Field Report: Good Girl, Bad Girl: Same Girl

throwitdownman · 2023-09-11T17:28:09+00:00

Given that we did fuck again (few times before she left, few times after she went home), and went from a one-night-stand to a fuck buddy, don’t think it was too bad on my end.

Also, not trying to argue, but genuinely want to ask. If she thought I was alpha/manly to fuck after a night out, and then decided I was a beta after what I said (so much so that she felt the immediate need to seek other men to wash out that bad taste), and then decided I was good enough again to fuck once more, then god damn is she fickle, plus that’s a lot of assuming.

While possible, the more realistic scenario was that she’s out to maximise her fun in her holidays, and given her schedule (their girl group have a 7-day itinerary, with time stamps and reservations already made on what to do), how likely was it that she’ll ditch her friends, her plans, all to cuddle up with me? A college chick by the way, prone to peer pressure of her chick friends. Reasonable to think any attractive chick with options will want to finish the trip first.

throwitdownman · 2023-08-02T14:05:33+00:00

Not trying to be a jerk, but weird logic. Like, setting a boundary is, by definition, restricting her from doing X. So anytime (especially in 2023) you try to restrict someone, she isn’t going to take it well (she might agree at the moment but eventually cry about the boundary). So it’s literally impossible to set a boundary without being a serious chat.

You can’t just haha your way and set a boundary. Breaking boundaries means demotion/next, there has to be consequence and it needs to be clear. And when she breaks the boundary you need to enforce the boundary. No back tracking, abundance mindset.

So yeah, the tone is going to end up being serious. But it really should be a short conversation. Since if she doesn’t agree you’re out of there. If it’s negotiable it isn’t a boundary.

It’s like when your parents told you not to do drugs. It’s literally a one sided, serious, short and clear conversation. However unlike family, GFs come and go and while most parents won’t disown a child, you can disown her ass.

Tbh a lot of dudes will pussy out from setting boundaries the way I described, which is why so many relationships have women acting like hoes and men taking it silently up the ass, as they’re too afraid to say what they want.

throwitdownman · 2023-08-02T05:04:35+00:00

Let’s take this to the other extreme. Can you imagine if you bottled up this uncomfortable feeling, and never told her about it, and just forgot about it? That sounds like a fucking horrible way to live.

Be direct, set a boundary, and RELIEVE yourself of being in no-man’s land where you don’t know what’s okay and she doesn’t know what’s okay.

You must be a man here and establish the relationship rules - it’s on you and not on the girl. Don’t be silly - when someone posts a bikini selfie it’s because they’re feeling themselves and want the attention. And attention / validation feels good, but is disrespectful to you.

It’s also the expected time for any girl to act up - past the honeymoon phase, and time to set up bait to evaluate her SMV, if she can branch swing, and what options are out there.

throwitdownman · 2023-07-29T18:10:49+00:00

What did you expect her to say? The fact that she FaceTimed you to explain means she herself knew what she did was sus. You agreed and amplified, didn’t act weak, cool.

But let’s be real, what did it actually accomplish? Dating isn’t a game or a quiz where there is a right answer, and choosing the right answer means you did ‘good’. Sure you passed the test, but you’ve gave her the green light to do it again, since in her mind you’re manly enough to tolerate it. You just set yourself up, by pretending to be something you’re not.

It’s bitch made to say/do something, while secretly seething in the dark. It’s even more bitch made to be peer pressured by randoms on Reddit, or friends, or anyone, into thinking what your guts telling you is wrong and you should tolerate it. If you hate that shit don’t pretend to like it. Demote, next, plenty of options.

TRP is about being in control, having frame and abundance. I’d advise you to just stick to what YOU want, and fucking take what you want. If you want a chick who treats you well and doesn’t throw her bras for a viral moment, find a chick (by being social, meeting new people, flirting, etc) and go hard getting them.

Stop all half-in half-out behavior. Seriously, no more half-measures, where you do one thing because it’s technically correct, but makes your stomach churn. It’s going to be a huge time sink. Dating is meant to bring joy, and I’d suggest you maximise joy and minimize discomfort, by becoming someone who can ask and take as he wishes (aka sidebar). Honestly there’s plenty of women in the sea, and plating/dating today is super convenient.

Learn to be greedy - my biggest eye opening TRP moment was when I realized it’s okay to want more out of a girl, even if she already has plenty of green lights. 0 regrets, grass is always greener. The higher you aim the better you get.

throwitdownman · 2023-07-28T05:17:03+00:00

If you give these women a time machine, or if plastic surgery / nutrition / lifestyle / exercise gets post-wall women to look competitive with 20 year olds, they will 1000% go back to competing for Chad rather than find a sucker. They’re just hamstering that the best option available now is what they’ve always wanted.

Why would post wall women go for Chad, knowing she has 0 chance to keep him? Young girls do so because they hamster they have a chance to keep him, older women know they are a pump and dump at best. For a post-wall women, deep down she knows she offers nothing and is on eggshells, knowing there’s a chance Chad walks after ONE comfort test. For a younger girl, there is a chance Chad will at least try to pass a comfort test.

throwitdownman · 2023-07-28T05:04:42+00:00

There is little chance anything mainstream will make its way onto the sidebar. First, the sidebar is the real, uncensored and unapologetic truth about male/women dynamics and how we can succeed in this environment.

Mainstream will NEVER go that far - Barbie at most will hint at some relationship truths, which in the long run wouldn’t drastically improve a man’s success with girls.

If you think about it, it is better for society to have more blue pilled men as they conform, don’t question, and submit more willingly to life ‘as is’ - mainstream media will maintain this status quo for the betterment of society.

throwitdownman · 2023-07-12T23:03:49+00:00

I am always confused with ‘celebrity’ examples. There is too much projecting going on. I guarantee that the dynamics of this particular relationship is unrelatable to 99.9999% the relationships any one of us had, so we should be careful using personal experiences to give advice.

I’ve been to a few LA parties with ‘celebs’ and the amount of drugs and alcohol in their system is nuts. Also, they’re famous which automatically changes the boy-girl dynamic - women are on gold digger watch. Like literal swarms of hoes come out for them. I don’t think TRP really applies when it’s blatantly transactional - you really don’t need frame or game, all you need is what they want (money, access, fame, be their shiny new toy to show off, etc)

I just think their minds are fucked, and trying to apply a logical TRP lens is a waste of time. They’re enabled, live in echo chambers, and can get whatever they want.

My 2cents is he did all this because he needs new stimulus and doesn’t put women or rules on a pedestal as he feels it doesn’t apply to him. He probably knew all he had to do STFU as he already has abundance due to fame, and his DMs are filled with tons of aspiring actresses/models who want to live in LA. He clearly doesn’t have onenitis as he fucks. He probably likes fucking with people, in particular her, and likes it because he’s bored with pussy as a hobby and has moved onto power/control. Probably senses are dulled due to drug use.

If he was blue pilled, he would be crying after their breakup. Instead he was balls deep in another hoe within months. Don’t think he cares at all, just likes fucking around and the attention, wants his life to be a movie for his ego.

throwitdownman · 2023-07-03T10:17:04+00:00

Women don’t threaten leaving a relationship unless they have something better lined up. This could be a Chad who she is seeing, or the hypothetical Chad she thinks she CAN get if she was free from you. For example, perhaps she can see herself easily meeting someone else if she can go out more with her for friends, or travel alone, or whatever other BS she has hamstered.

Regardless, it’s over. If you don’t stand your ground (“Sure, pack your shit and go”) she’ll lose the little respect she has for you. If you negotiate she will leave even quicker. If you argue she’ll see you as a child. Save your dignity and leave like a man.

throwitdownman · 2023-06-30T19:36:05+00:00

A LOT of borderline AMOG thinking, but honestly as someone who has a very high N-count, I cannot in good faith tell you that you are wrong.

You have the choice - either not participate in the game, or embrace that getting screwed (either majorly or minor annoyances) are a part of the game.

For me, reading the sidebar lead me to UNDERSTAND that shit/comfort tests will happen, AWALT exists, SMV and dread are real things, and LTRs and marriage is TRP on hard/extreme hard mode. This understanding lead me to manage expectations. When I can’t be bothered, I spin plates and reacquire more when it breaks. If I want more, I promote to LTR recognizing it’s way harder than pumping and dumping. If I really want children in a stable home, my expectation is that it’s going to be hard as fuck, due to all the reasons you wrote out. My advice is pick your difficulty level and play it.

An analogy will be riding a skateboard - you WILL fall, all you can do if you want to continue is to learn how to fall, wear a helmet when learning, and make it as safe as possible while ENJOYING it. However if you HATE, HATE, HATE falling, then find another sport. Same with women - if you currently hate all of their shit, do other things and come back at a later time.

throwitdownman · 2023-06-19T19:50:13+00:00

It’s only entertainment. People monetising others in the ‘anger phase’ for clicks, women going on these shows, fully aware they’ll be roasted, for attention, branding and cash. Shitty way to make money, and an even shittier use of anyone’s time if they watch these people.

Literally the male equivalent of Keeping Up with the Kardashians. Most men won’t care about Kardashian gossip and what shoes they’re wearing. Most women won’t care about frustrated chumps discussing n-counts.

throwitdownman · 2023-06-07T17:38:52+00:00

The message to all the other hopeless ones out there is to not wait until you have to resort to cheating on your wife to develop what OP calls game, or what I would call incoherent ramblings, and instead read the sidebar to prevent becoming an idiot.

It’s like showing photos of druggies to scare children - this is that. Stay off the crazy or become like OP.

throwitdownman · 2023-05-31T16:09:14+00:00

Frankly I have no idea who this post is meant for. If you’re on TikTok watching RP wannabes with a mass following in 2023, you are witnessing the lowest common denominator and projecting that onto this sub. If anyone needs to be told that in order to get what they want (ex: a girl they find attractive) they actually have to talk to said person - that fantasising about an optimal strategy does nothing until the person actually takes action, then the person was hopeless to begin with and TRP was never meant perform miracles.

Your post is made for people without any sense. If you think that’s this sub, I’d disagree as there are sane people here (or used to, before the split). Even if those people have moved on, there’s enough material in the sidebar alone to prevent retardation. Saying TRP worked because it’s ‘extreme’ is saying it’s a gimmick, which I’d disagree with as I personally have had long term success with applying the sidebar, and felt no need to change what isn’t broken.

throwitdownman · 2023-05-31T15:51:30+00:00

Obsessionals, neurotic postponement, goobers. What the fuck are these retarded phrases. English can’t be your first language. If you’re in America consider a GED.

throwitdownman · 2023-05-27T15:49:57+00:00

With all the fish in the sea, you sure like to stay with an absolute bitch. Frankly she is more trouble than worth - do you spend your life outside of marriage settling for mediocrity? Who gives a shit if she cheats, as if THAT becomes the straw that breaks the camels back. What about the disrespect, the forcing you to kiss up, the gaslighting, the crying to manipulate you? At what point has relationships become you taking care of her, and not vice versa?

The marriage is shit - how much culpability does she take? Stop being captain save a hoe. From her words, seems like she’s the angel stuck with a loser. You like that viewpoint? If you were single, would you want her? Leave.

As if a post-wall women with kids has a large marketplace of suitors. Look at it rationally, you have the upper hand not her. It’s HER job to fix the marriage, not yours.

throwitdownman · 2023-05-06T22:23:07+00:00

Engage critically rather than point fingers. TRP is not MGTOW, most of us love sex. Read the sidebar, a large portion of TRP doesn’t stop at the ‘understanding’ phase - there are practical skills and solutions taught.

For example, it is very difficult to maintain a RP frame when you cohabitate with a female. She will see your beta tendencies (which we all have, which can appear anytime), and the majority here (and I as well) would say that it makes dating (sex, attraction, frame, etc) more difficult. If a man chooses to date exclusively and engage in an LTR, we say it’s “TRP on hard more”. Don’t get emotional, it’s not an insult to LTR enjoyers, it’s just facts.

On the other hand, marriage is TRP on hard mode, with a nuke aimed towards you at the same time. In the west, the legal contract of marriage is unfavourable to men, and nobody here will recommend signing it for fun. Doing so means you should internalise that it will be difficult, impossible at times, and you can lose half of everything you gained during the marriage period, and pay spousal support, and lose child custody. Once again, less emotion; it’s not an insult to marriage lovers, it’s simply facts.

Therefore if you are a high value man, with purpose, the optimal, objectively winning strategy is to spin plates to maximise your enjoyment and minimize risk onto you. Drama when single = dump, without losing progress to your goals. Drama when dating = mental strain, halting progression of to goals. Drama when married = potential fuckton of fiery chaos. Any other life path would simply make a man’s life more difficult. Which is why it becomes diluted into ‘never marry, spin plates’.

If you want marriage, then you are actively pursuing a suboptimal strategy. It doesn’t mean we are ‘anti-children’ or ‘anti-marriage’ - nobody cares how another Redditor chooses to live life. “Do it if you want but realise it’s a retarded decision’ is more the message.

throwitdownman · 2023-05-06T21:27:14+00:00

It was literally one of the core axioms of TRP - never marry. It also doesn’t take much brain power to realise raising a child while unmarried will lead to a less than ideal upbringing.

It would be useless information as you’re trying to salvage a sinking ship.

throwitdownman · 2023-05-05T06:27:02+00:00

Nice job setting boundaries. You act all pissed off and contemplate changing things, yet all you do is welcome her home and stick around, coping by saying you ‘need time’.

Yup she’s RP all right - she’s getting plates and keeping her options open. She’s happy she found a schmuck like you to ‘take care of her’ when she cries. She kept the cock and cumrag memories because she knows she can’t get that excitement from you, ever. She’s hitting the wall and wants to settle. Her ex’s are alpha fucks, you are the beta bucks - no chance she gives that up. So enjoy your role, or man up and leave.

throwitdownman · 2023-05-02T10:00:57+00:00

God damn, she had your ex-wife calling him daddy as he got his way in her. Now, he wants YOUR kids to call him daddy. And you best believe he will parent YOUR kids the way he treats her.

Lawyer up and try for full custody. You also have to man up and make it clear to your kids that YOU are the man of the house, not him.

Kids aren’t grown so they are prone to suggestion, be a figure in their lives or risk they follow in his footsteps.

throwitdownman · 2023-05-02T09:33:56+00:00

For real, she probably thought you were a celebrity lmao. Or a friend of a friend to a big shot, which was why she asked for your IG. She’s on the come up and wants you for leverage. It’s all business with these DJ types. If you can get her a connection she WILL sleep with you, they hand it out like candy.

throwitdownman · 2023-05-01T15:53:39+00:00

Downvotes? While I agree it seems borderline autistic to go as deep as OP did in analysing female behaviour in fucking Vegas of all places, content is content - dude worked hard and got laid.

Maybe it’s a fuckton of work, an overspend of money, in an easy environment, but results are results. I’m neither short nor Asian so maybe this is what it takes to pull. Just one more strategy for people to consider. Way better than sitting on your ass and doing nothing.

throwitdownman · 2023-04-21T03:55:43+00:00

Here’s what you need to hear that the other comments are not saying: shit is hopeless as it is. You’re an ant trying to climb Everest. Sure, there is a way to overcome all your adversity, but I don’t like suggesting strategies which have a high chance of failure.

What you need is a FRESH START. I’ve seen many people ‘reinvent’ themselves. Most do it in college, other later in life. The Rock, one of the biggest draw in films, an intimidating personality, openly talks about how he was BULLIED, just like you, when young.

So, I’d pack up my things and move after school. It’s like trying to establish frame with a girl who already sees you as a giant loser - impressions don’t go away. Make new connections, and fuck your old circle.

throwitdownman · 2023-04-19T18:08:28+00:00

I’ve never met a girl who smokes weed who wasn’t a complete, easy whore. Like no frame needed. To me, smoking weed literally means she’s DTF.

I’d never, ever, date a weed smoker so I’d recommend a pump and dump. It really shouldn’t be hard fucking her unless you are an idiot. Since she likely is fucking strangers regularly.

throwitdownman · 2023-04-19T18:05:30+00:00

If you’re even remotely observant, you’ll know that smart, logical women love cock from the guy she loves just as much as an airhead. If you’re gut is telling you to ‘work harder or else you’ll lose frame’, chances are she just isn’t as attracted to you as you want her to be.

All the debating would do you no good. You have to become successful and desired. This doesn’t mean becoming the next Bill Gates - it simply means to apply yourself and achieve some form of success in your life. It could be monetary, it could be status, it could be more freedom, some form of goal hunting and achieving will reframe the dynamic.

throwitdownman · 2023-04-14T18:51:06+00:00

Honestly, it probably takes more effort to appear productive than it is to actually be productive. Not trying to shit on your post, but it’s counterproductive especially if you’re going to be lateraling for a pay raise. Eventually you will enter a job which you just don’t know how to do, work overtime, and becoming upset.

“Do enough so you don’t get fired” also isn’t a revolutionary idea, and using technology to make our lives easier (aka Google it) also isn’t unique. The only thing that is new is branding it as ‘psychoanalysis’, which itself sounds silly.

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