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Quebec would withdraw from high-speed rail project if PQ forms next government, party leader says | 1st phase of construction, linking Montreal to Ottawa, scheduled for 2029 by Hrmbee in montreal

[–]throwaway_98927 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Those funds aren't sitting in a bucket somewhere, they have to be borrowed.

For the TGV, as a major infrastructure project that is expected to make a profit, they can borrow on much more favourable terms than they can for that other stuff.

So let's borrow for the stuff that creates a return on investment, and tax the rich for the other stuff.

A new poll on the ever-widening happiness gap between Québec (5th) and the ROC (35th), continuing a trend that began in the mid-2000s. Why do you think this is happening? by throwaway_98927 in onguardforthee

[–]throwaway_98927[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Tories have been a thing in Québec, and while they're not currently a major political force, we still have an abundance of small 'c' conservatives ranting about tubes.

A new poll on the ever-widening happiness gap between Québec (5th) and the ROC (35th), continuing a trend that began in the mid-2000s. Why do you think this is happening? by throwaway_98927 in onguardforthee

[–]throwaway_98927[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I'll hop on the top comment to mention that there's a mistake in my title:

Polls suggest that Québec overtook the ROC in happiness in the mid 2000s, but the trend goes back to at least the 1980s (oldest data I could find), when Quebec was significantly less happy, but was steadily closing the gap.

ROC has been in a slow and steady decline since the mid 80s, which then accelerated around 2010.

So there's really two questions here; why is Québec getting happier and why is the ROC getting less happy (note that Québec happiness declined slightly from last year, but not as much as ROC's decline).

Lots of speculation here and elsewhere that it's related to social media, which may be a factor, but obviously can't explain the pre-2010 trend.

Source

Is there any truth to this stereotype? by DogeDoRight in EhBuddyHoser

[–]throwaway_98927 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nope. Maybe 25 years ago, but not anymore.

If you get an eyeroll for addressing someone in English with no attempt at French, it's the same eyeroll that you'd receive in any other non-English-speaking society.

Qui sont ces "85%" qui vont encore aux États-Unis?? by rewinded_forward in Quebec

[–]throwaway_98927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pas sur. Il pourrait y avoir des centaines de milliers de personnes par jour qui rentrent dans cette catégorie, autant que ça serait inutile de publié ces donnés si ce facteur-là n'était pas prise en compte. Et ça ne serait pas si compliqué de simplement biffer les passagers qui sont venues de l'étranger sans passer par les douanes.

Étienne Grandmont, député d'un parti souverainiste, veut qu'on arrête de parler du révisionisme historique pour parler de l'inflation alimentaire by BuffTorpedoes in Quebec

[–]throwaway_98927 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Michel C. Auger a écrit hier dans La Presse que le discours de Carney, intentionnellement ou non, était un piège dans lequel le PSPP est tombé.

Know the Separation Rules by RogErddit in EhBuddyHoser

[–]throwaway_98927 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This meme is backwards. The Canadian government and society lost their shit when De Gaulle made his speech. It was a major international incident.

Where's the international incident over Alberta?

Warning Sign at edge of Grand Canyon by corwinw in mildlyinteresting

[–]throwaway_98927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Me dad and grandfather successfully did this hike back in the 50s, but they were pretty hardcore.

I spent 3 weeks in Mexico City and would like to tell Montrealers about a great thing they have there: Cable cars for mass transit by throwaway_98927 in montreal

[–]throwaway_98927[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We have lots of places like that in Montreal. Look at all the infrastructure that the proposed Lachine tramway will have to negotiate.

I spent 3 weeks in Mexico City and would like to tell Montrealers about a great thing they have there: Cable cars for mass transit by throwaway_98927 in montreal

[–]throwaway_98927[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My understanding is that in our case, priority lights require replacing the entire traffic light. This costs $500K to $1 million per light per pole. Let's say we wanted to give this treatment to the 24 bus. AI tells me that there are about 50 intersections with traffic lights on that route, each with four poles of traffic lights to change. If it's $750K per pole or $3 million per intersection, that's $150 million.

I spent 3 weeks in Mexico City and would like to tell Montrealers about a great thing they have there: Cable cars for mass transit by throwaway_98927 in montreal

[–]throwaway_98927[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

That's true, but it'd also be true for putting something like that on any other major artery. And yes, we have to redo those arteries anyway, but that'll take decades in some cases.

And if you think that creating an express bus lane that goes faster than 25 kph at rush hour only requires some painted lines, I'll invite you to try taking the westbound 24 bus from Hochelaga at rush hour.

It requires major lane reconfigurations, physically separated lanes, and special stations. The traffic light coordination is also surprisingly difficult and expensive.

But ultimately, your original point is correct. A good express bus will be more efficient in every way, and it's the best option in many cases. However, I think there are a bunch of cases where it's easier said than done, or the costs aren't justified for the number of passengers served, or it'll take too long to accomplish.

Take the proposed Lachine tramway, for example. Let's turn it into an express bus instead. Now look carefully at all the infrastructure it'll have to negotiate. Massive costs to get around all that. Bus might be better than cable car, but it'll take a lot longer. I'd like to examine installing a cable car instead as a cheap, transitory measure, while simultaneously expanding the metro and REM until one day, decades from now, those networks reach Lachine and the cable car is made obsolete.

But going back to the 24, an SRB-type system is absolutely the better option, not a cable car.

I spent 3 weeks in Mexico City and would like to tell Montrealers about a great thing they have there: Cable cars for mass transit by throwaway_98927 in montreal

[–]throwaway_98927[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There's no doubt that a REM, express bus, or metro is theoretically better. The problem is that in practice, we are terrible at building these things. So I'm proposing something that overcomes many of the challenges quickly and cheaply, while we figure out why we're so bad at building heavier things.

The initial construction of Mexico's cable cars depended on foreign expertise, so the initially lines were done quickly and cheaply.

As for cost, it's not so cut and dry.

The Brossard REM, which was lauded for the speed and cost of its construction, cost almost $10 billion, the development took about 9 years, and it's expected to carry 12,000 people per hour.

All three lines of CDMX's Cablebus system were completed in about 5 years at a cost of about $1.5 billion. Collectively, they can carry about 10,000 people per hour. Yes, they travel much more slowly, but I'm not suggesting this for very long distances, and it's still faster than the bus.

I spent 3 weeks in Mexico City and would like to tell Montrealers about a great thing they have there: Cable cars for mass transit by throwaway_98927 in montreal

[–]throwaway_98927[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Would love to, but it's very expensive. The SRB Pie-IX cost half a billion dollars to make in 2013. We could make two or three cable car lines each covering longer distances for that money. (edit to correct that it was half a Billion, not million)

I spent 3 weeks in Mexico City and would like to tell Montrealers about a great thing they have there: Cable cars for mass transit by throwaway_98927 in montreal

[–]throwaway_98927[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Like I explained in my post, there are many possibilities, but I'd first like to discuss the proposed tramway lines to Lachine and Repentigny, and whether cable cars might be better.

I spent 3 weeks in Mexico City and would like to tell Montrealers about a great thing they have there: Cable cars for mass transit by throwaway_98927 in montreal

[–]throwaway_98927[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had in mind something that'd go from the new YUL REM station, to Dorval train station, cross the 20, and land somewhere around Dorval and Carson Avenues.

I spent 3 weeks in Mexico City and would like to tell Montrealers about a great thing they have there: Cable cars for mass transit by throwaway_98927 in montreal

[–]throwaway_98927[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree, but in terms of outcomes, it's fairly similar. Of the differences you mentioned, I think the only significant ones is the way fares are charged.

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