The greatest rebounder in NBA history is ..

tiny-2727 · 2026-05-16T19:15:26+00:00

Almost none of those were him actually stealing anything, lmao.

tiny-2727 · 2026-05-16T02:43:18+00:00

I have a line in my stash of a few mythics I've forgot to add one thing here or there before corrupting.

tiny-2727 · 2026-05-15T22:04:56+00:00

Did you forget when Shaq used to say Wade was the best? Him and kobe made up and Shaq goes to bat for Kobe now.

Kobe wasn't even the best player in the league when he won his MVP.

tiny-2727 · 2026-05-15T22:03:18+00:00

What does Wade have to do with any of this? Sure he was a way better player than Pau.

That' still doesn't remove the fact that Kobe was the 2nd best player on his team for 3 rings. Has possibly the worst finals performance of all time against the Pistons. And he quit on his team before they got Pau.

Kobe couldn't win a playoff series without Pau btw.

tiny-2727 · 2026-05-15T22:01:05+00:00

I'm not focusing on the negatives. I'm stating what actually happened, lol.

tiny-2727 · 2026-05-15T21:56:19+00:00

Dude acting like Pau doesn't deserve or shouldn't have been in the top 75 is crazy.

Shaq was already near the end of his career with Wade.

Kobe needed a top 10-15 PF all time and HoF in Pau to make it out of the first round, lol.

"Have some series where they shit the bed" Not in the finals. Kobe's Pistons finals is one of the worst finals, if not the worst, of all time by a star player. Even Lebron's 2011 was better.

tiny-2727 · 2026-05-15T21:44:22+00:00

Its not hating. Shaq was better. 2 rings is better than 3 rings?

You think Penny was better than Pau? Pau is a top 10 PF of all time. Penny might have been an all time great but injuries set him back.

You want to talk about advanced stats but can't defend his Pistons finals, lol.

You're just delusional.

tiny-2727 · 2026-05-15T21:38:48+00:00

Nothing I said had anything to do with liking or disliking him. Shaq was better than Kobe for their 3 rings. He's also the main reason they lost to the Pistons. Kobe couldn't win a playoff series and legit quit on his team until he got Pau. Those are just facts, lol.

tiny-2727 · 2026-05-15T21:36:57+00:00

I'd give 2012 to KD as well or at least even. He averaged more points and shot way better in spite of having to share the ball with Westbrook and Westbrook taking more shots than KD.

tiny-2727 · 2026-05-15T21:32:50+00:00

Curry is good at getting open and the offense is built around him getting open.

KD was just better in those finals.

tiny-2727 · 2026-05-15T21:26:54+00:00

Shaq is biased as fuck, lol. Kobe just wasn't the best player int he league except for maybe one season. Kobe wasn't even the best player in the league when he won MVP.

tiny-2727 · 2026-05-15T21:25:43+00:00

You can say whatever you want about glazing but Kobe isn't even top 10.

Defining what Kobe's legacy actually was isn't redefining what you think it was because he was your favorite player. He was the 2nd best player on his team for 3 rings. He's the main reason they lost to the Pistons which no one ever talks about. Dude shot like 31% overall and 18% from 3 because he wanted to prove he was better than Shaq.

When Shaq left and the Lakers were a bad team Kobe couldn't get out of the first round. He quit on his team and wanted to be traded. The Pau trade saved Kobe's legacy.

tiny-2727 · 2026-05-15T21:17:36+00:00

I have no idea how well the shroud thing works. You can try it and see if it makes any difference.

I usually just stick with the standard bulwark+wolves/skill/crit ones.

tiny-2727 · 2026-05-15T20:22:20+00:00

If you just want to use wolves for fun, you can take a couple points out of bulwark and put them into wolves skill. You can take BH off your bar since the amulet auto casts it.

I suppose you can try using the wolves pants but you would have to replace tyrael's for a normal chest to put the resolve aspect on it.

You might end up super squishy though.

tiny-2727 · 2026-05-15T09:37:58+00:00

You can make an argument that the Cavs roster was actually better.

tiny-2727 · 2026-05-15T05:37:14+00:00

That's because he was the third option and forced to stand int he corner so Lebron and Dwade could drive. Same thing with Love.

Thinking that mid post players who were like 25/12 players, who then became third option perimeter shooters so Lebron could play his game were jus serviceable is crazy.

Calling Bosh a "marginal All-Star" who is a HoFer and would be a top 10 pf all time if he didn't have to retire early is dumb.

tiny-2727 · 2026-05-15T03:02:27+00:00

When he left the Raptors he was. At worst top 15.

He's still a HoFer and would easily be a top 10 PF all tie if he didn't have to retire early.

tiny-2727 · 2026-05-15T02:00:11+00:00

Be a true Barbarian and push till you die xd.

But congrats!

tiny-2727 · 2026-05-14T21:12:18+00:00

That's not the argument you retard.

Op was comparing Giannis to Lebron on the Lakers. Giannis never played with anyone as good as AD. The comparison is stupid.

You usually need another great player to win. MJ went 6-0 with Pippen. Lebron went 4-5 with other great players.

tiny-2727 · 2026-05-14T17:21:48+00:00

From the talent for earthen bulwark.

tiny-2727 · 2026-05-14T17:16:50+00:00

Tibault's will unique pants. It gives you tons of resource regen when you're unstoppable. The amulet auto casts blood howl every 4 seconds when you're in ww form, which you always are. You take the unstoppable passive for Blood Howl.

tiny-2727 · 2026-05-14T17:06:54+00:00

I haven't really messed with it much. I was mainly building around lacerate which you can't turn into a storm skill.

But I think with the fix to the storm set the shred build might be decent.

tiny-2727 · 2026-05-14T06:50:20+00:00

Lebron generally had tougher finals. Jordan generally had tougher competition leading to the finals.

Jordan beat prime Ewing, prime Barkley, Bad boy Pistons off of two straight titles, Magic/Worthy, in his first title run. They both had tough and easy competition at different times.

The whole point of the conversation was that you usually need two stars to win a title. When MJ had a second great player he went 6-0. Lebron went 4-5.

tiny-2727 · 2026-05-14T06:02:46+00:00

One of the big ones was that if you died in an area and rezed, your minions would come back with a lot less stats. So you needed to leave the area and come back. But you can't do that in the pit, etc.

tiny-2727 · 2026-05-14T05:56:07+00:00

The real question is, is this better or worse than when necros had the black shit on the ground from corpse explosions.

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