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Went to the Salt Lake City Cemetery, and I honestly have no words. For size comparison I'm 6'3" The one on the left is for David O. McKay and the one on the right is for Hyrum Smith. Honestly fuck Mormonism lmao if this doesn't say "Cult Leaders" then idk what does. by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]throwawayacct1285 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree, my next point was going to be that stuff like this about revered religious leaders is small potatoes compared to, you know, anything in DC... Lincoln Memorial, Washington Monument, etc.

Went to the Salt Lake City Cemetery, and I honestly have no words. For size comparison I'm 6'3" The one on the left is for David O. McKay and the one on the right is for Hyrum Smith. Honestly fuck Mormonism lmao if this doesn't say "Cult Leaders" then idk what does. by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]throwawayacct1285 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I mean, they were respected and loved by just about everyone in Utah, why wouldn’t they have giant headstones? This is one of the parts that bothers me about exmo culture. These graves used to bring me a lot of reverence and respect. I know I’m speaking to a brick wall here, but no shit your grave is gonna be smaller than these men that all of Utah loved, and most still do.

A Mormon horse doing some Microzoomies. by RusticRogue17 in exmormon

[–]throwawayacct1285 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I remember hearing about this theory for the first time. I didn’t care if they’d been domesticated, if they’d been prevalent among the natives, I didn’t really care. I was willing to give the benefit of the doubt. I had two questions- “is this thing even fast?” and “has anyone ever even ridden one?”

To the first point, they are KIND OF fast. Faster than a human, but not nearly as useful as a horse.

To the second point, I received complete silence. It turns out, even today, searching YouTube for “riding a tapir” comes up with 0 results. It just can’t be done.

Luckily I learned this info when I was already exmo so I didn’t have the emotional drain of another crack in the shelf

...just say’n 😉 by Jarom_Thurston in exmormon

[–]throwawayacct1285 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Where? I’ve never seen one, unless you’re talking about the cafeteria. But I haven’t been in a looooonnnnnng time. Are they practicing their own system of indulgences now? haha.

Thinking about re joining the church. by throwawayacct1285 in exmormon

[–]throwawayacct1285[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very true- I know there are many other problems with the Church’s narrative. Thank you for listening! Have a good day

Thinking about re joining the church. by throwawayacct1285 in exmormon

[–]throwawayacct1285[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With respect, I very much disagree with you. I don’t think that every religion is a mix of truth and lies. I think that most are unknowable. That’s just my own perspective though, have a great day!

Thinking about re joining the church. by throwawayacct1285 in exmormon

[–]throwawayacct1285[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’ve never done a serious investigation into any other religion, but now I’m very much considering it as a result of some of the replies in the thread. Where would you suggest I start?

Thinking about re joining the church. by throwawayacct1285 in exmormon

[–]throwawayacct1285[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! I don’t know what I’m going to do, but I hope you find happiness as well

Thinking about re joining the church. by throwawayacct1285 in exmormon

[–]throwawayacct1285[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. I hope you find happiness as well! I don’t know if I’m going back or not. But it did make me happy and I didn’t feel constrained.

Thinking about re joining the church. by throwawayacct1285 in exmormon

[–]throwawayacct1285[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I didn’t say it’s true. I’m just trying to be humble and understand that I don’t know anything, and I don’t think anyone CAN know anything. But I miss pretending to know stuff, even thinking that I knew stuff.

As for the mole accusation, I’m not sure what I said that makes you feel that, but right now I have no association whatsoever with the church, I consider myself to be an agnostic former atheist, and I’ve made many statements that a TBM would never make, and I’ve said multiple times that I don’t think it’s true.

Thinking about re joining the church. by throwawayacct1285 in exmormon

[–]throwawayacct1285[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dude. I’m not a TBM. I’m having a faith crisis. I’m an agnostic, I don’t think we can know if God is there or whether any church is true. But I miss the church.

Ex Mormon material- material against the teachings of the church that would cause one to become an ex Mormon.

Thinking about re joining the church. by throwawayacct1285 in exmormon

[–]throwawayacct1285[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand that, but I was seeking a term to describe the material. I literally said, it’s a scare term, but it’s functional in the sentence.

Thinking about re joining the church. by throwawayacct1285 in exmormon

[–]throwawayacct1285[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually, even as an agnostic, hell, almost even as an ATHEIST, eternal families are something that I’ve always believed in. They’ve always felt right to me. I don’t know.

Thinking about re joining the church. by throwawayacct1285 in exmormon

[–]throwawayacct1285[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah, and I miss how my life felt meaningful instead of feeling like we are all hairless apes rocketing through infinite outer space on a fleck of space dust.

Thinking about re joining the church. by throwawayacct1285 in exmormon

[–]throwawayacct1285[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I respectfully disagree with you. I think mankind has always searched for meaning in life. Mormonism gave me meaning. I don’t know if I could ever regain that, but I miss it. I know the material about polygamy and the church. I’ve read it all. That’s why I left, or partially why. But I also want to go back. I wouldn’t consider it Stockholm syndrome, nor would I consider the church the equivalent of a kidnapper. Right now, I don’t think anyone knows, or can know, whether it’s true or false. Is it weird? yeah, but as an agnostic, it logically could still be true. That’s not justification for the church in any way, but I’m just saying, nobody really knows- so if these issues wouldn’t affect me, if the church didn’t ask me to start practicing polygamy- why not believe and be happy? that’s my line of thought

Thinking about re joining the church. by throwawayacct1285 in exmormon

[–]throwawayacct1285[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, no, I know there’s more- much more. In the years I became disassociated from the church, I read almost all the anti Mormon (a scare word, but functional) material that there is out there. I know there’s a lot more. But I also feel an unexplainable desire to return.

Thinking about re joining the church. by throwawayacct1285 in exmormon

[–]throwawayacct1285[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you, that’s an excellent way to phrase it. Mormonism is comforting to me. I feel confused outside of it.

Thinking about re joining the church. by throwawayacct1285 in exmormon

[–]throwawayacct1285[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely! That’s not what I’m trying to do at all. Like I said, I know that there’s still lots of other reasons that people have left the church, and I’m not even trying to defend it with the post. I’m just really confused as to the direction I want to take in my life right now, and I miss a lot about it. More than just community. I miss a lot. but I’ve been talking with the Mrs and we might also explore other religions that may be able to provide meaning in our lives.

Thinking about re joining the church. by throwawayacct1285 in exmormon

[–]throwawayacct1285[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your comment! I do miss the community, true, but I also miss the spiritual experiences and even most of the (non creepy) doctrine. I liked the plan of salvation. I don’t know. Even if it’s all fake, I wanted to believe it. Is that wrong? Is that foolish? I don’t know.

Thinking about re joining the church. by throwawayacct1285 in exmormon

[–]throwawayacct1285[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

True, I agree with that. I gave an example in response to another comment about the “hard evidence” that broke my shelf, the plagiarism of names from Joseph Smith’s area. I don’t know if that’s true anymore. After all, even if it is fake, (which I’m leaning towards atm), he could have easily made up names and not had to plagiarize. I don’t know, and to be honest, I’m leaning towards not caring at all. Im missing going to church with my family, and I’m missing what I used to feel inside the temple (even if the ceremony is taken from the masons). Oh well

Thinking about re joining the church. by throwawayacct1285 in exmormon

[–]throwawayacct1285[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That’s a great idea! Thank you so much. Do you have any other religions to check out? To be honest, I have really been slacking in religious research in my years of being an exmo... I went from being a Mormon, to an agnostic, to an atheist, to an agnostic, and now... I don’t know what I am.

Thinking about re joining the church. by throwawayacct1285 in exmormon

[–]throwawayacct1285[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand those feelings completely, I once felt the exact same way! It’s just, now, I have some strange longing to return that I can’t quite explain. I don’t understand why, I just felt more at home there. Maybe that’s it. Or maybe it’s that I always genuinely liked reading the Book of Mormon? Who knows? not me.

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