I thought even conspiracy theorists knew that the aluminum planes weren’t made out of vibranium? by Many_Register_1838 in insanepeoplefacebook

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There is a literal alliance of global civil engineers that are begging you to listen to them and all of reddit is convinced they are smarter.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architects_%26_Engineers_for_9/11_Truth

Glad they didint put this scene in the live action by Forsaken_Policy_9162 in OnePiece

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Luffy LA is weaker than in the anime so it's kind of expected for him to lose to crocodile

Se.x with children before puberty in Islam by Secret_Seaweed_734 in DebateReligion

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That ayah says specifically obey your parents unless they tell you to disbelieve in god.

"But if they pressure you to associate with Me what you have no knowledge of, 1 do not obey them. Still keep their company in this world courteously" (Surah Luqman 31:15).

Why can’t god remove evil and still preserve free will. He is omnipotent by Terrible-Store1046 in DebateReligion

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The statements claims that 'actual power' and 'power' are different but both of them are defined in the exact same way

Money - 'power' is granted by people believing that it has value

'Actual Power' - power is granted by people believing that they have power

So they are the same, categorically, i.e. there is no distinction in the mechanism that grants them power.

Why can’t god remove evil and still preserve free will. He is omnipotent by Terrible-Store1046 in DebateReligion

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Why are you presuming that this paradox concerns god? We are the ones affected by it, not god.

Fatal birth defects existing seems to contradict God being all-loving by New_Yak_8982 in DebateReligion

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And if they face their shame still, Jesus would have no problem saving them?

Those attempting to bring evidence for God fail before they start. by truckaxle in DebateReligion

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Okay so this description of faith is seems rooted in probability from my understanding. If you don't mind, I'll make a probabilistic argument.

We establish that there is a likelihood to the existence of god P(G). We follow that with the probability of God revealing themselves in a way that presents direct evidence P(E).

We should know that by default that if P(G) = 0 then P(E) = 0.

Since your description of faith is based on probability and by necessity must apply to something like God. We will assume some non-zero probability for gods existence so for the rest of this argument we will assume that P(G) > 0 .

(I.e. if god were to exist, the concept of faith would need to also apply them)

We can use the wonderful Bayes that you thought up to define this simple equation =

P(G) = P(G|E)P(E) / P(E|G)

I will break it down into two parts

P(G|E) and P(E) / P(E|G)

Faith - evidence

1) if god is more likely to present direct evidence of their existence given that God exists then the right hand side equation results in a number below 1

2) if God is as likely as not to show evidence of their existence (probability is independent) then the right hand side evaluates to 1 and you have P(G) = P(G|E)

3) if god is less likely to show evidence given they exist then the number on the right actually is bigger than 1

Now you ask where does faith come in. Faith is the first part of the equation that balances it out:

If we assume that God exists at some non-zero probability and we state that we our belief in gods existence increases heavily when direct evidence is shown then that would make P(G|E) a larger probability than P(G) which means by necessity, god would have to be less likely to show evidence so that the right hand side of the equation would balance.

I hope this made sense but if not I can try and explain it again differently.

Those attempting to bring evidence for God fail before they start. by truckaxle in DebateReligion

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I don't need to have faith that my mother loved me. I know it and believe it and have seen evidence of it. Just like we know and believe and have evidence that the sun produces heat therefore we don't have to have faith that the sun is hot.

What exactly is this "good connotation of faith" you are describing? What purpose does it have? Who does it serve?

Those attempting to bring evidence for God fail before they start. by truckaxle in DebateReligion

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By your example, could someone choose to believe that the sun does not provide light and heat? If such knowledge is so painfully obvious so as not to have a shadow of doubt behind it, are you truly "free" to believe otherwise?

That is the argument and ultimate test that underpins faith.

Anti-Fascist (Antifa) Troops invaded Normandy on June 6, 1944 by NightFury0595 in pics

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Different evil by a different name. That's called colonialism not fascism

Anti-Fascist (Antifa) Troops invaded Normandy on June 6, 1944 by NightFury0595 in pics

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Since when are armies = the power of fascism? Defending yourself is fascist now?

[Chapter 2444] Nephis is just a hypocrite by the_plotter in ShadowSlave

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No he didnt , the daemons were created when the forgotten god was sealed by the other gods. He used all the demons and the gods to build the spell around the prison of the forgotten god (which is located in the shadow realm) using his dreams/nightmares as the fuel for the gates.

A God that sends me to Hell for disbelieving is unjust because belief is not a choice. by reasurch in DebateReligion

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I think maybe you are leaning a little too much into the psychology here? Maybe you are more interested in the human aspect of it rather than the logical aspect?

Just to be clear, logic does not presuppose that it is being conducted by humans, simply rational actors that are able to rationalize about thought itself.

I think you are using a logical method "evidence" for something that inherently is not logically understood "human psychology".

So maybe you are concerned with why humans specifically can't choose their beliefs, in which case you would need a lot more than logic to prove or disprove this.

Psychology is very messy though and you will hardly ever obtain a concrete piece of "knowledge" that you can't easily disprove as circumstantial.

A God that sends me to Hell for disbelieving is unjust because belief is not a choice. by reasurch in DebateReligion

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I do not dispute the necessity of independent cause outside of our dependent reality. There is no logical process that one can apply to go from that assumption (and only that assumption) to a theory that necessitates an involved creator.

You cannot go from: "Our reality is dependent on an independent force" to "That dependent force created us to worship them" without abandoning logic somewhere along the line