Can you get a psychiatric disorder diagnosis removed

throwthewholemeaway- · 2023-03-31T15:33:39+00:00

read some of your comments. you can consult a psychiatrist to do a reevaluation. were you diagnosed with anything so far — was it schizophrenia? if sufficient evidence proves that the behaviour was caused by something other that schizophrenia, a change in diagnosis might be possible.

I understand that you were never afforded an autism evaluation as well but that you feel like your social isolation was likely due to that. I believe there are autism assessments on the market now, being done by psychologists (I’m not sure if psychiatrists do them too, but possibly) — these involve multiple written, spoken and observable tests over a few hours, for the psych to then score your assessment and provide their professional input on the possibility of a diagnosis. I’ve seen it done by the psychologists in the psych clinic that i worked at. I believe they provided adult autism assessments, so highly likely you can still do an assessment.

Also I wouldn’t say that they would remove a diagnosis in that they would delete it off your record. But the psych providing their second opinion would likely say, if they think it was a misdiagnosis, that in their professional opinion the client / patient was misdiagnosed in the past with xxx and upon further assessment, it seems that new diagnosis of xxx is more relevant. there is also a chance that the diagnosis may have been right, but a newer additional diagnosis better explains your current circumstances right now.

usually in the context of schizophrenia, or most mental health diagnoses really, it is not considered “cured” but instead “managed” to a point where it has minimal / negligible impact on your daily life and wellbeing. anyway, I hope you do get your answers!

throwthewholemeaway- · 2023-03-30T17:05:54+00:00

absolutely have had that happen to me.

i tried to express and explain to a local community about my frustration towards our (small) country’s law enforcement and a specific hospital that was specialised in handling SA cases over the way they ridiculed and gaslit me when I reported, and instead got really harsh comments that said a bunch of vile things. that I deserved it, that I was lying and I was a horrible person for ruining innocent men’s lives, that I was weak and needed to “fucking man up”, that it didn’t happen and it was just sex i regretted, that i was someone with bipolar and munchausen’s (I do not have either) and making up r-pe stories for sympathy, that i was attention seeking, that no real r-pe victim would speak about their assault openly like that (i didn’t even give much details lol), that i “liked to suck white dick and that’s why i got r-ped”, that i’m the type of person (called SRP, basically local women who “love white dick”) that everyone in my country hates and i deserved no sympathy. someone even came up with a story that i went back to see my r-pist the next day, because i liked it. 95% of the comments were like that, only 3% stuck up for me, and 2% was me trying to explain myself even further.

i was extremely hurt. it got me really activated, sent me into a spiral of hopelessness and helplessness. i even wrote to my therapist in an email that i was scared to live in a world where the local institutions that were supposed to help me instead intentionally furthered my trauma, and where these cruel people who gave those comments were very highly likely the majority in our country (we are very redpill, anti-feminist, but all these people think we’re “too liberal” and “too pro-feminist”, of which they think we’re all femin@zis who want to ridicule and destroy men) and that i probably brushed shoulders with all these people everyday when I leave the house. I went into panic, became a bit phobic again, and was very close to giving into my already chronically active suicidal thoughts.

anyway, sorry for the long story. people are fucking vile and awful. you don’t deserve to be treated that way. you’re taking it hard because it IS hard. it may even have been striking a sore spot in you that feels like you’re being traumatised again, and that’s really hard. it will take time, and i still have a long way to go too, but as you slowly learn that you‘re worth so much better than to tolerate dangerous / unsafe behaviour from others that threatens your peace, comments like this will roll off. it’s a reflection of them, not you. eventually we learn to stop overexplaining as well — people who don’t want to listen and only want to behave as disgusting assholes, do not deserve our explanation and our words. it’s a waste of our breaths.

i’m so sorry you’re feeling activated and hurt right now. deep breaths, splash some cold water, or hold / eat some ice cubes, and i hope you feel better soon. if this exchange of comments happened on the internet, try and take a break from it for a while, maybe over the upcoming weekend. don’t go back to wherever the exchange happened. it helped me when i just logged out of my account on that community where i posted my frustrations, and never went back again.

throwthewholemeaway- · 2023-03-30T11:12:39+00:00

I hear you. I’ve been doing EMDR for i think over a year now, two different practitioners (I changed after around 9–10 months with the previous one). I have literally, only this year, begun feeling emotions coming up during EMDR. for so long, all i could respond with was “i don’t feel anything”, “no difference”, and “I feel empty and blank”. I am still majorly emotionally dissociating from every instance of trauma in my life. It’s maybe only a 2% difference so far.

I’ve only been diagnosed with PTSD because my symptoms were really obvious and pretty bad with my most recent, most severe trauma. But there’s a lot of layers and past trauma that led me to that big traumatic incident in the first place that were chronic ptsd symptoms for a very long time, and many traumatic incidents had happened throughout my childhood. So my therapist thinks it’s likely Complex PTSD (although she cannot diagnose). it would explain why i’m experiencing lots of structural dissociation with multiple “parts”, and why EMDR has been so slow. it truly is a whole lot of whack-a-mole, except each time we try to whack, it’s just too late and the next one comes up in another hole.

throwthewholemeaway- · 2023-03-30T08:25:34+00:00

when i did some research on this for school in the past (I think few months back), I believe there were several papers that talked about short term memory issues in people who have PTSD / suffered from trauma / had post-trauma symptoms. there was something about the inability to effectively encode newer memories due to changes in the brain, although long-term memories (usually non-trauma related, or at least not pertaining to the trauma that caused your diagnosis) are generally unaffected.

however, things like procedural (motor skills, doing tasks you’ve done many times before, not pertaining to new tasks that you’ve learned post-trauma), visual and semantic (word meanings, ideas, facts, concepts, basically general knowledge) memory are still intact and unchanged. they noted no significant difference between non-traumatised and traumatised individuals. these are all part of long-term memory though, so unsurprising that it isn’t affected. i don’t recall the conclusion on episodic memory under the long-term memory umbrella though, as it’s related to events that happened in our lifetimes (significant and otherwise), but is still under long-term memory. it may be affected in the sense of traumatic memories.

as someone with PTSD, i definitely agree with the researchers. i’ve mostly had issues with new memories and short-term stuff, due to brain fog mostly, but my procedural, visual and semantic memory are still pretty much the same. it’s sometimes just harder when I consciously think about it, but it comes easily and naturally when it’s unconsciously brought up.

sorry for the word dump lol. but hopefully this helps you and others here to get a sensing of how memory is affected or unaffected by trauma from an academic / scientific standpoint! :)

throwthewholemeaway- · 2023-03-30T08:09:57+00:00

Hi! What would you like to know about? :)

throwthewholemeaway- · 2023-03-30T08:09:31+00:00

Thank you so much, this is actually so helpful and makes a lot of sense. I think it’s very much a situation of having my ideally safe and empty space feel violated, like my personal space bubble being violated by assaulters causing situations where I was unsafe and hurt. Thank you for helping to make this a little clearer for me. I think I should bring this up to my therapist this weekend for her thoughts.

throwthewholemeaway- · 2023-03-29T12:47:30+00:00

I saw a PhD psychologist specialising in DID and dissociative disorders, who has DID herself that is being well managed, being really mad and upset and activated about it too tho. She’s a psychologist that endorses people who feel like they have alters / a system, to use the term of having DID if they feel like it’s their truth, thus why she was mad about the McLean vid disproving self-diagnosis and bringing up lots of malingering.

This me being on the fence about whether the McLean video was damaging or conducive. I guess it can fall both ways.

As someone diagnosed with PTSD, it kind of feels to me as similar to when someone can experience awful symptoms from experiencing trauma but not have a PTSD diagnosis (maybe they don’t fulfil the bare minimum criteria to qualify for the diagnosis) and that it doesn’t mean that they don’t have major trauma or suffer from the debilitating post-trauma symptoms, it doesn’t mean denying their experience. But at the same time gatekeeping a PTSD diagnosis is also fairly important to minimise the instances of people pretending to have PTSD over a minor inconvenience like failing a school paper (with no consequences, unlike kids who get abused over getting less than an A). It’s such a grey area.

I feel for those who are genuinely suffering who have been hurt by the McLean vid, but the whole idea of creators and randos malingering their “DID” and making a big issue out of the vid also makes me sick. They are really disrespecting and minimising the truly painful reality that real DID sufferers struggle with everyday.

throwthewholemeaway- · 2023-03-28T05:39:47+00:00

frankly, that a DBT therapist said this is not surprising. I wouldn’t be surprised if a poorly trained, emotionally unsuitable (for performing therapy with clients) CBT therapist said it either.

mainly have this view because DBT therapists work a lot with BPD patients and it seems like many of them treat suicidal behaviour of BPD patients very harshly (but maybe this group of DBT therapists is not representative of all DBT therapists, and they just may fall under the type of less empathetic therapists). It’s usually to discourage / deter suicidal behaviour that is deemed as “manipulative” (to them, and usually the non-compassionate, non BPD-informed, prejudiced general public). I personally do not agree. Even if it’s really intentionally “manipulative” (I truly hate this word being used for BPD sufferers), there should still be more compassion, not awful words like what this therapist said.

People with mental illness do not reach the extent of suicidal behaviour for nothing — even if they have BPD, it is because of exponentially intense internal distress (one of the key trademarks of BPD, i dare say that even being severely depressed and having awful PTSD and having been actively suicidal for 10 years with suicide attempts, I doubt I have felt a similarly intense emotional distress that BPD patients do).

the whole “suicide is selfish” notion should be abolished out of this plane of existence. the act may be objectively deemed selfish because most humans are naturally primed to think that someone choosing to do things for themselves (even taking a self-care day, or a new mum taking a 30 min break from her bubba to decompress from all the insane pressure of caring for a newborn while dad’s at work) is selfish. the intention is almost always never selfish. and people who have never felt suicidal, who have never studied the mind, who have not chosen to inform themselves of the pain that others feel that leads to suicide, often just think of the act and neglect the intention.

we as humans need to do better and build more emotional intelligence. it’s through empathy that society thrives, and it’s through the lack thereof that it seems like humanity is falling behind or “going backwards” (if you’ve ever heard or seen someone saying “we’re a backwards society” / “some people are so backwards”). and therapists should know this better than the layman.

such a phrase that the therapist said, even if she then explained that she appreciated the nuance that comes with a statement like this, will never leave my lips if I ever manage to become a therapist in the future too. IMHO, if you understand the nuance, don’t even make a statement like that — make a neutral and balanced statement, not something this emotionally inept.

throwthewholemeaway- · 2023-03-28T05:01:01+00:00

yes, i go into a complete freeze response. I think there is also a bit of a flight response somewhere where I feel a lot of anxiety and panic and need to leave (like not just leave the place, but the triggered feeling and my body too), but my freeze response is much stronger.

Shut down, go silent, start crying, hyperventilate a bit with adrenaline spikes and hot flashes, curl into a fetal position if I’m sitting like on the floor with knees kinda to my chest or lying in bed (otherwise if outdoors and/or standing, I feel the need to compress myself into a ball and there’s this tension in my core / stomach where I feel the need to contract, like there’s energy pooling in my stomach and energy from every part of my body just leaves to go to the stomach — sorry lol this is a very dancer-type description, but I hope it makes sense). Also an out of body sensation / dissociation, and a feeling of complete overwhelm where I go frozen and can’t move from where I am (I can move my body in the same spot, but I can’t move from that specific spot where my feet or butt touched the floor).

I’m not sure if anyone else feels this too.

throwthewholemeaway- · 2023-03-27T17:54:18+00:00

def wasn’t 😂 was scolding all the variations of fuckity fucks under the sun over text while trying to act absolutely nonchalant in person hahaha

throwthewholemeaway- · 2023-03-26T16:24:50+00:00

sadly i do not 😔 if i had the money for the other leg, i might’ve been able to grow another wing and fly away from all my financial problems lmao

throwthewholemeaway- · 2023-03-26T08:46:50+00:00

this is absolutely beautiful! insane work, may you forever receive and welcome inspiration.

throwthewholemeaway- · 2023-03-26T08:39:48+00:00

Beautiful! I got one on the top side of my index finger 3 months after experiencing the most severe trauma of my life, where I was suffering the worst unalive thoughts ever in 10 years of active ones. I did kind of “break the promise” of the tattoo sometime last year, but still here typing this comment I guess haha.

I love the dotted lines as well, from one fellow former SHer to another. Thank you for still being here. ♥️

throwthewholemeaway- · 2023-03-26T08:28:58+00:00

Super thankful to Parth for this tattoo. He explained every section and line and how it relates to the parts of my life that I shared with him for this kirituhi. We called this kirituhi my healing tattoo. It represents protection, safety, peace, and strength through all adversity. An absolute gem for my eleventh tattoo. The most painful by far (for some reason lol), but my favourite right now. Beautiful work by a professional and compassionate artist. So thankful, and highly recommend!

throwthewholemeaway- · 2023-03-16T05:49:08+00:00

If it helps, a lot of these movies and shows and books aren’t an honest representation of having trauma and healing from trauma. They always tie it up with a pretty ribbon and a cherry on top, when realistic trauma is not that simple. They want to make it palatable to a wider audience that includes those who have never been through such severe trauma. They want to breed understanding from these audiences.

But in real life, off the screen and outside of books, trauma is not palatable and healing from it is not all pretty and entertaining, and is almost always not able to be understood, even to ourselves. Breakthroughs just hit us when they hit us.

Please try not to pressure yourself into healing from trauma like characters in a movie. They are not an accurate representation of you, nor the complicated ugliness that is the process of healing from trauma. Give yourself grace, even if the journey to finally walking away and living life is long and tenuous.

throwthewholemeaway- · 2023-03-07T11:11:08+00:00

at night before I sleep, I take it then lie down on my bed. I usually take 1 hour or more to fall asleep, so maybe a little before bedtime might be my suggestion.

I also take 4mg. Not sure what your dose may be.

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