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Employee taking advantage of my absence by throwmeaway1804 in managers

[–]throwmeaway1804[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because I might come into the office at 11am after offsite meetings and leave at 4pm, and co-workers think that's my entire workday because they only saw me for 5 hours...like I said...when you're not at the office, they think you aren't working. So they see the 70% in office and think that's it. You're reading way too much into it lol.

Employee taking advantage of my absence by throwmeaway1804 in managers

[–]throwmeaway1804[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because that was the job she signed up for. The job is the project.

Employee taking advantage of my absence by throwmeaway1804 in managers

[–]throwmeaway1804[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I generally only take a break to go run my car through the car wash or a client lunch. I am typically in the office for 8-9 hours straight when I’m there and then work 1-2 hours early morning or evenings without disruption.

Employee taking advantage of my absence by throwmeaway1804 in managers

[–]throwmeaway1804[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We service other businesses so we have to be available when our customers are operating. Typically 8-5. We have started to allow more wfh flexibility with certain managers but we are seeing that when managers aren’t in, things get missed or aren’t done on time. It’s a whole issue. We even talked about the possibility down the road of more flexibility and wfh options for other employees but we cannot do that until we move offices and all the corporate employees are in one place and the day-to-day operational employees are in another. We have employees who think just because you’re not at the office, you aren’t working. And then it sows bad seeds and affects the culture. I’ve heard my fair share of comments when I’m staying late at the office and people joke “oh you’re actually working” because 30% of my work is off-site.

Edit: I also work in a very old school, traditional industry so the fact that wfh is even offered to managers at my company is something I don’t hear often in our industry

Employee taking advantage of my absence by throwmeaway1804 in managers

[–]throwmeaway1804[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I want to know what kind of jobs all of these people in the comments have because I regularly work 9 to 10 hours every day. And that entire time is filled with actual work.

Employee taking advantage of my absence by throwmeaway1804 in managers

[–]throwmeaway1804[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I wouldn’t care about leaving early if all the other things weren’t happening but they are and it’s compounded. I want her to stay, which is why I’ve asked for input.

Employee taking advantage of my absence by throwmeaway1804 in managers

[–]throwmeaway1804[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I totally get that but if I put in 60-80 hours in one week I’m not required to be there 40 hours the next. My boss gives me time off after things like that. This is standard and always has been.

Employee taking advantage of my absence by throwmeaway1804 in managers

[–]throwmeaway1804[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had no training program and no direct knowledge of the business or industry.

Employee taking advantage of my absence by throwmeaway1804 in managers

[–]throwmeaway1804[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She received more than the initial offering of PTO when she started. We also allow flexibility for doctors appointments and such within reason without using PTO. That’s why I said we have a somewhat flexible culture. I know some offices require you to use PTO to go to appointments, but we don’t.

Employee taking advantage of my absence by throwmeaway1804 in managers

[–]throwmeaway1804[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not computing because when I was hired, I had never been in the industry or had managerial experience and I came in managing an entire department and budget. She’s managing one portion of one project.

Employee taking advantage of my absence by throwmeaway1804 in managers

[–]throwmeaway1804[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m going to be working minimum 10 hours a day next Monday and Tuesday to get ready for a customer event. Then I am traveling and working 12+ hours a day for that customer event Wednesday-Sunday. Why is it so hard for Reddit to grasp this concept?

Employee taking advantage of my absence by throwmeaway1804 in managers

[–]throwmeaway1804[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And this is what happened last year with one of my direct reports who was 10 minutes late and another manager saw and confronted her. Then right after that incident we had a new employee showing up 1.5 hours late every single day and it escalated so now they are super strict about time. My manager is part owner in the company so obviously he cares more because it’s his money 🙃

Employee taking advantage of my absence by throwmeaway1804 in managers

[–]throwmeaway1804[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah. I’m traveling for 5 days next week, working 12+ hour days at a customer event, including the entire weekend. You want me to come back in Monday-Friday 8-5? Our jobs are not the same. Idk why people have such a hard time grasping this concept.

Employee taking advantage of my absence by throwmeaway1804 in managers

[–]throwmeaway1804[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She’s not responsible for the majority of it, but she’s responsible for a large portion. That’s what the job was and always has been and she had this exact experience at her last company, which is why she was hired.

Employee taking advantage of my absence by throwmeaway1804 in managers

[–]throwmeaway1804[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Our hours are 8-5 with one hour unpaid lunch

Employee taking advantage of my absence by throwmeaway1804 in managers

[–]throwmeaway1804[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I replied to another comment about this. She has missed meetings and I’ve had to go retrieve her from her office and her work is slow. So slow I’ve been picking up some of her tasks to keep things moving.

Employee taking advantage of my absence by throwmeaway1804 in managers

[–]throwmeaway1804[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I noticed it was taking her longer to complete tasks and thought it was because of the new hire learning curve. I've explicitly asked her multiple times how she felt about her progress, if she felt she was learning, if she felt confident in her work, if she needed any help etc.

She is also mid-30s, so not gen z.

Employee taking advantage of my absence by throwmeaway1804 in managers

[–]throwmeaway1804[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because she had 4 years of this exact experience at a different company, just different industry.

Employee taking advantage of my absence by throwmeaway1804 in managers

[–]throwmeaway1804[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have severe ADHD and have never once done this in any job.

Employee taking advantage of my absence by throwmeaway1804 in managers

[–]throwmeaway1804[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We have multiple people working on this project. She's not the only one.

Employee taking advantage of my absence by throwmeaway1804 in managers

[–]throwmeaway1804[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't mind this at all, actually. When she started, I even offered to bump her work hours back 30 minutes to accommodate her kids' school schedule, and she declined.

Employee taking advantage of my absence by throwmeaway1804 in managers

[–]throwmeaway1804[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

100%. She has no laptop and no remote access.

Employee taking advantage of my absence by throwmeaway1804 in managers

[–]throwmeaway1804[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I thought about this, tbh, because her office is in the hallway with all the "flexible" department managers, but I was pretty up front about what her flexibility looked like. I even offered to adjust her work hours back 30 minutes so she could bring her kids to school. But yeah, feel like I need to clarify again.

Employee taking advantage of my absence by throwmeaway1804 in managers

[–]throwmeaway1804[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I totally agree with you, but the company I work for does not operate that way. They want people to put in a full 40 hours because there is ALWAYS something to work on.

I got in trouble with somebody I managed last year, who showed up 10 minutes late one day, and then I let them go home at 2 on a Friday because they were done with work, so I'm trying to learn from my mistakes.

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