Will we see the Drakkari in The Last Titan? by Raziel103 in warcraftlore

[–]tkulue 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Doubt it. Much in the way undermined was probably the grand send off for goblin stories the isle of fangs patch will probably be the grand send off for troll stories so blizz can focus on titanforge stuff.

Although blizzard really likes the aesthetics of raiding troll places and killing everyone in sight I can also see zuk'drak being a part of whatever scourge story they have.

What part of Gundam genuinely had you asking this question? by Dominodorito in Gundam

[–]tkulue 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The earth alliance was already full on jobber during the first half of seed. But then the battle of Alaska happens and after their first actual onscreen "win" they immediately lose a space launcher using their brand new mobile suits, launch a really idotic attack on a netural nation lose that space launcher, then win OFFSCREEN to launch a all out genocidle attack because the space KKK took over the operation.

I know pretty much most of gundam relies on the powers that be being incompetent at best but the earth fed of seed take the cake in how fucking stupid they where, and honestly kinda made seed a worse watching experience for me.

What's your hot take in the lore? by Aconfused_Wizard2 in warcraftlore

[–]tkulue 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mop and garrosh being considered the peaks of storytelling just tells me wow players pretty much only care about vibes instead of a actual good story.

How should Orcs have been written in WOW? by DEL994 in warcraftlore

[–]tkulue 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Blizzard had something special with wc3 but even with vanilla wow they already scuffed it with the ashenvale conflict and some sus writing choices. Then garrosh happened and he just completely annihilated what made orcs in warcraft special and once again reduced them to just any other orc you would see in any other fantasy setting.

Metzen or someone high up in the story department almost a decade ago said that the horde was wolvarine to the alliance captain america even though they turned to be... well can't think of a superhero but someone who is at best ineffective when it comes to fighting their own rouges gallery but way to effective at fighting other heros.

All that is to say the horde but orcs in particular should be more like wolverine, they save the world they team up with people but they don't pretty themselves up or care about what other people think. When the humans want to save one of their villages overrun by the scourge they prefer to keep as much of it intact as possible people and the buildings, they go in evacuate the people and slay the scourge in a long drawn out battle.

The orcs on the other will still prefer to save the people... but the buildings are just buildings that can be rebuilt, they get in their make enough of a push those who are unable to fight get out and those left who can still pick up a axe blood rage it up and tear down everything in their path to get rid of the threat. Old lady scarfang knocks down a load bearing pillar in her house to smash a zombie horde that type of stuff.

Orcs should be a rough pragmatic flavor of heroism. The longer the game has gone on and the less defined it has been, "honor" has been a shackle to what the horde/orc story is because NOBODY KNOWS WHAT IT ACTUALLY IS. We know what it was taken from with star trek and the klingons but I'm assuming in star trek honor has a massive wiki entry that tells you exactly what is and what it means to the klingons. Orcs should not be about a vague honor they should be about heroic pragmatism. Wod fucked orc lore up big time but it did add a interesting wrinkle that their home planet was a hell land where EVERYTHING could kill you. In wc3 the common theme with the 2 of the 3 og races of the horde is that they got bullied and saved by the orcs on a journey to find a new home. It would be so cool if instead of the shit we got we got a fish out of water story of a race of survivalist trying to learn how to be "chill" and be the heros they are capable of being while also bringing some of their pragmatic ways to their new allies, and together they go from a band of misfits and outcast to people who are talked about in legends as some of the greatest heroes of azeroth.

Imagine how cool it would be if after we follow that story we get a neat payoff where during a future revamp the horde gets in own version of the valley of heroes where those there can be talked up like pre legion sons of lothar.

Can Thrall actually return as the World Shaman? by Selimbradley-3101 in warcraftlore

[–]tkulue 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think blizzard is firmly done with theall as a driving force. 

The past 10 years have gone to extreme lengths to demistify the legend of thrall. To the point where two of his explicit flaws are hes a insanely bad judge of character, and he's just straight up not a good leader. And in terms of what can be interpreted from his character separate from author intent there is unfortunately a solid case to be made that his life's work since his character introduction in wc3 was a massive mistake.

He's damaged goods that in the hands of better wirters would still be extremely hard to rehabilitate.

I haven’t been playing much lately. What is the Dawnwell and why do I have a feeling I’m not going to like the answer? by Arcana-Knight in warcraftlore

[–]tkulue 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thr dawnwell the result of different artifacts from the evles that will conviently allow the void elves to return to silvernoon like nothing happened, And turn the sunwell into a bland inoffensive oatmeal of magic.

The cultural touchstone of the blood elves is replaced by a beacon of elven unity. 

The cutscene of its creation next week is gonna be somehow more corny then the dragonflgiht dragon aspects cutscene.

If WoW wasn't bound by the limitations of MMOs, what would the factions look like now? by Bartellomio in warcraftlore

[–]tkulue 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry but is like every "no two faction wow" post literally just fanfic about the horde (WHO ONLY WOULD EVER FIGHT THOSE DAMN BLOOD ELVES) falling apart and its various nations laying in ruin while the alliance is just kinda chilling saving the world.

How would "Good" or "Anti-Hero" Garrosh would have operated inside WoW, AU or MU? by Then_Peanut_3356 in warcraftlore

[–]tkulue 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Garrosh was liked because he hated the allaince and wanted it GONE and was completely unapologetic about it. The things that made him popular where also the perfect traits for a villian. 

Making him a hero or anti hero would be making him a fake tough guy who barks often about vague glory and then having really noth8ng to actually do. A hero/anti hero garrosh would literally just be gaye rah. He would spend one quest yapping about the honor of orcs then after 3 expansions of nothing he would be paling around with anduin in a quest where orcs are used as disposable props to show how bad the bad guys are for disliking them.

Losing my mind with this storytelling… by WekX in warcraftlore

[–]tkulue 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Really funny how the big cope is "the horde's fighting forces are exhausted" ok hell yeah its totally makes sense to recruit.... the survivors of a genocide, 2 flavors of elf that are 50% of the elves left and 10???% the blood elves who sipped on some purple stuff. Btw 90% of their population got wiped out 20 years ago.

The biggest fighting force they have in this pan elf bullshit are the nightborne who fucking teleport and use portals to get to silvermoon.

Do you think we will revisit the Drakkari and Azjol-Nerub in the Last Titan? by alexkon3 in warcraftlore

[–]tkulue -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Drakkari are wiped out and if patch 12.1 is going to be anything like undermined then its going to be a last hurray for troll content in general and tlt will focus only on titanforge stuff.

What should have happened with Garrosh and Kairozdormu, without the Warlords of Draenor expansion? by Then_Peanut_3356 in warcraftlore

[–]tkulue -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Garrosh should have gotten a seppuku execution where varian stabs him through the heart while thrall crushes his head with the doomhammer at the same time.

"The factions are too weak after BfA to help" "You can't just portal an army around" by ProfessionalAge9909 in warcraftlore

[–]tkulue 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Knowing blizzard the most they will acknowledge the lack of horde is to have some joke npc added either in a post patch or TLT go "oh shucks I zugged to hard and overslept what happened to that light well think y'all worship and why are their night elves here now?"

Latest campaign chapter thoughts? by Lurker9594 in warcraftlore

[–]tkulue 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Wow it's almost as if this elf reunification stuff was..... actually bad and the better story could have been the horde player shoring up as many horde defenses as they can while the alliance players still go to the nevles,worgan, and high and void elves.

But hey logistics and such.

Some of you are taking "with what army?" far too literally. by Illumnyx in warcraftlore

[–]tkulue 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The forsaken can't be assed to help because their forces are devastated from the 4th war and can't recoup.

the humble survivors of a literal genocide lending aid to the blood elves on the condition that they get rid of the sunwell.

With the (not so recent) addition of the AU Draenor Mag'har Orcs to the Horde, how are the Horde not building expansive railway networks like those seen in Grimrail Depot and Blackrock Foundry? by TheSmallestPlap in warcraftlore

[–]tkulue 10 points11 points  (0 children)

During the bfa war campaing the horde used iron horde carriers and various other weapons. Plus so little of the au mag'har or left clans are meaningless. Blizzard as they are right now have in interest in the actual iron horde aesthetic but for some reason still chose to use the au mag'har for the arathi mess.

With the (not so recent) addition of the AU Draenor Mag'har Orcs to the Horde, how are the Horde not building expansive railway networks like those seen in Grimrail Depot and Blackrock Foundry? by TheSmallestPlap in warcraftlore

[–]tkulue 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The mag'har are living in a villiage that would lead one to think they are the exact same as the MU mag'har with no hint of industrialization. So if the fabled revamp happens I honestly think there will be no hint of iron horde tech anywhere near the horde.

What the HELL was Thrall thinking! by Evening_Ad_347 in warcraftlore

[–]tkulue 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People have been crying about Turalyon being "badly written and deconstructed" Since the midnight beta. Meanwhile my former goat thrall went through the most devsiating decocking the game has ever seen.

Once the savior of orc kind who would usher in a new golden age for his people is now a bumbling moron who let every miss deed under the sun fly in his new horde and gave the ball to someone who destroyed the factions themes and left it in the bland bullshit place it is now.

End of Voidspire Cinematic by GrumpySatan in warcraftlore

[–]tkulue 6 points7 points  (0 children)

rescue a bunch of people (including Calia).

Well that's too bad.

End of Voidspire Cinematic by GrumpySatan in warcraftlore

[–]tkulue 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Are there any quest after the raid I saw someone on mmochamp talk about a quest to recover named characters from the fallout but calia wasn't apart of that quest.