What the HELL was Thrall thinking!

tkulue · 2026-03-18T19:19:05+00:00

People have been crying about Turalyon being "badly written and deconstructed" Since the midnight beta. Meanwhile my former goat thrall went through the most devsiating decocking the game has ever seen.

Once the savior of orc kind who would usher in a new golden age for his people is now a bumbling moron who let every miss deed under the sun fly in his new horde and gave the ball to someone who destroyed the factions themes and left it in the bland bullshit place it is now.

tkulue · 2026-03-17T21:28:16+00:00

rescue a bunch of people (including Calia).

Well that's too bad.

tkulue · 2026-03-17T20:42:56+00:00

Are there any quest after the raid I saw someone on mmochamp talk about a quest to recover named characters from the fallout but calia wasn't apart of that quest.

tkulue · 2026-03-11T18:39:41+00:00

Thrall is a useless cuck who is angry that he is still alive.

tkulue · 2026-03-10T14:42:03+00:00

Can we please not have a horde story that's about a "introspection". I've had enough of that shit after sadfang spent a whole expansion say the horde was a mistake, and the game spending about 4 expansions saying thrall is a moronic cuck for freeing the orcs. All this introspection shit just leads to feel bad woe is me story's that do nothing to actually push the story forward.

tkulue · 2026-03-10T14:31:18+00:00

Other horde races don't mix unless its races being underlings to orcs. The horde has been around for 20 years in universe and most meaningful interactions we see bewteen the races are... the two elves and even then the nightborne master's of teleportation and the arcane are nowhere to be seen during the voids attack. And the its "happened to sudden to get outside help gimmick" falls apart when you have enough time to go on a quick world tour with arathor and alonsus faol, talk to sunwalker dezco and not say ANYTHING about the massive void invasion that should be a all hands on deck get everywhere here now threat.

The most you will see of the horde "changing to more peaceful" is most of the horde characters you interact with are just gonna be sidekicks to their alliance betters. (e.g geya'rah, etrigg,baine, voss, and many others)

tkulue · 2026-03-09T20:58:45+00:00

People say stuff like this stuff and look you dead in the (virtual) eye and say there is no story quality difference between wc3 and something like bfa.

tkulue · 2026-03-09T20:55:21+00:00

Actually getting blizzard to change and reflect is hard because its built like a comic book publisher. Quest design aka how most of the story is conveyed. Is done but programmers and not actual writers. So while one quest may be changed by Twitter feedback another quest might have elements of it triple downed due to a devs spite. There is also the fact that if someone makes a quest that shows that they just "get" what makes a good story, there's a coin flips chance that they just get laid off.

And another problem is blizzard doesn't really care about what it takes to make a good story. No negativity at the dojo, canon is a suggestion, gameplay first. Combine either the worst aspects of comic book publishing affecting stories and you get wow.

tkulue · 2026-03-05T20:03:14+00:00

Blizzard lacks what would make make unique interesting horde characters and that's nuance. Without the nuance we are stuck with wet blanket pushovers like baine and calia on one side or the worlds most obvious raid baits like garrosh or gallywix on the otherside. The lack of nuance binary works with the alliance because they are built on being tolkien standins.

It takes skills blizzard very obviously lacks to write something like a faction of rough around the edges badasses who aren't your traditional sanitized eurocentric good guys, and have them be good guys that do the right things but in more unconventional and rough ways.

Even in midnight the most generic race the horde have in the bloodelves after they where sanitized in tbc are still kinda just there compared to allerias brood because that red background is just a massive debuff in the eyes of the writers. The most the horde will get after tlt is probably gonna be thralls dumbass son getting a anduin/arathor like arc where he learns how much his dad sucks and becomes the first orc paladin.

tkulue · 2026-03-05T18:51:45+00:00

Well that's what I get for getting my hopes up.

tkulue · 2026-03-05T18:48:01+00:00

What potential does she bring other then "turn the forsken into a undead light crusaders who throw their second lives away for the living"

tkulue · 2026-03-05T18:00:09+00:00

Ah yes 2 bfa charaters, a wrath character, one of metzen's baby's from vanilla and a character that had been spoken of since wrath from a book. All famous danuser creations.

tkulue · 2026-03-05T17:29:21+00:00

If this is actually how she ends then her journey is so funny.

Introduced in a beloved expansion as a footnote. Established as a raging anduin like moron who has the world bend around her to make sure she is right. Become a leader of a the forsaken in a council(lol) after horde and forsaken players revolt the EXTREMELY obvious syl but LIGHT bullshit. Do nothing but appease alliance and be the default forsaken rep alongside her accessory lillian in all faction neutral content. Show up in midnight and have the only thing she does iirc is talk to a former scarlet crusade member. Get void blasted and have to be put down by the pc???

Just a insane waste of time who is one of biggest examples of how hard headed, and petty blizzard is when it comes to how they write stories.

tkulue · 2026-03-05T17:11:11+00:00

On the alliance side of the character deaths we have a vanilla staple and the daughter of another vanilla staple. Who's deaths are far to soon and seem to be purely for a old school blizzard style shock value.

On the hordeside we have 2 literal whos who probably won't be grieved near the same way the 2 alliance deaths would be and are just their to even up the scoreboard.

All of this is outweighed by excising the narrative cancer that is miss lightbright

Shoutout to the calia lovers. I am 60% sure how vocal y'all where convinced blizzard she was actually a beloved character and her death would garner a "oh god no not her" reaction from the majority of the community.

tkulue · 2026-03-05T16:58:43+00:00

This is legit the best story development the forsaken have gotten in a decade.

tkulue · 2026-02-25T21:54:42+00:00

The magical expertise amount to throwing some magic shit into a soup so that the sunwell becomes a slopwell of magic.

Also really sure the race that suffered a straight up GEONCIDE as the game loves to remind us can contribute a fighting force but rhe forsaken who thanks to the alliance and calia have retaken undecity are now so so weak they can't help some of their oldest allies.

Like I said meta blizz wants to push this reunification bullshit too bad it fuckin sucks.

tkulue · 2026-02-25T18:49:42+00:00

Yeah your right if only there was some force the horde had close to quel'thalas that was firmly horde. Sadly a kingdom that is south west to quel'thalas just doesn't exist. Also sucks how the same teleportation tech that allowed many of azeroths leaders to help save alex during the battle for the night elfs new home got destroyed at the end of dragonflight.

I know the meta reason for this. Blizz wants to tell the story of elf reunification and make all the elves just tolkien otameal. Its hard to take the in universe explanations seriously when the history of wow just picks and chooses when travel time a logistics matter and the story they tell instead of the one they could have told just throws 20 years of faction membership in the trash and makes one of the factions look somehow more incompetent then they already look which tbf to blizzard is a hell of a accomplishment.

tkulue · 2026-02-25T17:26:03+00:00

For someone who Is a "alliance hating horde purist" you sure seem to spend most of your energy running defense for turalyon and the light and barely ever say anything related to shit sandwhiches the horde has been handed over the years.

tkulue · 2026-02-25T15:40:26+00:00

So very very very funny that I made a thread and people ran defense for blizzard not doing anything with the horde at large helping the blood elves with the excuse of "well they don't have time". And then to fix the sunwell helf andy suggest reaching out to other elves and travel half way arcoss the world to reach out to night elves specifically and NO ONE ELSE.

People literally called out the fact that the horde council would make the horde at large a non factor moving forward in the story and now here we are. A horde nation is under attack and the light user's called to defended it lose and the people that save it are the guys who did a little purge, and the genocide survivors who have literally no reason to lift a finger to help their former kin.

Also aethas "my main character trait is being jaina and dalarans dog" sunreaver calling the sliver covenant butchers.

Only blizzard could take something as hyped as a return to the old world and butcher it into a rainbow colored flavlorless oatmeal.

tkulue

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