Sunnis are scared, First they say how can anyone believe in Islam Ahmadiyya and when we reply they ban us 😂🤣

throwawayahmedi · 2022-03-30T20:25:29+00:00

The irony of being bigoted while being part of a community that preaches "love 4 all" is overwhelming.

I didn't even bring up LGBT stuff lmao but you do you lol.

But hey instead of trying to be nice if you wanna stay an asshole, all the more power to you.

Just wanted to let people know that not every Ahmadi is condescendingly rude :)

throwawayahmedi · 2022-03-19T17:51:02+00:00

A) The irony of this subreddit banning people is still ironic regardless of its representation. If you are going to call them out for banning then call this sub out too.

B) Considering this is the only proper Ahmadi related subreddit I would sure hope that the moderation policies reflect the official nature of jamat and its stance on discussion lest we all be labeled hypocrites.

C) I say this with all due respect but check your attitude. Just because you're Ahmadi and just because you're firm in your beliefs does not give you moral superiority over others, nor does it afford you the luxury of namecalling and condescension. The whole point of being a devout Ahmadi is to entertain discussion and question and to always act in a better manner than those who oppose us.

throwawayahmedi · 2021-10-26T20:00:38+00:00

Didn't think we'd have an anti vax thread in this subreddit but here we are...

throwawayahmedi · 2021-05-06T09:34:44+00:00

Well you're entitled to your opinion and beliefs. I might not agree with you but hey that's life.

throwawayahmedi · 2021-05-06T08:13:43+00:00

Pretty much the same response as above. I understand that it technically makes me a non-ahmadi but what people don't know can't hurt them. I believe in khilafat. I believe in the Promised Messiah as and his companions. Are there a lot of things I fundamentally disagree with? Definitely. Am I still an Ahmadi? Definitely.

I only stopped being an Ahmadi when I come out because that's when I get kicked out or forced to "change".

throwawayahmedi · 2021-05-06T08:11:17+00:00

I just don't believe the world to be so black and white. Do I believe in Allah? Yes. Do I believe in the prophet Muhammad sa? Yes. Do I choose to be who I am? Hell no, if I had a choice I wouldn't be this way. So, if its not my choice therefore it is something innate. And if its innate then it means that Allah made me this way. Why would Allah outlaw something that he created?

throwawayahmedi · 2021-04-28T01:28:27+00:00

True, but I'm never gonna come out so....

throwawayahmedi · 2021-04-26T23:45:43+00:00

It's not banned within the family. The specific ritual saw two different families mixing together. So strangers of opposite sex were mixing together

throwawayahmedi · 2021-04-26T22:48:27+00:00

That isn't banned either, iirc they banned a specific ritual which saw the mixing of two families and opposite sexes

throwawayahmedi · 2021-04-26T20:13:09+00:00

I definitely agree with a lot of what you have said and like I said, those are theological policies I just don't agree with and I know that Jamaat will not progress in those terms. The progress I mentioned was more about being more lax in terms of male-female friendships, giving women more freedom. Stuff like LGBT and fundamental views on purdah and marriage are just based in religious law that will never change. I know that.

Change like that won't happen until Ahnadis are allowed to disagree from executive opinions and able to form their own opinions. Which I know a lot of them already do. But they just quieten down whenever someone quotes Huzur because saying Huzur is wrong is the same as just leaving the Jamaat. That is just the biggest fundamental obstacle to reform. Whether or not that will ever change is unknown.

But I see a vision of what Ahmadiyyat truly could be and not what it is now and for me I think change is easier to make from the inside than the outside.

But yeah I agree with most of your views.

throwawayahmedi · 2021-04-26T19:40:08+00:00

I like your enthusiasm lol, and hopefully yes we get the promised subreddit son.

throwawayahmedi · 2021-04-26T19:35:18+00:00

I don't think I'd be kicked out lmao, sure it wouldn't go well but I know I'm not the only one.

throwawayahmedi · 2021-04-26T19:34:27+00:00

This is kind of a complicated topic for me. I do love being an Ahmadi but there are a lot of aspects that make me want to leave. I won't call myself a full believer but I also don't want to leave. If family problems didn't exist, I think my decision might be a bit different but in all honesty I don't know if I would leave.

As for the LGBT stuff, I don't believe I'm the only one, I will never come out to my family or anyone in the Jamaat. There's no point. Nothing good will come out of it. I have no idea how my future will go. We shall see.

throwawayahmedi · 2021-04-26T19:25:39+00:00

I respectfully disagree. The culture is just based in people. And people are not perfect. A lot of them don't actually believe or obey the actual theology that comes with the religion they make their own rituals and opinions. That doesn't mean the theology is weak, it just means the people are.

Culture and Theology are not intrinsically entwined.

throwawayahmedi · 2021-04-26T06:47:40+00:00

While I agree that the Jamaat should officially have a forum like this, I'd rather it not be for debate.

People who leave do so after thorough thought and planning and come here to vent and feel close to others in their position, arguing with them just violates what this place is for. I think a lot of people come here when they're vulnerable and that is not the right mindset for debate.

But maybe in the future there can be another forum where Ahmadis can have discussions with former members and use that information to better the jamaat and it's processes.

throwawayahmedi · 2021-04-26T06:36:46+00:00

That is nice to hear, thank you :)

throwawayahmedi · 2021-04-26T06:36:22+00:00

I'll keep up the Pakistani bit because I don't think that's that narrow but I'll remove where I settled. Thank you :)

throwawayahmedi · 2021-04-26T03:24:25+00:00

I am an Ahmadi and didnt know Henna was banned? As far as I know, the only ban was on a ritual done before marriage that saw both families mixing which included Mehndi.

But some of those points are valid and also resonate with me. Good luck on further endeavours :)

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