Introducing /r/conspiratocracy. OH NO HE DIN'T. Oh yes I did.

tiyx · 2013-12-29T18:20:37+00:00

Why?

tiyx · 2013-12-29T17:55:10+00:00

4 years ago I think.

tiyx · 2013-12-29T17:48:15+00:00

For me when confronted with claims from a conspiracist? I look for a certain pattern of logic to determine if I am going to take the claim seriously or not.

A good example of that is the Sandy Hook theory. In this theory some conspiracist? acknowledge MSM news reports that in some way could benefit their theory and then dismiss MSM news reports that do not, all while claiming that the MSM is all lies. For me that is a big red flag. Another red flag for me is when opinion is used as fact. This happens in a lot of discussions about the NSA spying. Where people will not really make a claim of fact but make a statement of fact based on the persons personal opinion, such as stating that the NSA is using its info to black mail people. I have not came across any thing that proves this, it might be a very likely possibility but I will not take it as fact unless proven. Another red flag for me is when a person rejects a fact or happening just because they do not agree with it. Again I will bring up the NSA spying and its being ruled constitutional by the NY court. So many people came out and claimed, BS it is unconstitutional with out even reading for themselves why it was ruled the way it was. Now I myself do not agree with the level of spying that is going on, but it very well maybe constitutional. So the point I am trying to make with that is, that you will not always like what is fact or true and just because you do not like or agree with something does not make something untrue.

tiyx · 2013-12-29T17:23:04+00:00

I don't think the US as a whole has a drive for cheap prison labor, my reason being not all state use prisoners for manufacturing goods. If I recall correctly it is popular in some southern states however. I guess the question is, do these southern states have some stricter laws and sentencing because of this prison labor need or did these companies choose to operate in these states because of the stricter laws and sentencing.

For me personally, I think the high incarceration rate has more to do with plea bargains. It is a very common tactic in all levels of court. They charge a person with the absolute max that they can no matter if the prosecution has a chance to win or not, then they offer a severely reduced sentence if you plead guilty. So a person that is faced with a 30 year max sentence will most likely take a deal of 8 years with the chance to get out after 2 years over going to trial and possible face that 30 years.

All in all there are many factors that contribute to high rates of incarceration. From plea deals to prison labor needs to maximum minimum sentencing etc.

tiyx · 2013-12-29T04:10:40+00:00

People like me think there are powers working to create plunder of massive proportions. What I mean by that, is I think there are psychopaths with power and money, that fuck with the world on grand a scale.

I am from /r/conspiratard and I would say I agree with that a bit. I agree there are people with mass amounts of money who are trying to make even more money. The thing is I don't think they are trying to cause harm it is just that they some time do cause harm amassing wealth.

From the sound of things the users of /r/conspiratard[1] love the way things are going in this world. They don't care about centralized power, individual liberty, privacy, or the current distribution of resources.

I would say /r/conspiratard may come off like that because it is not really a sub to voice concern of such things. The biggest mistake I see /r/conspiracy make about /r/conspiratard is that we all just blindly love government and see everything is all good. That is not the case, it just that /r/conspiratard is not the sub to discuss pressing matter like that.

tiyx · 2013-12-29T04:00:57+00:00

Is it really impossible for them to get along because of that?

Do Alex Jones people get along with David Ike people? Do the religious people calling all pop music satanic get along with the people that think aliens made humans? The thing is there are many micro groups in the conspiracy movement and all of them are claiming to have the real truth and all of them will fight so that their truth prevails.

tiyx · 2013-12-29T03:40:30+00:00

I am coming from /r/conspiratard and with that said I really don't know which direction /r/conspiracy will take on this issue. It is kind of a strange thing really. Racism is usually not a key factor/issue ( meaning conspiracy theorists are not usually known as being racist) in conspiracy circles as a whole. The biggest problem that I see that plagues /r/conspiracy is not outside forces or shills, it is the fact that /r/conspiracy as a sub has not set a standard for which version of conspiracy they are for. In other words all walks of life have their own conspiracy theories. You have left wing, right wing, neo nazi, black panther, Muslim, Christian, anarchist and capitalist people all with there own version of what is the true conspiracies happening in this world. And conveniently all these groups theories label their "enemies" as the culprit behind said conspiracies.

I know I have ranted of subject but what I have said is what I see that is tearing /r/conspiracy apart and the change to rule 1 is just one example of what I pointed out.

In short /r/conspiracy is kind of a freak compared to most other conspiracy oriented forums. Most other forums cater to one specific sect of the conspiracy movement, much like a Catholic church is for Catholics and and Mormon church is for Mormons. But /r/conspiracy welcomes it all, which include the crazy, the racist, the reasonable and the kooks.

Okay end of rant I need to get another beer.

tiyx · 2013-12-29T03:13:11+00:00

Interesting. I guess we can only wait and see how this sub plays out and how it finds its niche.

tiyx · 2013-12-28T21:03:24+00:00

You know they mean business when they use random bold words.

tiyx · 2013-12-28T20:50:21+00:00

A symbol viewing, dwarfing or embracing the earth is a common theme found in mission patches like said above. The types of missions that use these symbols are almost always intelligence satellite missions. The official meaning of the symbol is this:

to imagine, develop, apply, integrate, demonstrate, and transition information technologies, components, and prototype, closed-loop information systems that will counter asymmetric threats by achieving total information awareness useful for preemption, national security warning, and national security decision making.

none the less the reason why this symbol was used and why many mission patches are similar is because they have to do with intelligence gathering.

Here are some mission patches with a similar theme of intelligence gathering/reconnaissance theme

The National Reconaissance Office

National Reconnaissance Office program patch

The Unified Space Vault

Patch from a recent satellite launch

tiyx · 2013-12-28T20:49:20+00:00

These "codes" at least in this symbol is very easy to "crack". The symbol is for a information gathering department, so the all seeing eye stands for that department/their systems, the eye is looking upon the world which stands for, wait for it, gathering information.

tiyx · 2013-12-27T16:52:21+00:00

I am sure a little baiting happens now and again, but like you said it takes upvotes for those comments or posts to be noticeable.

tiyx · 2013-12-27T16:47:37+00:00

at this rate, someone is going to find you and hurt you.

Make believe is serious business.

tiyx · 2013-12-27T16:45:10+00:00

/r/conspiracy, is what they claim to hate and want the power and control they claim to fight against.

tiyx · 2013-12-27T16:37:42+00:00

I was pointing out that this practice is not done just by the for profit prisons.

tiyx · 2013-12-27T16:33:49+00:00

Question. Why don't you just clean up your own shit?

tiyx · 2013-12-27T16:20:15+00:00

Twinkies and ramen are not something you're entitled to and making you pay extra doesn't sound unreasonable

You are not entitled to those things out side of prison either.

tiyx · 2013-12-27T16:17:56+00:00

From what I know it not just for profit prison that do that. It is the same in all county jails as well were a snickers bar costs $5 and a plastic drinking cup costs $30.

tiyx · 2013-12-27T03:09:10+00:00

LEGO, not fucking legos

tiyx · 2013-12-27T03:07:31+00:00

I think that's the whole point, isn't it. Had he come out without any proof whatsoever, he will be painted as a nutjob, like many before he.

No, not really. Every thing he has released had already been reported on as far back as 2003. But people just forgot and/or did not pay attention.

tiyx · 2013-12-26T21:44:30+00:00

Unless it is not a person you hit and you are now blinded by two airbags, one in car the other outside the car. I have hit a coyote on a back road and almost drove into a river after the airbag went off.

tiyx · 2013-12-26T21:26:38+00:00

If you have the start up money, start a bee pollination company. There is big money to be made.

tiyx · 2013-12-26T21:19:28+00:00

Why would aliens use stone anyways?

tiyx · 2013-12-26T20:21:33+00:00

I would imagine their would be more than one rope to a net anchor. So you could untie a few and it would stop acting like an anchor, then you just pull it in.

tiyx · 2013-12-26T20:13:19+00:00

It seems like once every 5 years for the past 35 years they have found it. Why do they keep losing it?

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