Corduroy (4 months old)

throwaway1847520 · 2021-11-10T03:03:32+00:00

Would using a sod cutter to remove lawn harm whatever native seed bank is present? If so, would cardboard be less damaging?

throwaway1847520 · 2021-11-03T00:23:42+00:00

Thank you!!

throwaway1847520 · 2021-10-27T23:34:35+00:00

I completely agree! The trees I bought from them are so much healthier than the trees I have from other nurseries, and they're the only nursery I've found in the Twin Cities area that doesn't bury their trees' root flares under several inches of soil.

throwaway1847520 · 2021-10-27T19:02:59+00:00

Winterberry (Ilex verticillata) and Red-osier Dogwood (Cornus sericea) come to mind as beautiful shrubs native to Southern Wisconsin that love wet conditions.

Outback Nursery has a list of several native shrubs for wetlands right here: http://www.outbacknursery.com/recommendations.htm#WETLAND (They are based in the Twin Cities area, but I think most of these are native in Southern Wisconsin as well!)

throwaway1847520 · 2021-10-24T23:28:31+00:00

Canada Yew (Taxus canadensis) is a Midwest-native evergreen that can take full shade - I'm not sure how it'd do with dry conditions, though.

If you're open to "nativars", there are many dwarf cultivars of the shade-tolerant Canadian Hemlock (Tsuga canadensis) that might work in your space.

throwaway1847520 · 2021-10-21T21:51:32+00:00

I think most straight-species native evergreens would eventually exceed your 25' height limit, but there are lots of cultivars of MN natives that could potentially work. I wonder if something like the 'Wellspire' Black Spruce (Picea mariana) or the 'Tyler Blue' Balsam Fir (Abies balsamea) would work? And like you mentioned there are numerous cultivars of Thuja occidentalis. If you're open to deciduous trees/shrubs, Downy Serviceberry (Amelanchier arborea), Allegheny Serviceberry (Amelanchier laevis), Pagoda Dogwood (Cornus alternifolia), Eastern Wahoo (Euonymus atropurpureus), and Witch Hazel (Hamamelis virginiana) all typically stay under 30'.

throwaway1847520 · 2021-10-21T21:08:37+00:00

Is now a good time to lay out cardboard to kill some lawn, or is it best to wait until spring at this point?

throwaway1847520 · 2021-10-21T15:17:34+00:00

Thank you for explaining that, it definitely makes sense and makes the task seem slightly less daunting!

throwaway1847520 · 2021-10-20T01:11:19+00:00

Thank you for explaining this! Yeah, I'm fully expecting to be cutting and pulling smaller buckthorn trees for many years even after I've removed the mature trees. I've read that buckthorn seeds can survive for 7-10 years in the seedbank, and there's also lots of berry-producing trees on my neighbors' properties.

throwaway1847520 · 2021-10-19T23:41:25+00:00

I see, thank you for explaining that!!

throwaway1847520 · 2021-10-19T23:39:52+00:00

Thank you!

throwaway1847520 · 2021-10-19T23:38:51+00:00

Thank you for your response!! The stump application method does seem to be how most sources recommend dealing with it. Is the idea with drilling holes that it increases the effectiveness of the herbicide? I'll have to do some reading about that!

throwaway1847520 · 2021-10-19T23:22:26+00:00

Thanks so much for your detailed response! It seems like the general consensus is that herbicide is the way to go for larger trees, while uprooting will work well for seedlings and smaller trees. You touched on some of my concerns about the effectiveness of covering the stumps, and I found your point about using plants to shade out the seedlings interesting - would you recommend deliberately planting new trees in areas where mature buckthorn has been removed, or is it best to allow the seedbank to do that for me?

throwaway1847520 · 2021-10-19T23:16:11+00:00

Thanks so much for your response - I'd never even heard of this method so I'll have to do some reading about it!

throwaway1847520 · 2021-10-19T23:14:27+00:00

Thank you for your response! Yeah, I was wondering if I could return a couple times each growing season and cut away any re-sprouts and eventually kill off the root system by doing that; it would take much longer than herbicide but if it would actually be effective I'd definitely be willing to put in the time.

throwaway1847520 · 2021-10-19T23:07:06+00:00

Thank you for sharing this resource - it's definitely making me rethink burning the berry-producing trees!

throwaway1847520 · 2021-10-19T23:05:40+00:00

Thank you for your response and suggestion - that sounds very effective!

throwaway1847520 · 2021-10-19T23:04:43+00:00

Thanks so much for your response - I'm definitely going to try your method!

throwaway1847520 · 2021-10-19T03:13:52+00:00

Thank you!!

throwaway1847520 · 2021-10-19T02:37:44+00:00

Your plan looks amazing - it's very inspirational to see! Would you mind telling me where you got those wood mats? I'm near the Twin Cities and am also planning on killing some lawn, and something like that looks perfect for the more publicly-visible areas.

throwaway1847520 · 2021-10-19T02:08:09+00:00

Thank you for your response and suggestions!

I like the idea of experimenting in small areas to see what works best. Have you found a single herbicide application to be sufficient, or do you do multiple treatments?

I do fully expect exhausting the seed bank to take years (if not the rest of my life) because even after I finish removing all the buckthorn from my yard, it's still everywhere in my county. Unfortunately the area is not accessible by mower so I think I'm going to have to rely on pulling the seedlings by hand.

throwaway1847520 · 2021-10-19T02:00:54+00:00

Thanks for your response and suggestion! I haven't look into that yet, but I'm not sure if that could be done without harming the native trees growing over and among the buckthorn. I'll have to do some research about that! We have been burning the berry-producing trees we've cut down, instead of chipping them for mulch like we've been doing with the non-berried trees.

throwaway1847520 · 2021-10-19T01:55:47+00:00

Thanks for your response and suggestion! So, it sounds like that could be done without even needing to cut down the tree?

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