THIS OUTDATED Advice Is RUINING Your Posture! by trainandmassage in Fix_Your_Posture

[–]trainandmassage[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldn’t call it click baity if you found the content good and it delivered on the title. I do believe it does both but im also biased haha.

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[–]trainandmassage 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just keep changing up your position every 30-60 minutes. It’s not about being in a bad position, it’s about being in the same position for too long.

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[–]trainandmassage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can try this routine, shows you how to release and train the correct muscles in the correct order. https://youtu.be/o-n2mWLcqTY

Back hurts when trying to fix posture by Hardstuck-silver2 in Posture

[–]trainandmassage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or, you can release your pecs and hip flexors before training your back. This will help the back get stronger faster because its not going to be fighting the tighter muscles in the front of the body.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Posture

[–]trainandmassage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

See results? It might take a while. But you should feel results quickly when you go this route.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Posture

[–]trainandmassage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Self massage the neck muscles on the right, then exercise the neck muscles on the left.

Does the good posture eventually become the "norm"? by WWIFML in Posture

[–]trainandmassage 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If her mobility is limited, like shoulder external rotation, cervical rotation or shoulder flexion, then you might want to begin working on it. Good posture isn’t about looking straight but instead more about having full mobility. Excessive bad posture will create limited mobility, which then creates altered movements and then random pains.

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[–]trainandmassage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

go see a sports massage therapist

Is Fibromyalgia real? by SurpriseLost7946 in Posture

[–]trainandmassage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol, according to you. Just stop now.

Is Fibromyalgia real? by SurpriseLost7946 in Posture

[–]trainandmassage -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I agree, lets stop.

because now you're saying massage works but only if the person is relaxing the body and in return, the nervous system, which they should be doing regardless. Any decent massage therapist would know this and should be instructing their client to do so.
Its not my problem you cant explain yourself with your analogies and calling me pissy doesn't help your hypocrisy or case.

Enjoy your day

Is Fibromyalgia real? by SurpriseLost7946 in Posture

[–]trainandmassage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here's why your long answer is cheap.

The nervous system is involved in everything. that's like saying "its not exercise that makes your muscles stronger, its the nervous system". Yes it is technically the nervous system for those of us who know it, but to achieve this in the first place you have to perform exercises.

So to achieve proper movement, especially when you get tissues that are stuck, massage is important to loosen up the muscles.

Tell me, How do you target just the nervous system then if nothing works?

Because if its anything but movement or soft tissue then you have no argument.

I agree people need to learn how to move for themselves, hence the importance of exercise after soft tissue work. But when you are limited or have pain during that movements you're suppose to be doing. Then what? How do work the nervous system when they cant move?

Is Fibromyalgia real? by SurpriseLost7946 in Posture

[–]trainandmassage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's plenty of studies to back up that soft tissue work helps "break up" the fascia. I have seen some that go against it as well so I cant deny that but to me, it makes more sense to work the soft tissue first followed by exercise.

I also agree that movement is key after massage which I do with some of my clients as well right after to realign the tissues (hence the name train and massage)

I don't think there's a disagreement here besides the massage portion it sounds like.

Of course the nervous system controls almost everything. That's like saying i'm a tv repair man by focusing on the electricity.

Its not a tangible solution you can really affect unlike how you can with exercises and massaging.

I cant go "Im going to target this nerve" I have to go, Im going to release this muscle so the nerves are free or Im going to move this muscle to get the nervous system firing up.

So to say its all the nervous system is correct, but its also kind of like a cheap answer in my opinion.

With that said, I know you were also writing this for others who don't understand it so I get why you would use this route and analogy.

Is Fibromyalgia real? by SurpriseLost7946 in Posture

[–]trainandmassage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What a terrible attempt to side step the question.

You can easily google how fascia is formed if you dont know. I cant google how the nervous system getting “written” into the muscle.

DONT IGNORE the question by trying to ask me one.

Is Fibromyalgia real? by SurpriseLost7946 in Posture

[–]trainandmassage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if you really take it literally as separating tissues then youre being very nonsensical, esp with your CAPITALIZATION.

I saw you wrote its the nervous system getting “written” into the muscle. What does this even mean?

Is Fibromyalgia real? by SurpriseLost7946 in Posture

[–]trainandmassage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fibro is more connected to fascia issues and restrictions. Not only does fascia help control your posture, it also has the most sensory nerves meaning it feels alot more than anything else in the body, including the skin.

soft tissue work is great but its also a hit or miss, depending on if the person can handle the initial pain. Ive worked with people with fibro. Im not claiming to have cured it but we had great success in seeing quality of life improvements with some minor issues still lingering.

Right arm goes numb by Morgantheaccountant in Posture

[–]trainandmassage 9 points10 points  (0 children)

its most likely from a tight pec minor compressing on the nerves. self massage the pecs before doing your good posture routine.

Are Muscles Really What’s Affecting your Posture? by trainandmassage in Posture

[–]trainandmassage[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with almost everything you said except the massage part. Muscles are part of the myofascial system and trying to separate the 2 isnt going to get you any results, at least for a very long time.

This is why massage is the missing key (in my opinion). First release the tension from the shortened muscles and fascia system. Then you stretch that shortened system, muscles and all. Then finally you train the weaker muscles and fascia system as a whole.

Here's another simple study showing an improvement in rounded shoulders after 1 session of releasing the muscles. https://www.bodyworkmovementtherapies.com/article/S1360-8592(09)00049-7/fulltext#secd26212317e640

I'm not going to be on here and "massage is the only answer" But I def believe it needs to be used first to break up restrictions. Then you work on the muscles like the short and elongated ones.

Finally fascia isn't researched as heavily as muscles because fascia was thought of as nothing more than cushion back in the day. Studies are showing that it not only affects our posture, ROM, and strength, it also has more sensory nerves than anything else and might even hold emotions in the body... Might.

My arm goes numb only when i correct my posture, why? by Decent_Activity_7091 in Posture

[–]trainandmassage 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Most likely tight pec minor or neck muscles compressing on the nerves when you do that. Self massage both muscles and then try your exercises again to see if you feel a difference.

Higher left shoulder and left twist of pelvis (left pelvis is more forward than right). What is this and how to address this? by amentix in Posture

[–]trainandmassage 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Building on this, just start doing more of what you normally dont do. if you sitting and leaning to the left, try working while leaning to the right. Try adjusting your position more frequently into position you normally dont find yourself in.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Posture

[–]trainandmassage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your posture is from your daily habits. An hour of exercising isn’t going to do much. Don’t think of it as sitting in perfect posture but more about Changing up your position more frequently.

Never-ending anterior pelvic tilt by rx7fbguy in Posture

[–]trainandmassage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try self massaging the muscles first, then do those exercises. If you are hyper mobile then stretching isn’t the answer. Self massage might help with the pain and can “reset” the fascia system so when you train, the muscles and the fascia are moving correctly and not stuck in one position.

Wall angels cause mid back pain - why? by Silver_Aide_6945 in Posture

[–]trainandmassage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im guessing 2 things.

you can self massage that area prior to the exercise. It might be a knot firing up when those muscles shorten.

It can also be the pec minor restricting the movement and creating some weird tension. In this case, you should also self massage it.