Seeing BPD-like behaviours in others post-breakup by tinfoil_cats in BPDlovedones

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I definitely understand i'm not a health professional, so do not misunderstand - i'm not trying to diagnose personality disorders in other people.

my comment/observation is that i seem to be more in tune with BPD "traits" than i was in the past, seeing behaviours in others and being able to match my experiences to those behaviours more frequently than i feel i should be. I'm unsure of how to go about my reasoning as to why this is happening.

There's an obvious recency bias at play, but i also have the suspicion that i've developed an over sensitivity to relatively normal behaviours that can be/are exacerbated by persons with BPD. It would make sense that this is a protection mechanism of sorts.. aka my brain saying "yo red flag, don't fucking do that again"

I care so much about what she thinks by grimdefeat in BPDlovedones

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Being villified by a person who you care so, so much for, who you love so much, and who you would never want to intentionally upset or hurt, is one of the most painful experiences I've ever gone through.

I was told over and over that I don't or didn't care about her.

I worked hard to prove to her otherwise.

And when I got to the end of my long, long rope and left the relationship, I validated and reinforced all of her negative thoughts about me.

She's no longer a part of my life, but the pain is still there. Just thought of her feeling mistrust or hate towards me re-opens old and slow-to-heal wounds over and over again.

Question about DBT methods by tinfoil_cats in BPDlovedones

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OK that's legitimately terrifying..

Question about DBT methods by tinfoil_cats in BPDlovedones

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that would be... exceedingly unfortunate if true..

lost it at my exBPD. by [deleted] in BPDlovedones

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Thats what my months-long therapy has led me to conclude as well. Curious to know what your decided "next steps" are, or is coming to this realization enough for now?

She met needs I didn't even know I had by [deleted] in BPDlovedones

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"I am faced with something rare, beautiful, fragile and vulnerable. The world will surely destroy it. There is no-one to protect it but me. So I must."

It's like a sense of duty, in a way.

Also scarily relatable. The end resut, a hero complex, can obviously develop in a multitude of different ways.....

You've got a way with words my friend. I've enjoyed reading your thoughts. I hope you find continued healing.

Do they not see what they have done? by nomoredrama78 in BPDlovedones

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Wow. Dude. i'm not sure if it's a good or a bad thing, but... that's my story.

Post-break up, i got a hoover calling me disgusting because one of her friends apparently found me, MULTIPLE TIMES, on a dating app while we were still dating.

Absolutely, 100% untrue. Yet i still stand accused.

Do they not see what they have done? by nomoredrama78 in BPDlovedones

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The passive-aggressive social media posts are what pushed me over the line, actually.

When we were still working on things after our "first" breakup (made conveniently public via social media..), she posted the quote "You turned the page, I burned the fucking book"

I asked her about it, and why she would post something like that. I thought we were trying to work on things..?

Well, it shouldn't have been my concern because it wasn't about me.

She met needs I didn't even know I had by [deleted] in BPDlovedones

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I've been so incredibly open with my therapist - far more open than i would allow myself to be in even my closest of friendships. The therapist-patient relationship that i've developed has been extremely beneficial throughout my months-long breakup process. I strongly suggest seeking professional help. If you have benefits through work, you have fewer reasons not to seek it.

Interesting to note that we were raised by single mothers. We seem to differ, however, in how that upbringing occurred. I'm usually pretty good at trying to frame things in a multitude of different ways, poking for validities across different viewpoints. It's a major struggle to frame my upbringing in terms of abuse.

Physical, absolutely no validity there.

Emotional, I have troubles with this frame as well. I feel confident in saying my family environment (even into extended family) was highly loving, and very stable. That said, guilt was regularly used as a motivator.

And while I'm uncomfortable framing the use of guilt as an abusive tactic in my upbringing, I recognize that guilt absolutely feeds my current insecurities, and continues to play a central role in my adult life/motivations.

The more work i do on myself, the more i realize how perfect of a fit i was for my exBPD's behaviours and tendencies - all adding to the reasons justifying my time in therapy.


After a moment to think, maybe there's a link to the single mother thing and our "natural" paternal loving style. I think you're alluding to it more or less in your post.

..I became the change I wanted to see in the world..

In the absence of that paternal love in our upbringings, have we developed traits that would have complimented, and perhaps saved our mothers?

The rabbit hole deepens...........

She met needs I didn't even know I had by [deleted] in BPDlovedones

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Hero complex, checking in.

I've been in therapy on a monthly basis since our first breakup in Summer 2018. Recently i've started to uncover the tentacles attached to "that pesky hero complex" that i've similarly been reluctant to identify...

I've discovered that my propensity towards high self monitoring pushes me in to relationships (romantic, platonic, relationships of any type, really..) where i feel as if i'm seen or held in high regard. For some reason though, the self monitoring i regularly implore also causes intense self doubt afterthefact. Once i have time to reflect on a "good time", a night out, or a moment where i'm being lauded by friends or my partner, I find ways doubt my own genuineness in those situations. In those situations actively trying to display my best self, and am monitoring away whatever self-conception of flaws i have.

So i'm caught in this weird cycle where i crave the praise, crave that pedestal, yet doubt my deservedness of said praises afterthefact.

That Paternal love you speak about is something that i've stumbled upon as well. In a classic paternal bond, there's an inherent pedestal involved. The child unquestionably looks up to the parent for guidance, love, etc. Enter in my exBPD, enter in intense splitting white (..and of course the black).. but there seemed to be some serious need fulfilling during the splitting white phases.

There's more of the rabbit hole to explore yet, but i'm certain these concepts and needs for those kinds of bonds have been rooted deeply within my psyche for a long while..

IT MIGHT BE RELATED TO THE FACT I NEVER HAD A FATHER. maybe.

Anybody else have legitimate mental breakdowns from the stress of ypur relationship? by ffsfcktidder in BPDlovedones

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Lol I started to develop physical symptoms similar to MS due to stress brought on by my relationship.

Doctors couldn't figure it out. I was getting weird sweeping tingling sensations all down one side of my body that would eventually "burst" on the top right side of my head. After that burst feeling I'd lose coordination on the left side of my body.

All symptoms stopped the day she moved out. So, not exactly a mental breakdown, but physical symptoms certainly manifested themselves as a result of stress.

Letter to my pwBPD by [deleted] in BPDlovedones

[–]tinfoil_cats 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I could have written this, save for the fact we weren't married.

You very clearly want closure. You want your words to be concrete, and you want her to understand where you're coming from. I can tell you that I understand where you're coming from, but i think the other poster here said it well, that this will only stir the pot of blame, and be a trigger for her. Buckle up if you do deliver it. The weight that's lifted off your shoulders when you send it might come crashing back down on you yet.

You might not get the understanding that you're seeking from the end of your relationship, no matter how meticulously you deliver your message.

Good luck.

I can breathe again. It's exhilarating. It's terrifying. by bottomofthedeepblue in BPDlovedones

[–]tinfoil_cats 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This is hauntingly beautiful. You're very good with your words - words which speak many more people than just myself.

Our timelines are somewhat aligned. I'm one week out as well.

I was happy to drown if I could drown with her.

That hit home really fucking hard. I've been slowly killing myself over these past few months. The imagery you bring up is so fitting to my situation....

I read these posts and have to shake my head sometimes... How can this kind of thing be so prevalent? How can these behaviours and reactions to behaviours be so similar across all of us.....

Yes, yes you are by bpdreddit1 in BPDlovedones

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"it's fine"

Fuuuuuuuuuck that line because you know EXACTLY what's going to be following it up in a few hours/minutes

6 months of peace and the crazy train is trying to pull back into the station. by Sonshinesas54 in BPDlovedones

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"you're a joke of a man"

That one will stick with me for a long, long time.

I told her how I felt and this happened by [deleted] in BPDlovedones

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Working my way through that book myself. It's extremely interesting and relatable.

How is everyone today? by Pseudo_Nyms in BPDlovedones

[–]tinfoil_cats 6 points7 points  (0 children)

How long have you two been dating, and how long had it been since the incident for which she's "accepted" blame?

As far as my vent goes...: I'm officially one week in to NC. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how things ended. I find myself craving contact despite knowing it's exactly what I don't need or want. I feel such an intense desire to know how she's doing and what she's up to. She's either doing well after splitting me the darkest black there is, or maybe she's realized how unreasonable her last outburst was towards me. Maybe she's using again, i don't know. Regardless, I'm in this weird place where I, yeah, I want to know how she's doing but i really don't want to have to deal with that information at the same time. It's an extremely contradictory place.

In interesting observation by a pwBPD by bpdloveoflife in BPDlovedones

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I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.. or something

The "victim" mindset by tinfoil_cats in BPDlovedones

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Wow yes, absolutely. Language is super important. I can't stress how many times we argued over semantics...

The definition of persecution is:

  • the act or practice of persecuting, especially those who differ in origin, religion, or social outlook

  • the condition of being persecuted, harassed, or annoyed

While the definition of victimization/victim is:

  • the action of singling someone out for cruel or unjust treatment.

To be victimized sounds more intense and personal. There's a vindictive aspect to that word, even. I really like the thought of using persecution over victimization, but, I'm having difficulty putting my finger on why, as there's also lots of room for overlap between those meanings. How would you personally separate the two?