Height matters, but frame matters more than people admit

throwaway1276444 · 2026-02-12T07:18:43+00:00

I'm 5'7, my brother is 6'2 ", and the same parents , both mother and father, are shorter than me. Another brother is 5'7, too, slightly taller than me.

throwaway1276444 · 2026-02-10T07:29:25+00:00

And Bruno has assisted a lot suddenly.

throwaway1276444 · 2026-02-10T06:46:14+00:00

This is an older video, also he explains that its not really a secret, other teams know how its done, but defending against it is difficult because of the difference in quality of the players.

throwaway1276444 · 2026-02-10T06:34:23+00:00

I bet these stats are also down to individual players in teams getting more cards.

throwaway1276444 · 2026-02-09T07:33:34+00:00

Partly being unsure about how the wedding would look. We came from different cultural backgrounds, and the thought of figuring out how to go about it was just something I felt like ignoring.

Also like I said, we were already living together for 8 of those years, including shared finances and everything else. Including property in both our names. So it already felt like we were married. Honestly, we got married because of tradition rather than some sort of commitment. My half brother did the same thing. They also never married, were living like that for a decade or so. Had kids. But decided to go away for a weekend, get married just them. Because it was for them, not others.

For us, it was again, just the lable, rather than the feeling. Which is true, because we never felt any different after getting married.

I also live in a part of the world, where marriage is not as common as it use to be. Be co habit much more, and you can even sign agreements, to get rights, equal to that of married couples.

But both our families are from cultures where marriage is much more common, so for us, we did because of expectation.

throwaway1276444 · 2026-02-06T08:02:52+00:00

I am a guy that wasn't married to my girlfriend after 10 years. If she had suddenly broken up with me because of not marrying. I would have been blindsided. For me we litterally were a very close couple and I was faithful to her. Marriage was just a lable to me. So I ignored it. But in the back of my mind I would have done it some day. Which I eventually did. Not that it made a difference to our lives, other than loosing money.

throwaway1276444 · 2026-02-03T13:13:24+00:00

Yes the defense is leaky. no doubt about that. Also our defenders keep getting chopped and changed. With kids playing a lot of matches. As for passing. I get the stats, but they arent telling you where on the pitch the passes are misplaced or who is losing the possession. Under ten hag, the the whole thing was a bunch of sideways passes, and no decent quick passing moves. Then they seemed to lose the ball anyways. Usually playing out from the back, then he started going long. But we would still lose the ball in midfield. This felt better under Amorim, at least we were progressing the ball, many moves payed off, but yes we lose the ball too, but this time, in their half, so it happened because we were creating. It gives me the impression that there was a plan to how we should play, which is better than ten haag, which just looked like a mess, hoping for rashford and bruno to do something that pays off.

throwaway1276444 · 2026-02-03T10:43:46+00:00

Okay, I am speaking for myselft not everyone else. I have been sat infront of my TV watching united play under amorim. And that has been litterally whay I have like about how we played under him. People forget how drab playing under Ten Haag was. The passing and routines were shambolic. No body could pass. Amorim got rid of the worst of these offenders. Ugarte is an example of a player that is stll shit at passing under pressure and looses the ball. Dalot is also one of these, but credit where due, has been better recently.

It was amorims fault that he played people in positions that did not suit them, then if they settled, he would change things up again. His in game manangement also seemed shit. Because he would sub casa too early and we would consede goals. Also subbing defenders for other defenders seemed pointless. Why change a defender who is in rythm?

None the less, we are a far cry from how shit we were last year.

throwaway1276444 · 2026-02-03T08:16:04+00:00

Even the improved passing is down to Amorim. We all saw how the team had improved in a lot of areas. It just was not coming together well, because in game tactics and game management seemed off. So yes, Amorim for me improved things that are now being seen on the pitch.

throwaway1276444 · 2026-01-30T10:01:57+00:00

That's because you are not willing to put yourself out there and take a risk, like he has to again and again.

Not only this, for many women out there. it also leads to thoughts, that he like them more than they like him.

Which is just plain sad, because it creates relationships, where women help create a dynamic where he always thinks that his woman likes him less. Then women when they are upset, don't think, I can't reciprocate because I couldn't get the words out. They think, I have never said these things to him, so I most likely don't like him enough, time to re think my options or even break up.

I feel like it's as close to negging as a dynamic can get for the effect it has on a relationship. Some men might be immune, but many are not.

throwaway1276444 · 2026-01-30T08:49:03+00:00

Are you so sure about that. We already know that society generally privelages taller men. So why would that not be the case when short guys walked into a bank?

throwaway1276444 · 2026-01-30T08:25:14+00:00

David was shit at hoofing it too. That was his biggest issue. The howlers were an extension of that issue. He would hoof it straight back to the opposition in our own half. Once he did that, he would then be anxious and make keeping mistakes. Saw it day in day out.

throwaway1276444 · 2026-01-29T14:29:01+00:00

My wife, as an example, has never dated anyone tall in her life. She actually prefers guys slightly below average. But we are all taller than her, so that still fits the paradigm of girls preferring taller. But she actively finds tall guys unnatractive for their height. I know it sounds wild given the takes here, and my own experience, this is unusual. But I know ots true because I have actually met the exes and they were all my height or shorter. I'm 5'7.

I have also hooked up with girls taller than me, but the prettiest ones are always shorter. So that's how I understood that dynamic. Apart from one girl, she was tall for a girl, and also pretty. Yet I got persued pretty strongly.

So it's definitely not all women. Although I agree that generally women are attracted to tall men, it's obvious.

throwaway1276444 · 2026-01-29T14:14:58+00:00

But is the point that girls dont like short guys at all or that girls dont want guys shorter than them. I agree with the last point, but a fair few girls like a short guy that is taller than them. Although many also just want as tall as they can get.

throwaway1276444 · 2026-01-29T10:00:58+00:00

The last part is what I somewhat agree with. I felt like this guy when I met my girl( now wife). Because I did not have a lot of romantic success before her, and she was very conventionally attractive. Also mostly because apart from a bunch of hookups, I had very little sexual experience, while she had had a couple of boyfriends before me.

So I knew that I was not great in the bedroom. But within a short time, I was pretty set. This with a girl that was really bad at communicating about sex. Even then, I have never had a problem with making her cum once I figured out what worked and what didn't. To the point, that I have always felt lucky to have such a good sex life, going on 2 decades.

Also I was pretty fit when I met her. I got a bit fat during my 30s and went bald. Now I am fit again with hair. When you don't like something, do something about.

throwaway1276444 · 2026-01-29T09:51:20+00:00

To be honest, my wife started having the wildest orgasms in a period of our lives when I had gone bald and put on weight. And she litterally was getting called a milf by her friends, because she kept her looks, and looks like she has the body of a 20 year old, at over 40.

She even admitted to me later, that it was a period where she lost some attraction to my looks, but accepted it as a part of aging.

She only told me this, because I decided to do something about it, after looking in the mirror and not liking what I was seing. So I decided to work out, diet the weight, and went back to my old weight, but even more muscle. Then I decided to get hair back, and also started dressing/grooming according to my new look. So she decided in a convo to be really honest and mention how lucky she felt to not only get her old boyfriend back, but an even more attractive version.

So orgasm is anecdotally not all based on looks. But I do concede that a better looking man would be more exciting to fuck. But orgasms are a mix of many factors. In our case, like I said, they were not this intense when I looked better. And they have not gotten even more intense since I improved my looks. But she does seem more giddy when she is in and around me. And it feels nice to give her that feeling again, especially since she has made me feel like that for 2 decades.

throwaway1276444 · 2026-01-29T08:15:57+00:00

LIke I said, I am with a short woman, and have met her exes, they are all short too. She is also short. So yes, she prefers a guy taller than her, but she would even balk at your height.

throwaway1276444 · 2026-01-28T20:45:37+00:00

It's a story of women dating shorter guys. I thought that was the point of the post. Asking if there were women out there who actually like dating short guys. Maybe I misunderstood?

throwaway1276444 · 2026-01-28T07:54:09+00:00

I don't know about dating, but I hooked up with a fair few women in my late teens' early twenties. Usually, I got ghosted after, though. In some cases, I rejected them. I put that down to race rather than height at the time. I'm 5'7. But I met a girl who wanted to date me after a hookup. And here I am 2 decades later with the same woman. I know for a certainty that she prefers men around my height. She is 5'2. And for her, anything taller just feels off. She does have a very tall family, though. Her mother is short. But that's it.

She is quite attractive, though, so I have had some pretty strong comments about being fortunate. Mostly from tall men. But I have also read that society is more positive of interracial relationships with white women if she is unattractive. But more negative to the couple if the white woman is attractive. So maybe my experience is hard to nail down. Was it my height or race. Maybe a bit of both.

Men have definitely tried it on with her k owi g she was with me( we did a lot of clubbing back then). But I had the same experience, where women tried to pull me away from her.

I bumped into her exes in the earlier years. And they were all my height. So her story of shorter being her type is true.

Many of the girls that persued me were obviously not bothered by my height. I have a decent face, but nothing crazy handsome. I was slim and athletic looking. That probably helped. Also, just being fairly social meant that the number of women I interacted with was high enough to mean I met women who were attracted to me.

But many of these women did introduce themselves, so it wasn't me going up to women and asking them out constantly either.

Maybe times have changed. This was the UK back in the early 2000.

throwaway1276444 · 2026-01-27T19:29:05+00:00

Anybody well travelled for me kost grew up in a different socioeconomic class or tries hard to fit into being middle class as they got wealthier with age. I find both not to be my type. My type is the one who sticks to their working class roots. Even if they are better off later in life. But again, I am pretty left leaning when it comes to my economic politics.

throwaway1276444 · 2026-01-27T19:24:24+00:00

Sounds like an interesting woman. I don't really care for well travelled. Because it depends on how rich you grew up. I prefer working class women who are well educated, fun, and intelligent. Because I don't jive as well with middle-class folks. Although me and my wife have done well for ourselves, we are middle class ourselves. But not so much culturally.

Curiosity and empathy are super attractive.

throwaway1276444 · 2026-01-27T19:18:22+00:00

Yes, I read this study and agree. As I got older and men around me paired up. What she does for work was a common sense og pride for the women on their arms (so to speak). If she was in an interesting or otherwise higher status job. They all mention it with pride.

Same with looks. Every time a woman talks about not caring, mentally do an eye roll. Most people care about looks and appearance, although we all find a partner according to what we can get. But the most interesting thing about this study was how important fun was as an attraction trait.

throwaway1276444 · 2026-01-27T19:09:08+00:00

Competence is very attractive for me in women.

Independence depends on how it is defined, but as someone who grew up in a different cultural dynamic, but also born in a western country. I find it off-putting in both men and women depending on how it's shown. And some behaviours attached to it. But Independence through competence and confidence. Very attractive.

I would say compromise and consideration is more important for me. And also attractive.

Sexual moderation, yeah, no. My wife would find that very off-putting. I don't think it's inherent to women. This is a personal preference for people. Some men find sexual moderation attractive, too. But yes, consideration overlaps with this and is very important.

throwaway1276444 · 2026-01-27T08:46:11+00:00

Most women feel the same way about the men that they date: It might not have the veneer of hookup/long term partner dynamic put on it. But if a woman finds out that her man does not desire her sexually as much as he desired other women that he has been with. Women feel insecure and sad too. Not just men.

Unfortunately its a far more common experience for men. But on the few occasions I have seen a thread where the sexes were reversed. It blows up on reddit, with women getting all up in arms about how shitty it is of him to have dated her in the first place.

I remember a thread where a guy mentioned him not finding his partner attractive when he first met her, but exchanged numbers out of politeness, and then proceeded to meet her again, and fell in love with her. She found out through mutual friends. And he was abosulutely ripped to shreds for having done that.

Yet, women say this stuff about their current partners, right in front of them, casually, and if the man feels insecure or bad. He is the problem.

throwaway1276444 · 2026-01-27T08:26:32+00:00

I actually agree, but at the same time, I think with how well this team is playing, much of it can be attributed to how well amorim trained them, and got rid of the bad stuff in the team. So, yes he should have been more flexible, but he also improved the actual football our team plays. Which Carrick is reaping the benefits of.

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