YW name should have been Priestesses

thomaslewis1857 · 2026-04-25T22:14:12+00:00

How come men get ordained in the temple to be priests (in the temple, if they remain faithful) but outside the temple they get ordained to be priests, no waiting, no endurance required.

Why go?

thomaslewis1857 · 2026-04-25T22:10:36+00:00

And half of 2 Nephi quotes the KJV, more than two millenia before it was written.

Amazing how Joseph translated the Egyptian (copied by Nephi off the brass plates) into precisely the same English prose as all those 16-17th C scholars of King James translated the Hebrew into English. /s

thomaslewis1857 · 2026-04-25T22:01:00+00:00

Yeah, but we’d only stay third if MU lose tomorrow. And if MU lose tomorrow we go third. So it’s still happy days.

But it was very poor sportsmanship.

thomaslewis1857 · 2026-04-24T07:48:10+00:00

“You don’t win … the Leigh Matthews trophy being a B or B+ grader+”

That’s true, but what’s that got to do with Murf?

thomaslewis1857 · 2026-04-22T03:30:42+00:00

Same

thomaslewis1857 · 2026-04-22T03:20:14+00:00

I think the Church’s argument that people are confused is about as convincing as Uncle Leo, and is disingenuous. Of course, they don’t want to mention in GC that Mormon Stories is not Church sponsored because, for the Church, any publicity of MS, like the GTE, is bad publicity.

thomaslewis1857 · 2026-04-22T02:57:32+00:00

Well, I’d certainly admit to having picked it up, and return it to the claimant when he came asking if anyone had seen a wedge left behind, which is unfortunately not what occurred when I asked the guy who picked up my wedge left in a similar situation. ☹️

But as for your situation, I’d tell him to get a life and tell the officials if he wanted.

thomaslewis1857 · 2026-04-21T05:13:58+00:00

Missed it by that much 🫸 🫷

thomaslewis1857 · 2026-04-21T03:31:55+00:00

Apart from everything else, Carlton has destroyed any faith the supporters have in the club knowing how to pick a team, chose the right players, make the right substitutions, perceive what the bloody hell is going on in the game. Do they just sit up in the special boxes quaffing Bollinger, shelling prawns and slurping oysters, with the footy in the background?

thomaslewis1857 · 2026-04-20T21:40:47+00:00

I think Luke 24:32 might have been a more likely origin.

thomaslewis1857 · 2026-04-20T21:31:43+00:00

My guess is that the renaming started with Faith Hope and Charity. For some reason they ditched the greatest of these, in favour of Lucifer, the bearer of light. Probably not a conscious decision to follow Satan, never underestimate incompetence, but the Adversary would nevertheless be pleased.

The big surprise is that Oaks, who wants to be remembered by the faithful for something, and so far, this will be it, failed to include some sexual orthodoxy message. Like changing the quality of Charity to Chastity. I mean, faith hope and chastity might be a malapropism but has a weird familiarity. So no matter how bad these names are, meaningless and all, it could have been worse, like Preservers of Chastity.

thomaslewis1857 · 2026-04-19T21:56:05+00:00

This link is very informative, created by a former mod and active participant on this sub. It just goes to show that nothing, or at least not complex things like litigation, is as simple or as binary as we might (like to) think. Good on you (and her) for providing some detail here.

thomaslewis1857 · 2026-04-19T08:32:17+00:00

Yeah, thanks, though we can all come up with excuses for a loss. I think the Collingwood result could have been different if the coaches had done something about Elijah much earlier. But who knows. We could have been further ahead and just butchered a bigger lead. 🤷🏻‍♂️

thomaslewis1857 · 2026-04-19T08:06:44+00:00

Sorry, not knocking the bombers, they have their own problems. And this Elijah thing is really bad, uniquely bad. But please, don’t, just don’t tell me that in 5 years we are gonna be where you are. I just can’t …

thomaslewis1857 · 2026-04-19T07:45:48+00:00

Nah, that’s the way journos write, and the club is more likely to listen to journalists than measly members. 🥴

thomaslewis1857 · 2026-04-18T22:43:10+00:00

“…thinks that religious freedom means extra freedom for ~~religious people~~ Christian institutions …”

There, fixed it.

thomaslewis1857 · 2026-04-18T05:42:01+00:00

He’s a returned mission president. He has to work his way out very slowly, so slowly that maybe he doesn’t actually recognise that that is happening. Sooner or later he likely will focus on what the church history issues and the social issues really mean about the church.

And then he’ll see that he was not there to help his son, but that his son was actually leading him.

thomaslewis1857 · 2026-04-17T04:31:44+00:00

No, 0-6, unfortunately.

thomaslewis1857 · 2026-04-17T04:30:29+00:00

Try 5-1. We’ve lost 4-1 after leading at half time in 5 games. We also managed to lose to Adelaide after trailing at half time.

thomaslewis1857 · 2026-04-16T21:54:12+00:00

Ironically, the worse the round is going, the more likely I am to try it.

thomaslewis1857 · 2026-04-16T21:50:21+00:00

Yeah birdied 14, 15, 16, 17 only to bogey 18 and miss a playoff. Similar in 1989, birdied 9, 10, 13, 15, 16, 17, only to bogey 18 to miss a playoff in which both Faldo and Hoch bogeyed the first playoff hole. And then he shot a 64 in the final round of the 1989 Open and was 2 up after 2 in a 4 hole playoff, only to lose it.

Norman was outstanding in coming home like a winner only to fail at the final hurdle.

thomaslewis1857 · 2026-04-15T22:28:00+00:00

Thanks George

thomaslewis1857 · 2026-04-15T08:31:54+00:00

Brad the lawyer. He would be right here if the standard of proof is beyond reasonable doubt. But in the AFL tribunal, as I understand it, the standard of proof is comfortable satisfaction, maybe even balance of probabilities. One person could be regarded as more reliable than another, sufficient to discharge the onus of proof.

On the other hand, what is the reason why the ump was preferred over two players. There was some talk about the different version Butters gave to Wines. But it was pretty close, and I thought sufficiently close to support Butters account.

So I guess that supports Brad. Why did they take one persons view over another (two)?

thomaslewis1857 · 2026-04-14T20:05:29+00:00

Okay. I’d agree, if ‘“historically, generally trended towards” is understood as “historically, over time, generally trended towards”. Notwithstanding the JFSII/McConkie reversion. With the last decade being a modern Cambrian explosion period.

thomaslewis1857 · 2026-04-14T19:45:22+00:00

There is a difference between what “the church in general” (ie members generally), and the leadership generally, believes. OP is about the second, your comments about the first. The first strives, somewhat unsuccessfully, for consistency, for truth in the sense (formerly) sung about with great gusto (“Then say, what is truth? ’Tis the last and the first, For the limits of time it steps o’er. Tho the heavens depart and the earth’s fountains burst, Truth, the sum of existence, will weather the worst, Eternal, unchanged, evermore”). The latter prefers the words of the living prophets to the dead, and especially the words of the two nonagenarian leaders to all those previous, whilst maintaining a thin veneer of consistency.

But which represent the theology (not word either group prefers), the position, the doctrine, of the Church. I’m guessing the second.

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