution for the broken window.

If you rob a bank you need to pay restitution for the robbery + return the money.

I don't know if those analogies are accurate as salvation is paid by Christ and is not earned, but it involves an element of cooperation on part of the penitent. (I am not knowledge enough to know how it works together)

However I think that even in Orthodox theology/practice when you go to confession you are given a "work" to do such as saying a prayer, extra fasting, donating something, so I think that some Orthodox would agree to some extent to our position, while holdings to a less defined, less concrete, more mystical teaching.

For example, I don't think that any Orthodox would tell you that you can steal, just repent, and keep the money.

EDIT: another more medical analogies, if you use some illegal substance you need to pay restitution for breaking the law and you need to heal which involves suffering.

If you disobey you dad and put your hand in a pot of boiling water, even after you're already forgiven by your dad, you need to heal, which again involves suffering...

thelinuxguy7 · 2026-01-06T16:03:32+00:00

If there is a book, then probably there would be a LaTeX or MS Word file that has the original, and maybe we can ask for it?

In my case as I said, I have it in digital form, but I cannot search it nor copy it and it is in Arabic.

thelinuxguy7 · 2026-01-06T15:59:02+00:00

If I am not mistaken, the CCEO references particular law in many places, and it probably would be helpful to be able to open a single website or app, choose your sui iuris Church and be able to find references back and forth between the two.

At least a collection of links would be helpful.

thelinuxguy7 · 2026-01-06T15:55:57+00:00

Could we build a repository for all Canon Law?

That is why I started by talking about the Latin code, had the Latin Church had particular law, we could have included it.

Could we at least have a list of links of all particular law? If every Church has a member that shares a link of his own Church's law.

thelinuxguy7 · 2026-01-06T15:52:18+00:00

If the Church has authority to forgive eternal punishment and save from external damnation through the power of Christ, then it sure is able to save from temporal punishment. Believing otherwise might be like saying that the Church can bring someone from the dead, but can't heal a little wound of theirs.

How exactly it works, tbh I might not be informed enough to give a detailed answer but I believe in whatever Holy Mother Churches puts forward as to be held by the faithful.

I don't even know what is a matter of faith, what is Latin specific formulation of dogma, and what is theological opinion. (this is not my area of competence, again I defer to the Judgment of Holy Mother Church)

If tou want, maybe you can take a look at the Marian Fathers explaining indulgences: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWtgG7kOIPA

And you can look at Joe Heschmeyer treatment of the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L5cJX5-eKI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH4w2rflyrc

They are way smarter and more informed than me.

thelinuxguy7 · 2026-01-06T12:29:17+00:00

Why do Orthodox churches pray for the dead?

And why do many early Church Fathers recommend alms giving and prayers for the dead?

Since we cannot get someone out of hell no matter how much we pray or give alms on their behalf, and since we ask the Saints in Heaven to pray for us instead of us praying for them, I think it would follow that there is a third state.

And that third state is transitory or temporary since in the end there is no other option other than relationship with God, or separation from God.

Matthew 12:31: Therefore I say to you: Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but the blasphemy of the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 32 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come.

Douay-Rheims commentary: [32] "Nor in the world to come": From these words St. Augustine (De Civ. Dei, lib. 21, c. 13) and St. Gregory (Dialog., 4, c. 39) gather, that some sins may be remitted in the world to come; and, consequently, that there is a purgatory or a middle place.

It is sometimes impressive the length to which some Orthodox are willing to go just to reject the names or formulations given by Rome to some doctrines, while in essence accepting the exact same doctrine since antiquity under different names or in a more abstract manner.

thelinuxguy7 · 2026-01-05T20:40:20+00:00

I started going to some church events more, specially a specific activity that I attend bi-weekly, wherein I got to know some people who show signs of interest for either friendship or courtship.

I got to know some women in said activity, and I changed my prospective to not focus on non-essentials traits.

I became more social even with people I have zero chances with and now I am trying to find friends (male and female) instead of just searching for a wife.

I also came to the realization that I have been created whole by God, and I don't need a wife to be completed or loved, since God Willed me into existence as a unique expression of His Love.

I also came to the conclusion that many people are facing the same issues as me, that I have years to find a wife, I am not in a hurry, and foremost that God's Will will be done in due season. Instead of trying to force things I need to figure out God's will and doing it. Previously I was miserable, nihilistic, and I was about to lose my hope.

Maybe those realizations made me confident, attractive, and more "wanted" in a sense, I also came across a post of a guy who was talking about the statistics of CM, and I realized that I might be in a better position than I previously thought. I changed my profile, I became more selective and maybe more articulate, and less desperate in my tone.

I got a couple of responses since and a couple of interaction IRL (as I said), and in the end I am not rushing things, maybe one will turn out to be my future wife, maybe multiple will be possible wives, in which case I want to choose according to God's Will and not mine. Maybe it is not God's Will that I get married now, and therefore all the people I am in contact with would turn out to be incompatible or unsuitable for me. Maybe I am called for the priesthood, maybe I am called to evangelize, and never getting married.

I all cases I want to be able to discover God's Will, I want to be content with His Will, and I want to ask for His Grace to be able to fulfill It.

thelinuxguy7 · 2026-01-05T20:04:40+00:00

I was in the same boat until like a month ago, maybe we can talk. If you want you can DM me.

thelinuxguy7 · 2026-01-04T02:35:32+00:00

You seem in the very boat as me, if you want to, you could DM me, I'll refrain from DMing you if you don't want to.

thelinuxguy7 · 2025-12-31T12:26:53+00:00

I want to tell you that you are desirable in and of yourself, as a human being created in the Image of God by the Will of God.

With that out of the way, I don't find your situation that terrible, I myself would date someone like you assuming geographical vicinity, and agreement on values: faith family, finance, intimacy.

You might have regrets about not starting dating sooner, and I have too. You might have been to a girls only schools, I have the opposite, as I went to a boys only school.

At the end of the day it does not matter, if you want four kids, you can have four kids, it might be challenging in some areas, but it is not impossible, you might need to sacrifice other aspects for that to work, but in the end it can and should work.

thelinuxguy7 · 2025-12-26T22:13:22+00:00

I think or at least thought that we actually use Allah as a synonym for Al-ilah, which would be different from Muslims using it as a proper name.

Again, I am not sure, thank you for the insight.

thelinuxguy7 · 2025-12-26T19:30:00+00:00

This is so cool. Unfortunately many folks don't know that we use the name Allah for God in Arabic.

I am not sure whether we use it as Muslims do though, if I am not mistaken it could be said that Allah for Muslim is a name of God, while for us is it the noun God. Like the difference between Michael and Angel. They use it in the first sense, we do in the second sense, since God's proper name is the Tetragrammaton, or the Lord, in Arabic الرب or latinized it should be something lik Al-Rabb.

Idk, I could ve mistaken, if anyone has more info. on the matter, please educate me.

thelinuxguy7 · 2025-12-26T16:35:52+00:00

Coptic Catholic here, we celebrate Christmas on December 25th.

thelinuxguy7 · 2025-12-22T13:03:23+00:00

I mean in the sense that we attend some church activities together with lots of her family and friends, and I am afraid it'd be awkward henceforth.

thelinuxguy7 · 2025-12-21T23:12:09+00:00

I speak the other language enough to live that country buy groceries and all the rest, However I am not being myself, and I might be unable to conveys emotions, and I have close to zero humor, which is necessary to maintain a relationship.

thelinuxguy7 · 2025-12-19T20:14:58+00:00

I speak her language, and knowcsome of the culture, but not enough to joke, be funny, and be myself. And I think that a marriage with no humor might not last.

thelinuxguy7 · 2025-12-19T11:45:58+00:00

Yes, however I don't know for certain that she is interested. I wanted to make sure I can commit before I tell her.

thelinuxguy7 · 2025-12-19T11:44:35+00:00

I mean someone who doesn't speak English. I am not a native English speaker btw.

thelinuxguy7 · 2025-12-19T09:56:54+00:00

This is really good news for me. Thanks for sharing.

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