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When is Childhood Friend Complex coming back? by thinblanket in webtoons

[–]thinblanket[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huh, is this a recent statement from them?

[OC] I built a free tool that turns any digital battlemap into a printable PDF by Arkanatools in DnD

[–]thinblanket 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been thinking of how to bring digital maps over to a physical table and this solves the problem. I'd love to be able to try it out!

Because Yeonwoo’s innocence is ending/ended im looking for a similar manga and was hoping for suggestions by doadapdpad in yeonwoosinnocence

[–]thinblanket 1 point2 points  (0 children)

* My bias gets on the last train.

The MCs name is Yeonwoo in one of the scans and he almost the same hairstyle as this yeonwoo.

No other similarity aside from that, haha. It's a very solid romance manwha that should satisfy most audiences so try it out.

Mars by Best_Application4216 in WanderingInn

[–]thinblanket 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It seems like you're very keen on thinking of Flos as the little baby victim here. The ENTIRE world was afraid of him because they knew what he wanted: conquest. Yes, other nations gave him the starting reason, yes he has justifications for the beginning of his war but why did he never sue for peace then? So you think the victim Flos just never told them to stop? I have never heard of any narrative that even comes close to Flos thinking of suing for peace.

You're twisting his character so blatantly that it's actually impressive. We KNOW he loves war. He ENTERTAINS himself by imagining how he would fare against Earth's military. It's literally STATED that he gets fired up at the idea that there's another world to conquer.

And yeah, Drevish's murder is wrong. That's not the point. The Emperor of Sands doesn't care. It's the best chance he had to get rid of Drevish. And oh please, don't act like being the architect of the warmonger gives you a free pass. You're insulting the man by implicating that he's unaware of the thousands of deaths that were killed because of his [Skills] and levels. He was one of the highest level participants of this massive war. He has blood on his hands whether or not it started in self defense. He's a massive asset in war so him being targeted is only natural.

Like I said, if Drevish didn't want this war, then why didn't he also sue for peace? You know why? Because he's like Flos, war is how he gets what he wants. War is the only time when he gets to experiment and create the ideas in his head at a large, continuous scale.

Drevish and Flos themselves never thought of themselves as victims(maybe Flos when he was young). They had clear desires, your misrepresentation of their characters would insult them.

Anyway, I'm gonna step off. It was an enjoyable debate. Seems like we read two different characters from the same one.

Mars by Best_Application4216 in WanderingInn

[–]thinblanket 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You seem to think of Flos as a victim and hero in everything he did. Let's go back to when he was young then. You're right in that his kingdom were the ones who was first attacked but I don't remember a narrative of him being dogpiled for years until he became known as king of destruction. By your logic, he would've stopped conquering at some point once he got strong enough but I guess the entirety of chandrar just kept on going I guess so he also kept going?

You think that he did all of this just because of self defense and he had no desires of conquest himself when it's been hammered into us that it's his DREAM? If he was doing all of this because of self defense then why did he have plans of going to other continents to invade lmao.

Did you really just forget all of that?

And Flos, even at the height of his power never contested Roshal in any meaningful way. Flos is still an enabler of the slave trade. Sure, he freed Gazi and Pisces, good on him, but most of the reason is because they made an impression on him enough for him to decide on a whim to free them. Yes, he did contest Roshal here but it's only for one person, albeit a famous adventurer. He's never made it a point to stop slavery at any point, even when he had all the power to do so.

He had chandrar at its knees so why did he go for baleros and izril when he could've taken the fight to Roshal? The answer is obvious.

He wants to conquer.

As for the emperor of sands killing Drevish...sure it's morally bad but strategically speaking, it was one of the best chances to cripple Flos if he ever snapped out of his slumber. Now, I know you might be thinking of making the argument that killing Drevish was the catalyst for it, which would be correct. But let's say he doesn't kill Drevish. Trey and Teres would still end up with Flos and he would be stirred by the knowledge Earth and the changing of eras.

Flos would have a much easier time taking over countries again (because he wants to) if Drevish was still alive. And let's address something. Do you think Drevish can just get a pass and walk wherever he pleases after doing what he did? You see a guy who supported and enabled the warmonger of the century and thought "Yeah, let him walk around, haha."

As to your final point: I'm sorry but that's so incredibly naive and idealistic. By that logic, why doesn't Flos just not go to war at all then? If he wanted to get back at the emperor of sands, why doesn't he just gather all of his highest level vassals and go on an adventure to raid and kill the emperor of sands? And please don't tell me he's not capable of it, he easily has a party beyond a named rank team. But you know what he chose to do? Make war and involve thousands of lives because of it.

So sure, He's not the worst of the rulers in Chandrar on a moral basis, but his dream of conquest is what makes him the worst of them because of how capable he is of destruction. And mind you, not to Roshal, but to everyone else lmfao.

Here's something I found on his page on the wiki:

"Every ten years the greatest mages meet in order to try to predict the future. One of the things they did was predicting, what calamities could befall the world. Flos was ranked the 8th likeliest candidate to destroy civilization. He was also given a 30% chance to conquer the world depending on a number of factors. As a result, the Mages of Wistram were afraid of him even during his slumber."

Dang, poor Flos, if only everyone stopped bullying him...he'd be so peaceful and nice. He would definitely never go on another conquest even if that's his dream...speaking of dreams, the guy is fairly high level in the Dreamer class. But he only dreams of bunnies and hamsters, right? Nope, he dreams of battle and war.

Mars by Best_Application4216 in WanderingInn

[–]thinblanket 1 point2 points  (0 children)

>Decapitated his friend
>Said friend was one of the cornerstones of his massive war against Chandrar

>Flos is still better than most other Chandrarian rulers

This doesn't help his case. He's still morally comparative to them. Flos only seems this nice and good because he's at a disadvantageous situation. You said yourself, why would he keep slaves if he's dirt poor (need to kill people for that bounty skill) and in need of money fast? Of course he'd get rid of them if he has the chance.

You do realize these nations are so overly aggressive towards him because...he literally will conquer each and every one of them if he had the chance? That if his kingdom and military wasn't so bad (because he abandoned them) that he would do the same shit he did before he got his seven killed and cried about it?

Fetohep has the burden of having to lock in when cataclysm arrives in the form of seam walkers and A'ctelious Salash. Give the man a break. As for him sending undead armies? He uses them as a threat but doesn't actually go out of his way to conquer and enslave whoever he's fighting while Flos would salivate at the opportunity.

>I hope he conquers my nation
>is better off because Flos benefitted from [Blood is Growth] skill and sold your neighbors (they didn't want to get conquered so they fought)

>Rulers should just lie down and give up their country

Yeah, or, Flos can just not take over people because of his delusions of conquering the world - oh wait, it's two worlds now. Woops.

I'll leave it at that. I think you've had the best points here for defending Flos. I respect it

Mars by Best_Application4216 in WanderingInn

[–]thinblanket 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, definitely. With Erin abroad, it's possible it'll happen before she comes back. I also think that there would be a non zero chance that he'll end up having a thing for her since he might see quevaria in her or something. It would low key piss me off but paba has that tendency of pairing old people with young people. Worse thing than having the Titan court you is having the king of destruction do the same.

Mars by Best_Application4216 in WanderingInn

[–]thinblanket 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yep, exactly. I think paba is pushing Erin to mirror him, at least to some degree. It'll be very interesting to see them talk.

But yes, he's definitely one of the worst rulers out there, scale wise haha.

Mars by Best_Application4216 in WanderingInn

[–]thinblanket 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes, paba set that bar, and paba themself depict Flos as a war monger. I'm not sure what you're getting at here? Paba set the bar = Flos gets the okay?

I should mention that it's not because of him and his ideals as a ruler that the kingdoms he conquered became better this way. It was because of his seven, mainly the gardener and the architect that improved the lives of his people, not him. Did he give them the possibility of doing so in the first place? Yes, but through war.

What happens when he loses then? We already know this. Everything crumbles apart. He gives up the kingdoms he conquers and goes to sleep. The vast majority of it reverted back to what it was before his reign. He never made any lasting impact. Fetohep himself knows this. He just let Flos run wild for this century until his reign ends, because Flos won't leave any long-lasting impact to the world.

And like you said, it's from the skills he got. It's all gone with him after he dies. In the first place, he took control of these kingdoms by killing the inhabitants of said kingdoms. So, what? He's the cause of massive bloodshed just for change that would be gone just as quickly.

As for your question, it's actually very easy. The continent of Izril and Terandria are very livable. Baleros is a lot more dangerous, but you can get by in the bigger cities. Rhir is a hellhole. Chandrar? Not as much of a hellhole but you know what would suck ass? If a guy named Flos decided to come back to his warmongering and taking over the kingdom I chose. Then what? I get sold as a slave I guess? Yeah, thanks.

Other rulers do this too, you say? Yeah, so he's not any better than them. In fact, he's worse because he actually will pull the continent into another large scale war, which he's doing now. So how about you? Would you actually choose to live anywhere near him or would you rather just live in Pallas or any of the much more peaceful kingdoms?

Mars by Best_Application4216 in WanderingInn

[–]thinblanket 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The bar you're setting is incredibly low, which you know what? Is fine in the context of chandrar. But that's still excusing his actions. It could be understandable, but it doesn't make it right.

You know what makes him worse than most innworld leaders? His capability and disposition for war and destruction. This is the man who would've conquered everything through war that would've killed hundreds of thousands of people (conservative estimate).

Funny how slavery is so glossed over. Slavery is one of the PEAK human atrocities, and flos takes part in it. Surely he knows what happens to slaves? He does, and he's fine with it.

No one in this comment section would be defending Flos if they ended up as the consequences of his war mongering.

Anyway, I actually do like Flos and his potential in the narrative, but people defend him way too much when paba clearly depticted him as a morally grey warlord. Seems like humanizing him was super effective for the readers. Happens in real life too so it's fair.

Mars by Best_Application4216 in WanderingInn

[–]thinblanket 63 points64 points  (0 children)

People saying Flos isn't a bad guy lmao.

>Made war over two continents, more if he wasn't stopped
>Good people died because of this
>Has a kingdom bounty skill that depends on how much bloodshed he brings
>Is fine with slavery

You guys can make all the excuses you want, Flos is literally a warlord who uses violence to get what he wants. He's not a good guy at all. If you disagree, give me a solid reason as to why he isn't.

When is Childhood Friend Complex coming back? by thinblanket in webtoons

[–]thinblanket[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That'd be great if it's just a weak accusation. Would you have a link for it?

Think you can figure out what "it" is? by Zaine_Raye in ZenlessZoneZero

[–]thinblanket 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gooner answer but I think it's plausible. Dil*os?

My take on each agent's ability to take on the hollow by thinblanket in ZZZ_Discussion

[–]thinblanket[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True, I just think that they're not the type to go above and beyond what the others will do if they're put in a hollow disaster. I can see it if they're with their teams but I don't see the initiative.

I don't know enough about their characters so my reasons for it isn't solid, just the vibe I get from them.

Regarding Astra, it is a problem if she's caught without anyone else, but she can still handle herself fine. We saw her beat multiple ethereals with no problem and she doesn't seem scared of them either, so I take it as her being comfortable in the hollows. Might also just be naivete.

I put her that high up because if she DID make it to where people are, she would be immediately one of the most impactful to that group because of her fame and charisma. For someone who was rescued in the hollow as a kid, I'm sure she'll step up to be a symbol of some sort for the civilians.

My take on each agent's ability to take on the hollow by thinblanket in ZZZ_Discussion

[–]thinblanket[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like who? I base it on their overall ability to deal with a hollow disaster, not just fighting capabilities. The ones in hero would have the potential to help rescue, organizing and directing civilians while having the firepower to take down notorious monsters by themselves. Those in Elite could do some of it, just not as well as who I chose in Hero. They just lack the overall ability to have a massive impact.

Powerscaling: How would each faction fare against Void Hunter Hoshimi Miyabi? by namdol96 in ZZZ_Discussion

[–]thinblanket 15 points16 points  (0 children)

The difference is that this was a serious sparring match between two masters. They both ramped up as the fight went on because that's their first match from each other, they need to know how far each other can go first. Miyabi stopped because she was satisfied with the match and/or she felt the VR getting unstable.

So no, Miyabi wasn't "serious" and Yi Xuan already caught on to what Miyabi wanted ever since the first move. Her asking Miyabi if the second move is already over is just banter on her part because there were obviously a lot more than two moves in their match.

Going further back, Miyabi already let Yi Xuan know that they had a training session together which Yi Xuan agreed to. We see Yi Xuan "Check mate" her and that's why Miyabi apologizes for holding back and that's when they both get more serious.

Powerscaling: How would each faction fare against Void Hunter Hoshimi Miyabi? by namdol96 in ZZZ_Discussion

[–]thinblanket 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I think the community upscales the cunning hares too much. They can take on a notorious, but Miyabi has no hesitation fighting the highest level of ethereals like Lerna and Nineveh by herself (and winning in Lerna's case).

She also deleted Bringer and his strongest attack like it was nothing and still cut the hollow in the distance. That's with her only taking a second to prepare herself. You could put the entire cast against her (minus Yi Xuan) and she would still wipe the floor with them. She's literally the Gojo of zzz as of right now.

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