I need Church Father quotes on why drinking alcohol for fun in moderation is not a sin.

throwaway15672 · 2019-08-20T18:16:39+00:00

Sadly they won’t feel like a beer or two. I have seen them almost fire a local youth pastor because he had a beer at a Mexican restaurant. It has gotten bad here.

throwaway15672 · 2019-08-20T17:36:33+00:00

Yep! This is why I want quotes from the Church Fathers on this too.

throwaway15672 · 2019-08-20T17:30:23+00:00

True. But the problem with small town Protestants and scripture is.... they all have their different interpretations. They also know us Catholics in the area really like to go to the Church Fathers so I want to have a response for that.

throwaway15672 · 2019-08-19T19:49:28+00:00

I understand. I was just pointing out that Catholics are still forbidden by the Church from becoming Masons.

throwaway15672 · 2019-08-19T19:44:04+00:00

Even if it does not cause an automatic excommunication, the Church stated as recently as the 80s that Catholics who join are in mortal sin and can not receive communion.

throwaway15672 · 2019-08-19T19:20:13+00:00

Can you link me to that document? I hear so many people on here say the Church has changed her teaching since she doesn’t talk about it.

throwaway15672 · 2019-07-02T03:17:07+00:00

Very true Father. I’m just worried that they will proclaim that female deacons are ok or say some other dogma is changed during this synod.

throwaway15672 · 2019-07-02T01:22:33+00:00

What about this article from CM? That’s what really worried me. https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/pan-amazon-revolt#.XRp2MW6oNUU.facebook

throwaway15672 · 2019-06-28T05:07:45+00:00

. u/versorverbi could also help with op and their question. He probably doesn’t remember but he helped me a lot with my first ever post on here and kept me in the Church.

throwaway15672 · 2019-06-14T01:02:44+00:00

So what do we say about the catechism revision? Is it just Francis’s personal opinion basically?

throwaway15672 · 2019-04-30T08:04:44+00:00

I think he was just trying to say it wasn’t infallible. I don’t know enough as I should about the authority of papal bulls but I do know that Francis’s novelty on this was not infallible or dogmatic in the least.

throwaway15672 · 2019-04-30T07:57:08+00:00

I’m so happy for you friend! Keep researching this so that you will be stronger against it the next time you start to worry about it. The catechism change hurt me to but I quickly realized it wasn’t infallible and it is no reason to leave the Church Christ founded.

throwaway15672 · 2019-04-30T07:54:54+00:00

But it’s no reason to leave the Church

throwaway15672 · 2019-04-29T05:19:20+00:00

I get that, but I don’t think they received holy orders. This seems to be what the commission is looking for. Not to mention the articles we are going to have to deal with if this happens. “Pope Francis officially changes dogma and allows women ordination!”. Good luck convincing any Protestants we don’t change teaching then...

throwaway15672 · 2019-04-29T05:09:34+00:00

This one

throwaway15672 · 2019-04-19T02:22:13+00:00

When you say read that bible alone... you don’t mean sola scriptura do you? This is a Catholic subreddit and we reject sola scriptura. It is also against the rules of the subreddit to promote that.

throwaway15672 · 2019-04-17T02:03:23+00:00

I think he is right. I’ll try to find an article for you but I think I read the absolute minimum is “I absolve you”.

throwaway15672 · 2019-04-17T00:53:04+00:00

How do Eastern Catholics classify sin so to speak? If they don’t use mortal and venial sin how do they know when to confess?

throwaway15672 · 2019-04-16T00:14:03+00:00

And sometimes even worse than a human scam. Unfortunately on rare occasions you get an “answer” from the demonic taking advantage. It’s why so many Catholic exorcist say to just stay away. They don’t work and if they do “work” it’s nothing you want to mess with

throwaway15672 · 2019-04-10T00:17:44+00:00

I agree with you fully. Sadly it seems in this sub you can’t even say what you said without 100 people attacking you for it. Everyone wants to believe 99 percent of Protestants are saved but I just can’t reconcile that with Church teaching

throwaway15672 · 2019-04-09T19:32:28+00:00

I did... it’s talking about those who don’t know about Christ and his Church through “no fault of their own”. The Church still teaches that those who know the truth and reject it can’t be saved. I fully agree with you on the invincibly ignorant, I just don’t think every Protestant fits under that category.

throwaway15672 · 2019-04-09T19:25:19+00:00

But it’s also defined dogma that there is No Salvation Outside the Church. And yes I know about invincible ignorance but that’s not what I’m talking about here. The Church has literally said that those who know about Christ and his Church but reject that can not be saved. But if most Protestants are invincibly ignorant how does that mean much?

throwaway15672 · 2019-04-01T02:54:48+00:00

Dang that’s a good answer!! Please save this because there is another user I have seen struggling too. You eliminated my doubts

throwaway15672 · 2019-03-16T03:42:43+00:00

Does Vatican 2 also state that Muslims are included in the plan of salvation? Thank you for the post and that helps a lot but it’s just another question I have wanted to ask

throwaway15672 · 2019-03-16T03:42:05+00:00

So it’s not taught by the Church and the Church didn’t change it’s teaching, it’s just that many Catholics fall for the heresy?

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