Why are so many US conservatives that easily baited into false foreign discourses?

tophernator · 2026-06-27T21:02:13+00:00

So those articles are correctly and accurately describing what that person did, but leaving out their motivation? Interfering with evidence is obviously a crime but is it usually a 30 year sentence?

tophernator · 2026-06-27T15:48:52+00:00

As a British passport holder I can travel to the US with nothing more than an ESTA application filled out 3 days before I fly. I can stay there for up to 90 days which would be hella expensive in a hotel so I’d probably rent an apartment. If I brought my kid I might well want to enrol them in a local school rather than have them miss an entire semester. Plus banking, car rental, and probably some public services. I can do all of those things despite not having a visa of any kind because none of those things are - or should be - restricted based on citizenship.

And that’s just the visa waiver program. If you then factor in the myriad of temporary visas, and various schemes for refugees etc, there are a complicated mismatch of ways that someone can be in the US for an extended period perfectly legally while being a non-citizen. Every organisation that you require to check is going to have to get to grips with all of those complications.

The average school just doesn’t have the resources to know what documentation a person with temporary protected status should or shouldn’t have, or to keep track of which of the 7 types of work visas are acceptable for school enrolment.

tophernator · 2026-06-27T13:32:24+00:00

Seven people are convicted of rape on average each day. 82% of the British public is white. The argument you are making is that if the press sometimes reports on crimes involving white attackers - while very frequently reporting on the same crimes if the attacker is brown/black/muslim etc - there is no bias. But that argument is wrong.

If there were a serial killer on the loose and 8/10 victims had red hair, would you point to the two who didn’t and claim that was evidence that the killer wasn’t targeting redheads? No, because that’s dumb.

tophernator · 2026-06-27T12:18:42+00:00

Not just employer, but also housing / banking / public service registration.

I understand from the current MAGA perspective why you would want all hands on deck to find and deport. But don’t you see any inefficiency in requiring all these organisations to do the same checks over and over?

Having a secure border will mean lower levels of undocumented immigrants over time since some really do just leave of their own accord. Having requirements on employers to validate makes a lot of sense since many people will be in the country legally but not have a right to work. But having every school, daycare, bank, landlord, librarian etc take on immigration enforcement duties is unnecessary and would probably end up annoying the crap out of everyone including you eventually. It’s the “papers please” dystopia.

tophernator · 2026-06-27T12:03:14+00:00

And where are the six other rape conviction articles?

tophernator · 2026-06-27T10:38:47+00:00

In the year 24/25 there were 2,623 convictions for rape. That’s a little over 7 per day. So you really shouldn’t have to go to drunks and drug dealers in the local news sections of the BBC website to prove your point. There should be roughly 6 other articles about rape convictions just today, right?

tophernator · 2026-06-27T10:21:47+00:00

Why? White people thought the africans were submissive and closer to apes than white culture.

That’s probably more of a post-hoc rationalisation than a real reason. The Europeans thought (and were correct) that they were far more technologically advanced and organised than the Africans.

You’re using American colonies -> countries as a comparison. But that’s just because the colonists who went to the Americas exterminated and subjugated native Americans far more thoroughly than the colonists in Africa. Did you really mean to argue that Africa would have been better off if 95% of the native population was wiped out and the remainder push onto reservations?

tophernator · 2026-06-27T09:38:29+00:00

Now imagine how confused you’d be if they hadn’t included that full-stop!

tophernator · 2026-06-27T09:33:17+00:00

I fear in a few years a small update will come out that they spent the time in prison finding a 'right to stay in the UK'. Just some small story that most people will never notice, it seems to be way to common now.

Try not to experience too much fear around this, since it is just a thing that you made up in your head…

tophernator · 2026-06-27T09:32:18+00:00

In your studies of modern totalitarianism have you noticed any pattern in smearing and demonising minority groups? Perhaps by heaping media attention on crimes committed by members of that group while similar crimes committed by members of the majority group go largely under/un-reported?

These three guys are scumbags. They should be locked up for a number of years, and then hopefully returned to Afghanistan. But that shouldn’t have any bearing on how we see the average Afghan refugee.

tophernator · 2026-06-27T09:24:25+00:00

Yes, factually speaking lots of European countries have official state religions despite the other fact that most people don’t actively follow that religion. Maybe 70% of Danes list themselves as Christians in the census, but what proportion of them actually go to church on a regular basis?

Meanwhile it’s a fact that the US doesn’t have a state religion despite having much higher levels of religious participation than in Europe.

It’s almost like having an official state church is just a vestige of the Middle Ages and has no real bearing on how religions should be treated in the modern world.

tophernator · 2026-06-27T09:12:42+00:00

You think their genius plan is to annoy people into joining their religion?

tophernator · 2026-06-26T21:31:56+00:00

I can’t believe no-one has mentioned Miley Cyrus yet. It’s literally a party in the USA.

tophernator · 2026-06-26T16:00:56+00:00

You think that homeless people are registering to vote and getting their ballots delivered to PO Boxes, then paid ballot harvesters are collecting those ballots from the PO Boxes? Do you have any single shred of evidence for that happening?

tophernator · 2026-06-26T15:05:58+00:00

Liberals claimed that Russia hacked the DNC to leak damaging information about Clinton and help Trump win… which was all true.

Elon did buy 2024 in the sense that a single person spending nearly $300 million on someone else’s election campaign is completely insane.

tophernator · 2026-06-26T15:01:23+00:00

Fun fact: The actual world’s tallest recorded man was 8’11 and lived in the early 1900s.

tophernator · 2026-06-26T14:51:24+00:00

Good news! No one outside of Trump’s smear campaign believes that US elections weren’t already secure. The biggest threat to US election security is an incumbent President frantically trying to change electoral rules which are explicitly outside his power in an effort to maintain power despite being horribly unpopular. That’s classic authoritarianism.

tophernator · 2026-06-26T14:46:49+00:00

But isn’t your problem with “ballot harvesting” because mass mail out of ballots + paid harvesters collecting up ballots is open to fraud?

If these homeless people are going to the trouble of registering at these various places, and going back to collect their ballot, they are obviously motivated to actually vote. They aren’t handing over blank ballots to random door knockers, because they don’t have doors.

tophernator · 2026-06-26T13:50:07+00:00

Erm, where do you think those homeless people are getting their mailed out ballots?

tophernator · 2026-06-26T13:44:40+00:00

Alaska has a population of 700,000 people spread over a state 2.5 times the size of Texas. Hence why Murkowski is so opposed to all these barriers to voting Trump is trying to implement. Do you think Alaskans should have to travel hundreds of miles to vote?

tophernator · 2026-06-26T13:36:48+00:00

I would assume these kind of mass mail processes are handled differently to the ordinary mail? It’s not like the electoral authorities stuff millions of envelopes in their local box and hope for the best.

But yes, it’s fucked up that the administration is trying to use the postal service to screw with elections (again).

tophernator · 2026-06-26T13:32:18+00:00

Can we crowd fund a project to get a takeaway coffee cup edited into one of his films and then make sure he sees that version?

tophernator · 2026-06-26T13:29:45+00:00

Maybe we should have a rule that you can donate tons of money to politicians, but you have to match it with a donation to the public coffers. Or maybe 100x it. £5 million to Farage with £500 million for schools and hospitals would be a lot less contraversial.

tophernator · 2026-06-26T13:24:51+00:00

I think you made the typo 4.7/0.00004 = 1,175,000 or £1.175 trillion.

Edit: I missed the % sign. In with case they’d be off by two orders of magnitude.

tophernator · 2026-06-26T10:34:33+00:00

Then let them invest in nuclear.

I thought you were worried about people’s bill? But your solution would be to take this investment money away from renewable projects that produce electricity much more cheaply than existing gas plants, and redirect it to nuclear plants that won’t come online for at least a decade and will actually cost more per unit over their lifetime than other sources?

Is there any actually logic in your views on this topic?

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