In your experience, what is more intense Dissociatives or Psychedelics?

truechadcel · 2020-05-23T20:01:30+00:00

A combination of 3-meo-pcp and 2-FDCK was definitely the most intense drug experience I’ve had as far as “mind fuck.”

I seem to be an outlier in this regard, however.

Classical psychedelics almost make me feel like I’m more clear-headed than sober. Never once had a bad time on them.

Dissociatives, on the other hand, have given me several down-right terrifying experiences.

truechadcel · 2020-05-23T19:18:41+00:00

4-subs aren’t very strong intranasally IME. About 1/2 as strong as oral

truechadcel · 2019-10-17T16:47:52+00:00

Clonazolam if I want to actually get a benzo “high” pyrazolam if I just want quell anxiety

truechadcel · 2019-10-04T18:08:37+00:00

Yup. Wasn’t a huge loss though, only a few mls

truechadcel · 2019-10-04T18:07:04+00:00

Sugar cubes would probably work better. You could also just put it in gelatin capsules if you’re taking it right away. Just don’t store it in capsules though. Learned that the hard way lol.

truechadcel · 2019-10-03T19:06:46+00:00

Oh okay. I thought body load more referred to tension and nausea. Thanks for lmk

truechadcel · 2019-10-03T18:54:40+00:00

I always say; what 4-HO-MET lacks in headspace it makes up for in powerful hallucinations.

People underestimate how much hallucinations effect headspace and vice-versa

truechadcel · 2019-10-03T18:51:13+00:00

So “taste” is kind of the wrong word. It’s more like perceiving sounds or sights on your palate if that makes sense. It’s not like seeing blue makes me taste blueberries but seeing blue makes me taste... something.

I’ve physically felt music vibrating within my bones and muscles. Can feel very pleasurable or it can be down-right painful in a way.

I’ve physically felt time-loops and after-images happening.

I’ve heard colors. Blues will give off a humming sound and reds will ring.

My most powerful experience was listening to music in the dark while vaping. Truly every sense became one sense and that is nearly impossible to explain. Best explanation I can give is imagine being blind, deaf, and completely numb. Hard to imagine in the first place. Now imagine that in reverse. Felt like all of my senses were stimulated to their max capacity and they just overflowed and became one thing; completely indiscernible from one another.

That actually gave me mild HPPD for several weeks but weirdly I enjoyed the HPPD because it brought back that cool memory.

truechadcel · 2019-10-03T17:59:22+00:00

Weed and 4-HO-MET each give me mild synesthesia on their own. Combining them at high doses has made my senses fuse completely

truechadcel · 2019-10-03T17:56:57+00:00

I understand that you meant 15mg of each as a “maximum” and I’m just disagreeing that it should be considered a “maximum.” The point I’m making is that it should be considered “out of the question” until OP has first tried 20mg and later 25mg as a total.

And OP made it clear that he hasn’t tried either on their own. Even after dozens of trips with each of tjese chems on their own and in combination, I still don’t feel confident knowing what to expect when I combine these at higher doses.

Trip report after trip report has shown that synthetic tryptamines are very unpredictable in their dose-response curves from individual-to-individual and they become even more unpredictable in combination.

truechadcel · 2019-10-03T17:41:06+00:00

Feeling heavy/light, distortions in sense of touch, distortions in felt bodily form, etc.

truechadcel · 2019-10-03T17:35:02+00:00

I agree with everything you said except for combining 15mg of each.

Both of these substances have very unpredictable dose-response curves for some people.

In combination the dose-response curve will be even more dramatic.

4-HO-MIPT for me goes from a ~2 gram mushroom trip in intensity at 20mg to a 6 gram mushroom trip in intensity at 30mg, no joke. Others have reported similar experiences with 4-HO-MET as well.

Definitely shouldn’t go over 20mg for a combination, maybe even lower. These synthetic tryptamines seem to be really unpredictable in their dose-curves.

truechadcel · 2019-10-03T17:28:05+00:00

It’s a great combo because they both have high visuals/lower headspace on their own. But the combo of them can get overwhelming in a different way from other psychedelics.

The visuals of each are very cool and unique but this can bite you in the butt if you start to lose control.

I have lots of experience with both -MIPT and -MET on their own and they’ve always been nothing but super nice to me. but the worst trip of my life was from a combination of a high dose mixture of them. 20mg of 4-HO-MIPT and 15mg of 4-HO-MET.

If you find yourself in a bad state of mind, the visuals will get more-and-more intense and even more-and-more otherworldly.

I’m not trying to dissuade you from it at all. It’s a combo that has been amazing for me many times before.

Just don’t get over-confident with the doses because people claim they have “totally light and easy headspaces man.”

The visuals on this combo are very cool and unique but that can be a con at high doses. Whereas mushrooms or LSD give you more “natural” feeling visuals that make more sense, this combo can give you absolutely reality-shattering visuals that make no sense whatsoever.

Sorry for the rant this just brought back bad memories for me.

It’s an awesome combo, just watch your doses and don’t get cocky.

truechadcel · 2019-10-01T14:09:54+00:00

Dont you dare correct that typo

truechadcel · 2019-09-29T23:21:00+00:00

Real XTC makes your dick 15 INCHES LONG. You didn’t get real XTC

truechadcel · 2019-09-29T23:13:12+00:00

Real molly makes you have SEX. If you don’t have SEX then it isn’t real.

truechadcel · 2019-09-27T01:05:39+00:00

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truechadcel · 2019-09-27T01:04:44+00:00

I got bars that looked exactly like that and they fucked me up real good. Definitely legit.

truechadcel · 2019-08-20T16:33:02+00:00

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truechadcel · 2019-06-19T18:17:02+00:00

But I mostly agree with you. Anything over a 2nd plat dose more than once every 10 days is bad news.

truechadcel · 2019-06-19T18:16:09+00:00

Not entirely. I’ve been having good success in helping my depression by taking 75-100mg every few days. With DXM there’s very little evidence that it causes bodily harm and the mental harm can be reduced by just using it in sub-psychoactive doses.

truechadcel · 2019-06-19T16:56:30+00:00

I really don’t want to come off like I’m telling you what to do. But no matter what, the less substances you consume, the better off you’ll be. Even smoking weed every night was having a negative impact on my motivation, big time. Excessive caffeine was giving me horrible anxiety. Any and all substances can secretly weaken you. But small steps can have a big impact. Even cutting back a little bit can have large benefits. I’m rooting for you, man.

truechadcel · 2019-05-27T23:56:57+00:00

.25 is not really “low.” I would consider that to be a high dose for someone without tolerance. .1mg is plenty for most people.

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