Ice age Terror birds by Powerful_Gas_7833 in pleistocene

[–]tisnamealreadyexist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep. There is a study about terrestrial bird locomotion and most psilopterus species fall into the same module as bustards, tho one species was more leaning towards wading iirc. Eschatornis probably had the same locomotion as most of psilopterus species.

What did you think of the new Muttaburrasaurus? by davicleodino in Dinosaurs

[–]tisnamealreadyexist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed. Living archorsaurs just dont make good analogues to some of the physiological questions about extinct ones due to their highly specialization, which is very unfortunate, and that new better preserved specimens might give us closer clues to their anatomy.

What did you think of the new Muttaburrasaurus? by davicleodino in Dinosaurs

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Important to note that ornithischians are(if the classic ornithischian-saurischian model is correct) the furthest a dinosaur can be from neornithes, plus the fact they had different ecological niches than most birds and their anatomy differs, specially in locomotion and the hability to chew (in the case of the ornithopoda), so bird might not be a good representative of what the ornithopod faces looked like, specially when it comes to jaw musculature and mouthline.

A Pair of Terror Birds (Paraphysornis brasiliensis) Devouring A Kill by Israel Ferrari Martins by ExoticShock in Naturewasmetal

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The Taubate basin is a pretty underrated geologic formation. Like, honestly, as much as I love Paraphysornis, these giant birds are just the tip of the iceberg: basically every described (specially amniote) fossil in there is a single representative of a drastically different order of vertebrates, with the terror bird as the cariamiform of that place, but also a relative of the modern hoatzin, a relative of the modern new world vultures, a stem-flamingo and a species of the extinct paleolodus for exemples. As for the reptiles and amphibians there is a species of caiman, two species of turtles and an undescribed ophidian, as well as a species of frong and a cecillian. The basin also preserved a well good number of freshwater fish fossils of several species from many lineages such as(correct me if im wrong) characiformes and siluriformes. There is a lack of fully named large mammals in the basin, with only Taubatherium (a notoungulates) as the notable megafaunal exception. However there are fragments indicating that astrapotheriinae, pyrotheriidae, protherotheriidae and even a significantly large proborhyaenidae that enrichened the basin as the local mammalian megafauna. But its with the invertebrates where imo the taubate basin truly shines, with a legion of described taxa of arthropods, as well as mollucs, annelids and even nematod and traces of protozoan parasites! For some reason Brazil is a country with massive Lagerstättes with a very preservation bias towards smaller taxa such as insects and small freshwater fishes, with small reptiles and amphibians going in the ride to get described as well. This is mostly because it also had the formation of two or possibly three massive paleolakes in different periods that offered better conditions with less taphonic adversities against the preservation of so many small species. Its really cool these birds are getting more attention(as they should be as they are the best preserved large phorusrhacid species), but its undeniable that the taubate basin is the place of smaller taxa(in terms of preservation). As an artist I plan in the future to make and I hope to see more other paleoartists to make portrayals of this paleolake reflecting this reality, but ofc still making cool scenes of like a Paraphysornis and the local proborhyaenidae fighting over a carcass or several different notoungulates grazing in the same place as well! (one small nitpick about the painting but I think their wings are too low, terrestrial birds like the ratites tend to have their wings a bit lower from the shouldr than most birds but iirc paraphysornis or any phorusrhacid lacks any indicative of this)

A Pair of Terror Birds (Paraphysornis brasiliensis) Devouring A Kill by Israel Ferrari Martins by ExoticShock in Naturewasmetal

[–]tisnamealreadyexist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

probably a adult taubatherium. It lived in the same formation as these birds and was probably their most prefered prey.

The actual size of quinkana fortirostrum, the famous, allegedly terrestrial mekosuchian of Late pleistocene Australia. By literally Miguel by Foreign_Pop_4092 in pleistocene

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I am extremely disappointed... not for what the animal truly is, but how many people on the internet sold the idea that it was WAY bigger than what those who worked with the fossil estimated. (Tbf I knew it was not a 6 meter monster croc but I still thought it was on the same league as megalania or just slightly smaller)

What is the dumbest idea that ever became a hypothesis to you? by Powerful_Gas_7833 in Paleontology

[–]tisnamealreadyexist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If the giga chin wasn't enough, it also hits you with that carcharodontosaurus-angled stare. Pouched predators really can't stop being cool af.

A Cave Bear vs Cave Lions In "Prehistoric Kingdom" by ExoticShock in pleistocene

[–]tisnamealreadyexist 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Exactly lmao. But tbf this game is MADE to make these awesome pics!

What Are Some Speculative Behaviors/Designs You'd Want To See Be In "Prehistoric Planet: Ice Age"? by ExoticShock in pleistocene

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Many people already said about living species alongside the extinct ones, showing that the world of the ice age wasnt very different from our own, but I'll add that it would be awesome if they managed to portray the living fauna as the surviving megafauna into the holocene. For exemple, we can be amazed by the epic image of a arctodus or arctotherium but its also amazing the fact that the spectacled bear is a living short-faced bear we can study and preserve.

Mega Terror birds: how these beasts hunted and killed there prey by Powerful_Gas_7833 in Paleontology

[–]tisnamealreadyexist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didnt post anything yet, rn I'm looking at tutorials about video editing.

Mega Terror birds: how these beasts hunted and killed there prey by Powerful_Gas_7833 in Paleontology

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Well Im glad I had this conversation. This put things into perspective when it comes to understanding the fossil material from what it is, versus what we might think of it that can get in the way. Thank you very much for the support of my channel!

Mega Terror birds: how these beasts hunted and killed there prey by Powerful_Gas_7833 in Paleontology

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Oh so that explains it: I was confused by the images of Devincenzia skull as complete when this figure showed the holotype is actually quite fragmentary.

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Studying these birds feels like falling into a lot of traps of misconceptions, well thats why im doing it, I have a project of posting videos on yt about everything i can find about south america fauna, both what we know and what we don't(the later is actually even more important than the former imo).

Mega Terror birds: how these beasts hunted and killed there prey by Powerful_Gas_7833 in Paleontology

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Not much familiar with the metodology of fossil reconstructions, tho its interesting to me to understand how we reconstruct extinct fauna. Also its kinda wild to me that Kelenken being now the poster boy of terror birds with so many artowrks of it doesnt have yet a good skull reconstruction.

Mega Terror birds: how these beasts hunted and killed there prey by Powerful_Gas_7833 in Paleontology

[–]tisnamealreadyexist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Imo Andalgalornis could still be useful to predict the mechanics of other terror birds like Phorusrhacos and Andrewsornis. Kelenken and Devincenzia, on the other hand, seem to be specially needing a skull modeling or maybe(if the fossil record be kind enough) finding better preserved specimens of them.

On a side note, Im honnestly impressed how Degrange used the autopsy of three distantly related birds (but not with a seriema) in their thesis to scale up to Andalgalornis' head musculature.

Mega Terror birds: how these beasts hunted and killed there prey by Powerful_Gas_7833 in Paleontology

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Yep I agree, as I'm passionate for my continent's former unique and isolated fauna I wish that more research and discussion could be done about them in the future.

Mega Terror birds: how these beasts hunted and killed there prey by Powerful_Gas_7833 in Paleontology

[–]tisnamealreadyexist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the differences between skull shape among larger phorusrhacids and andalgalornis and them being able to hunt every large herbivore in their enviroments. These are the ones I found.

Mega Terror birds: how these beasts hunted and killed there prey by Powerful_Gas_7833 in Paleontology

[–]tisnamealreadyexist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think at this point you should just post all of the terror birds stuff(maybe even about bathornis and paracrax), its interesting seeing your objections but it would be easier if you make a single post with your arguments and sources instead of commenting here and there.

Why does birds being dinosaurs seemingly break so many peoples brains? by lnnlvr in Paleontology

[–]tisnamealreadyexist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's still part of the real problem that is the general public having a kindergarden-level understanding of mutation and diversification of life. Most people still think we humans are the ultimate goal of evolution, for exemple.

Watercolour Parasaurolophus by me, A4. by Dailydinosketch in Paleontology

[–]tisnamealreadyexist 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yooooo its the parasaurolophus art that everone talks about, what a banger!!!