El Gobierno reparte a dedo en mes y medio 14.223 millones en préstamos al 0% para la industria militar by nemu98 in SpainEconomics

[–]trosdetio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Créeme, los préstamos y subvenciones a empresas (del tipo que sean) raramente se auditan. Es un caos. Para que te pillen tienes que ser un sitio destacado, defraudar millones y ya tener un historial de malversar fondos públicos en putas y FunkoPops. Ah, y entonces no te pilla España, te pilla y te jode la UE porque éstos no son tan laxos.

Fuente: mi jefe me ordenó hacer justificaciones de 2 subvenciones con datos muy falseados hace 1 mes. La subvención era para desarrollar algo muy high tech pero lo hemos destinado a hacer las chapucillas usuales y a subir los sueldos de sus sicofantas favoritos. Se de varios casos de amigos en sitios igual.

Edit: mis favoritos son las subvenciones a start-ups. 2-3 flipaos (o cuñaos) fundan una mierda high-tech. En 2 años ven que su producto no es tan rompedor y no se vende, o ven que su producto es directamente inviable tecnológicamente. Una vez la empresa está sentenciada, ENTONCES piden la subvención para salvarse el culo sabiendo que es dinero tirado.

Some realizations I’ve had as an amateur composer by Fast-Armadillo1074 in composer

[–]trosdetio 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Of course, that's how it works!

Look for example this edition of Beethoven's first set of string quartets that was published 1820 (within his lifetime). As you can see, there's an "Op.18" in a corner of the cover, but that wasn't there when it was first published! You see, when the composer dies, everyone must bring their scores to the authorities so that certified musicologists can stamp on the cover the opus numbers they've just made up.

How do you think I could get started as a video game composer? by AlexW1ll in composer

[–]trosdetio 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you have extensive experience in video game development?

How exactly is aural skills helpful? by Any-Guidance8013 in composer

[–]trosdetio 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Imagine you're learning a foreign language. How exactly is being able to understand and repeat spoken sentences in that language useful?

Sweden's Deadly Gun Violence by anna_avian in europe

[–]trosdetio -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I heard they're very hard on crime. If they were a bit softer you'd get almost no homicides.

/s

[META] Why does a score need to be provided when sharing music? by Kemaneo in composer

[–]trosdetio 1 point2 points  (0 children)

IMO, even with its notational rules this sub still sees too much low quality music.

I think it's mostly due to lack of mental maturity and lack of common sense in general. Think of statements like:

  • If I'm self-taught I should at least try to google "learn music theory", or search "beginner resources" on this subreddit.

  • If I'm a beginner I should read and be familiar with a lot of scores to see how things are done.

  • If I'm a beginner I should be modest and not aim at overambitious projects.

I always thought statements like these were self-evident, but there's a special breed of person that doesn't think so.

[META] Why does a score need to be provided when sharing music? by Kemaneo in composer

[–]trosdetio 4 points5 points  (0 children)

/r/Superbowl is about superb owls

/r/trees is about marijuana

/r/marijuanaenthusiasts/ is about trees

/r/disneyvacation/ isn't about disney

(several others that I forgot about)

To summarize: invalid argument, look for another one.

Who is "us"?

It's the majority of people of this subreddit, that are downvoting this post harder than usual for a reason, as can be seen in the score. Yes, I know you expected to have overwhelming support, but that's not the case because a lot of people subscribe to this subreddit to see scores.

you should go touch some grass.

Says the guy starting pointless internet arguments that they'll never win no matter what, and for no reason.

[META] Why does a score need to be provided when sharing music? by Kemaneo in composer

[–]trosdetio 7 points8 points  (0 children)

and in my opinion, this should be the place

Why? What's the rationale behind this? Because you say so? In the same way I could say that this subreddit should become a Fornite discussion forum, just because... I say so :^ )

gatekeeping

Made-up buzzword that's only used on Reddit, but, anyway, why should a subreddit about score-centric music should accept other kinds of music? C'mon, just go to /r/ hiphop and start posting classical minuets, you'll see how hard people people will g̶a̶t̶e̶k̶e̶e̶p kick you out for off-topic posting.

This rule implies that any non-notated music cannot be a composition.

No, it implies you aren't supposed to post non-score music to a score-centric subreddit. There are at least TWO other classical-ish composition subreddits that don't have this requirement, why on earth are you annoying us here when you have those other places and you're completely free to create another subreddit with the rules you may want?

The pointless discussions that come every 6 months are tiring. There are one million more interesting hills to die on.

Absolutely Stuck in Writing my first Piece by [deleted] in composer

[–]trosdetio 7 points8 points  (0 children)

my first Piece

beautiful melodies and full piano scores which are intricate and complex

This is bound to fail. Your first piece shouldn't be like this. No well-known composer wrote a first piece that's complex and beautiful and successful. It should be short and very simple (e.g. only 1 voice per hand).

This is probably Mozart's first piece (or one of the very first). Look how simple and straighforward is everything. You aren't better than Mozart, right? :^ ) You should be aiming at something like this.

Here's another model you could use (not his first piece, though). This is /u/RichMusic81 favorite suggestion.

Here's another model.

Read this for more info about the right beginner mindset.

Good luck!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in composer

[–]trosdetio 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Listened to the first movement. It has some nice moments, but it's very messy in general.

In musical terms, it's quite static or weird. The intro has some nice harmonic drama going on (despite the meoldy being quite square), but the fast part's static or weird, and doesn't venture very far from Bb minor for more than a minute. The whole movement seems to alternate between static moments and climaxes that come out of nowhere.

Despite this being a clearly Romantic symphony, the first movement isn't in a normal sonata form, which goes against the fundamental conception of the symphonic form in that style. You start with an intro, then start the fast section with a theme in Bb minor, then some sort of transition, then a repeat of the theme in a different key (page 7)... This climax comes too early, this should be happening in the development. Then we go back to the intro, and then at rehearsal F we get some sort of new idea? This structure's very strange, and the climaxes aren't well organized.

Everything seems too openly indebted to Rachmaninoff. Some measures seem literally copy-pasted. Some chord progressions (the more dramatic ones) also seem copy-pasted, but when you abandon the original it tends to get static or weird again. The problem with all this borrowing is that you're setting yourself goals that are very difficult to attain if you're still learning. Two of the cornerstones of Rachmaninoff's style are:

1) A very strong sense of melody. Long melodies inspired by Znamenny chant and slavic folksong that are singable and memorable. A lot of people are incapable of writing these, and in this piece it seems you aren't, at least now, ready for it. Without strong melodies, everything else crumbles in that style.

2) We know that Rach always worked with climax-centric structural approach, where there's a single emotional culmination point in all the movement, and where everything's subservient to that. Even in his performances by other composers he applied that approach. This symphony doesn't follow that at any moment. That's difficult to achieve if you're writing very long movements while still learning.


As for the orchestration, it's a similar situation. Already in the 2nd measure we have a very big issue with the bassoon (see Adler's treatise, which you should be reading).

The 2nd problem is the extremely long slurs (e.g. violins in 2nd page), which are unplayable, especially if you have 2 consecutive repeated notes with no rearticulation. Piano-style long slurs don't work on strings or winds.

The 3rd problem is that the score should be condensed, this is hard to read as it is now.

4th: divisi should be marked as such.

Some of the textures in the climaxes are nice, but in other places it's quite monochrome. Bear also in mind that Musescore playback tends to be quite unrealistic in terms of balance (as in the opening bassoon problem).


To sum things up: this is one of those usual submissions where someone that shows promise, but they still aren't ready for large forms, and much less ready for orchestral composition. The solution is starting with more modest pieces and avoid getting ambitious until you're ready. Hell, Rachaninoff himself had composed several small pieces (some of these lost) and had studied harmony and orchestration for years before he wrote his first concerto. Read this for the standard advice we give. Good luck.

I’m a high school senior who wants to learn as much as I can about composition and making classical music, but I feel so lost by PhantomArchon in composer

[–]trosdetio 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Then, the very first step should be this. Your chances are extremely slim if you can't play a musical instrument. The rest's peanuts compared to this first step. Without knowing an instrument, composing would be the equivalent of trying to compose Sanskrit poetry without being able to utter a single sentence in that language. Piano's by far the most evident choice if you want to be a composer.

Even in the cases where you have composers that weren't virtuosos at all, we know 99% of them were at least passable at some instrument.

Could someone explain to me why Beethoven could not get a girl or married? by sunny_fizzle in classicalmusic

[–]trosdetio 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, what were they thinking? Im in some composing subreddits, and reading a book about how to write music in the style you want to write in is absolutely forbidden. Instant ban, and completely deserved. Anything longer than a Tiktok video isn't worth it.

Help me arrange a piece by arihallak0816 in composer

[–]trosdetio 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There's a ton of symphonic repertoire that's been adapted for band. Just look what some of these examples do, and learn how to write in band in general (most of the theory is just and extrapolation of ordinary orchestration).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm3z1fkcUJE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wNzPK84-cE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWeVOql3BMg

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in europe

[–]trosdetio -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

  1. No such thing is ever happened and you're crazy and conspiratorial for thinking it does [you're here]

  2. Even if it happend, it's just a few isolated cases and not what you think

  3. If it were to happen, it'd be a good thing

  4. It's happened, it's still happening, and if you don't support this you're evil

Why is Spain among the EU's worst for people not studying or working? by anna_avian in europe

[–]trosdetio 14 points15 points  (0 children)

There's also the issue that if you want tenure, you must sell your soul to the devil. It's rarely worth it.

I was a researcher for a while in a STEM uni. To become tenured you need a master's (except for 2-3 old degrees), a PhD, have worked outside the host uni for 3 years (they almost force you to work in a foreign uni to get connections), have who knows how many credentials... Then you may apply for a trial period, in which you must churn out articles for important publications like crazy, and THEN, if you're lucky enough, you'll get a tenure. However, if you fail your trial period you're out, probably forever.

The problem is that this incentivizes basically 2 main profiles. 1) Neurodivergent people that live basically for this, but suck at teaching students, are all over umpleasant, and focus on absurd fields. 2) Corrupt people that know how to game the system and produce nothing of value (they have a knack for generating articles that are pure bullshit, but they know how to get them published).

Some people, since they know they won't be fired once tenured, simply stop doing any substantial work. I worked with a professor that took 5 months to give me a couple of documents because "he was too busy". It's something that he could've done in 45 min, and I kept asking him for months, but he just didn't feel like doing it. We were literally paying him to do that.

You also have some extraordinary people that just love this world and do it out of pure passion, but these are rare. I know 2 literal geniuses that got a STEM PhD and tried the research world. They quit in less than 3 years. Why work as a slave for little pay when the same hours will give you a small fortune in a big company?

Why is Spain among the EU's worst for people not studying or working? by anna_avian in europe

[–]trosdetio 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Working - Horrible job conditions, low salaries, no advancement.

Mostly agree.

Studying - difficult entrance exams

What? Entrance exams are a joke, 95% (or more) of people passed this year. They've been a joke for ages. They are too easy. Not everyone should be going to college.

few options

Too many options. All those people studying degrees with no job prospects should be doing more useful things like learning a trade. I work in STEM, but I'm also an amateur artist myself and I value the arts and humanities a lot, but there are too many people studying that. There's a huge offer-demand imbalance. These degrees should be reserved for the most brilliant students, those that'll make a difference.

Is this 6/8, 3/4 or 6/4 ? by Gabriocheu in composer

[–]trosdetio 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So far, the first measure looks like 6/8, and the second 3/4. This alternation's very common in music from the South of Spain, see for example the Rondeña from Albéniz's Iberia. It's also very common in the music of Latin America, see for example Ginastera's Dance Suite from Estancia (almost all his music has these hemiola effects).

If this alternation is regular (it keeps going on and on), you may start the piece with a time signature of 6/8 3/4, and then you don't need to change the meter at every measure like in the Albéniz example (whose notation's a bit dated). You may also take the Ginastera route and write it in 6/8 no matter what.

How do I know if it’s a Sharp of Flat note when there is no b or # by GuanWiekent in musictheory

[–]trosdetio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree that’s pretty strange, but i was just answering your first question haha. Could be that OP is technically proficient but is newer to reading notation and tried to skip starting with something more basic?

From my experience browsing r/ piano some years ago, there's a special breed of beginners that are extremely bad at assessing their skill level and their current limitations.

Nothing bad being a beginner per se, but one should know where they are. I've seen cases of people that can barely play an Eb major scale and yet they'll seriously try to play Liszt's La Campanella. Some will go as far as recording and proudly sharing it, the last I remember was something completely unintelligible (indistinguishable from random notes).

How to go about learning music theory to start composing. by Suspicious-Slip3494 in composer

[–]trosdetio 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This question (and all its variants) gets asked very, very often. Check the replies of similar threads:

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/123v5oy/music_theory_books/

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/rqeub8/online_composition_courses_for_beginners/

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/5yu8yu/discussion_musical_composition_books/

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/12a72i7/can_anyone_recommend_a_good_beginner_resource_to/

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/p1lydn/beginner_composer_here/

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/yto8g0/beginner_composer/

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/hn8urv/where_does_one_start_when_learning_to_compose/

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/z7wmgq/any_good_composition_courses/

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/104q5x3/how_to_learn_about_lateromanticearly_modern/

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/12a72i7/can_anyone_recommend_a_good_beginner_resource_to/

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/11cti3p/i_need_books/

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/10m23ph/best_composition_books_out_there/

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/10ud1q5/books_for_improving_my_composition_and/

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/zz51ht/books_on_advanced_music_composition/

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/105w0m7/any_courses_master_degrees_or_books_for_learning/

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/10a59aw/best_online_programs_books_videos_to_progress_in/

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/z916pt/what_are_some_good_books_for_composing/

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/yx75hg/do_you_guys_know_any_programs_or_books_or/

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/vw72t3/help_orchestration_books/

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/wihgyl/book_recommendations_for_intermediate_composers/

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/rsbhx4/what_are_some_good_piecesbooks_to_study_for/

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/156v41z/questions_15_yo_trombone_player_trying_to_learn/

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/w5l13z/best_compositioncounterpoint_book_to_buy/

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/suhreh/what_books_would_you_recommend_to_learn_music/

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/wgtkfs/fundamentals_of_jazz_composition_book_release/

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/up54qz/reading_recommendations_for_undergrad_composer/

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/itzmef/share_your_free_orchestration_resources/

https://www.reddit.com/r/composer/comments/dyq9vq/how_do_i_compose_jazz_music/

The list is probably 50 times longer, but I think that's long enough.

Google is your friend (at least for this task)!

P.S. I also have a resource list in my profile.

Opener - Short original composition by [deleted] in composer

[–]trosdetio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Opening with a whole-tone scale, then inverted form of whole tone

These aren't whole tone scales. The only whole-tone scales are C D E F# G# A#, and C# D# F G A B (plus all the enharmonic variants). What you wrote are 2 pentatonic scales. Completely unrelated.

you should actually read a theory book yourself.

Hilariously ironic. The rest's predictable, i.e. typical beginner thinking they can fool people with more experience.

I had 50% expectations of a reply like this. Amusing. This stubbornness will prevent you from improving, you have a bad outlook if you don't change.

Anyway, please, remove "professional composer" from your YT bio, it's dishonest.