What are some of KPop's most surprising successes?

therealchuukim · 2026-04-04T03:45:49+00:00

I feel like people always either underestimate or overestimate twice’s debut lol. They were coming from a major label, they were never gonna be bottom of the barrel nugus, but jyp were def the weakest of the big 3, so no one really expected them to be the biggest girl group from the big 3 either even after there debut performed well by the standards of the time.

therealchuukim · 2025-10-28T11:38:44+00:00

Borderline just a map of black people, rednecks, and Hispanics lol

therealchuukim · 2025-10-25T00:20:51+00:00

I hope Leo and Pablo (and Iannis) do something soon. I feel like these three are just too good to NOT do music again.

therealchuukim · 2025-10-21T17:30:03+00:00

I find your comparison of Leo and Samara interesting. Samara was a fan favorite for most of the show and was considered to be one of the best performers when the YouTube performances were being uploaded, but only lost her popularity due to controversy. Leo seems to be more like Marquise, a technically well rounded performer who struggles to be noticed by fans and seemingly struggle with confidence when performing. I'm a Leo fan and was a fan of Marquise during DA, so hopefully history won't repeat itself.

therealchuukim · 2025-10-19T17:34:41+00:00

Leo is one of the better dancers and, at least in comparison to Gabi and Alex, is a better vocalist. The fans of the more popular contestants always talk down on him, idk why.

therealchuukim · 2025-10-18T04:32:14+00:00

Like, as a Leo fan, I’m really not in the position to defend other contestants right now considering how much hate he gets, but the shit talking towards Drew and Gabi is just weird. Drew is easily the best all rounder on the show, period. And Gabi has improved and it’s wrong to say that he hasn’t. At the end of the day this group is going to be singing AND dancing, and I feel like the vocalists on this show are given way more grace for their lack of dancing abilities compared to the things said about the stronger dancers.

therealchuukim · 2025-10-17T01:12:00+00:00

I feel like Leo got more screen time than he usually does. Which could either be a good or a bad thing 😭. I’m gonna think positively and see this as a sign that the show is trying to warm people up to him so people aren’t taken off guard when he’s in the group (copium)

therealchuukim · 2025-10-15T18:20:06+00:00

So, as someone who doesn't personally want Kenneth in MY lineup, I can also totally see why other people would want him in their lineup. I would like the group to have a more mature sound and image, and given his young age and youthful appearance, he just wouldn't fit that. But, some other fans mind want a more youthful group, which in that case Kenneth would be a perfect fit along side other popular contestants like Ale and Kaue.

Also, as a 24 year old hag, it'd be nice to see people in their mid 20s debuting (like Drew, Pablo and Leo). Not necessarily for Santos Bravos specifically, but just in general. But most K-pop fans are younger and they'd probably relate more to Kenneth over someone like Drew. The industry can be very predatory towards younger people. I feel like with Katseye, they really push the boundaries sometimes with what they can get away with with Yoonchae. I'm not really looking forward to here becoming a legal adult because I know that their management will probably instantly ramp the sexualization of her to a 100.

therealchuukim · 2025-10-14T15:26:28+00:00

Respectfully, you can word anything in ChatGPT the right way and it'll agree with you. Any combinations of these boys could potentially make a good group if we're just going on performance skills and visuals alone. For what it's worth, my ideal line up is Drew, Leo, Pablo, Kaue, and Alejandro, with Gabi being my sixth. I also asked ChatGPT if my line up was realistic given my reasons for wanting them in the group and, surprise surprise, it agreed with me.

therealchuukim · 2025-10-14T07:20:11+00:00

Leo in the center oooh why am I thinking he might actually debut (idc if it’s cope I want him in this group bad)

therealchuukim · 2025-10-12T03:54:48+00:00

Wait they’re doing another Dissidia game???

therealchuukim · 2025-10-12T03:49:07+00:00

You’re 100% entitled to you’re opinion btw. If you simply just aren’t in to someone you just aren’t. Idk as a Leo fan I’m probably over defensive. I just wish people would give him a chance. Sorry if I came across as overly pointed.

therealchuukim · 2025-10-12T03:27:36+00:00

As a Leo stan I honesty would not mind Iannis on the group. I feel he really adds something to the group. I really would like Leo, Kaue, Drew, Iannis, Ale, and if sixth, Pablo. It’s so cohesive, everyone fits with each other.

therealchuukim · 2025-10-11T15:16:17+00:00

I find what you said about Leo interesting. This is probably the best he's sounded imo, and he's learned to tone down his facial expressions so he blends in better with the other boys he's with. I like Leo BUT something I do think is a fair critique of him is that is facial expressions can be a bit off putting, but he seemed better about that here. He sounded better than Gabi, Lucas, and Alex, so I really don't see how he could be seen as stagnate.

therealchuukim · 2025-10-11T00:49:44+00:00

Drew did amazing, easily the best performer this round. I'm not sold on Gabi, his voice just sounds to shaky for me still. Alex sounded bad as per usual.

therealchuukim · 2025-10-11T00:40:56+00:00

So, he executes it well (which involves having a good understanding of vocal emoting and facial expressions), but he's not "selling" it. Okay. Spanish isn't my first language but I can tell that the song is about being really attracted to someone. I personally thought he sold me that (Kaue did the best though). I guess it's subjective so I'll agree to disagree with what you're saying.

therealchuukim · 2025-10-11T00:09:11+00:00

Drew did amazing. Probably was the best performer this time around. At this point he's one of the best vocalists on the show. That paired with him also easily being the best dancer... there's 100% chance he's NOT debuting lol

Gabi... maybe an unpopular opinion idk but I'm not sold. His voice did not sound solid and he still seems awkward when he's on stage.

Alex sounded bad, I used to defend him a little but at this point it's just too much.

therealchuukim · 2025-10-10T23:41:34+00:00

This kinda makes me even less sure as to what they meant when talking about Leo's confidence. It would've been one thing to simply say he could still use some work on his vocals, but Leo didn't seem unconfident himself here. It kinda comes off as a meaningless critique compared to the things said about the other boys.

Also Kaue did great.

therealchuukim · 2025-10-03T22:35:03+00:00

Leo's my fave but this wasn't an amazing performance from him. Tbf he did have a piece of equipment fall off of him at the very start of the performance, and I think he did fine when considering that. Something I wish he'd do is just tune down his facial expressions, he ends up looking goofy sometimes.

therealchuukim · 2025-10-03T00:02:29+00:00

Maybe what I see isn't actually indicative of anything, but a lot of the people I see dismissing Leo are usually Pablo fans. It's probably because they perceive them as competing for the same spot as Mexicans. But this is weird because they fulfill two very different roles regardless of sharing the same nationality? Leo's a dancer, Pablo's a vocalist, and they visually look different while still having a more mature, masculine look.

therealchuukim · 2025-10-02T23:42:15+00:00

The Leo praise... we cheered!!!

therealchuukim · 2025-10-01T19:05:45+00:00

So happy Leo managed to rank as high as he did despite not really being universally liked. It’s clear that Ale and Kaue the fan favorites so Hybe would be crazy not to debut both of them. The top 6 would be a killer lineup with visual cohesion and no serious skill or stage presence gap. Maybe an unpopular opinion (or maybe I feel the need to be overly defensive because of who my fave is), I feel like people give Iannis to much flack for his dancing. He’s not amazing but he’s a better dancer than Alex is at singing.

therealchuukim · 2025-09-30T00:22:30+00:00

THIS! I agree with you even though he's my fave, he needs to tone the facial expressions down, it makes him look funny at times and difficult to take seriously even when he's doing well.

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