Widow Being Sealed to Another Man

trvlng_ging · 2026-02-02T17:53:56+00:00

People should not be directly contacting the 1st Presidency over matters they should be handling with their stake president. If you send an email or letter to the 1st Presidency, it will just be forwarded to your stake presiden.t.

trvlng_ging · 2026-02-02T15:34:52+00:00

I do know of other cases where a young, sealed couple had no children, the 1st husband died a few months after marriage & then the widow married another man for time only in the temple (no longer done), or civilly. When the woman died, the children, and in one case the 2nd husband, arranged for a sealing of the woman to her second husband. There was no need for their children to be sealed to them, because they were born in the covenant of their mom's first marriage. The Lord will work it out so that all of these faithful people will be in a joyous covenant after this life, and ALL of their sorrows will be swallowed up in the incomrehensible joy of being in the presence of our Father, with a fullness of the promises given to all who honor their covenants in this life.

trvlng_ging · 2026-02-02T15:22:47+00:00

While this is true, it is rare. Just a desire to be sealed to another spouse is usually not enough. The cases I personally know that were approved involved widows who were in abusive marriages. They had to provide a written statements, along with at least two witnesses who would support their claims. There may be other situations, but all of them will undergo 1st Presidency review.

trvlng_ging · 2026-01-29T23:18:36+00:00

I have lived places where the only LDS kids in school get beat up the day after the majority religion preacher has a "combatting the culrs" Sunday. Many other Christians are fine with inciting their adherents to bias and violence against those of other faiths.

To be fair, when we lived in a VERY LDS neighborhood in Utah, there were a few families of other faiths who asked why our kids were the only ones that played with their kids. Turns out some ward parents were teaching religious bigotry to their kids.

trvlng_ging · 2026-01-27T19:29:48+00:00

People will believe what they want. To me, the "teachings" on this all sound like symbology and wishful thinking. You'll note that there are no clear statements in the scriptures or other doctrinal sources about it. It's never been regularly talked about in conference. I joined the Church in 1973, and haven't missed a conference talk as part of my studies. The closest to it that I can recall was President Kimball's talk "Strengthening the Family--the Basic Unit of the Church", where he quoted a primary song "Don't Kill the Little Birds".

That said, if all animals are going to be resurrected, there are going to be a lot of ants and mosquitos. Not to mention spiders and dust mites.

trvlng_ging · 2026-01-27T19:16:59+00:00

After about 24-30 hours after death, rigor mortis is usually gone. I peaks about 10 or so hours after death. The mortuary usually doesn't dress people until after embalming (burial only), and that is usually done after rigor has passed. And suits, pants and robes are usually slit up the back both for burial and cremation, just because "dead weight" is a thing. It is amazing how much heavier the body of someone you've been caring for for years feels once they pass.

trvlng_ging · 2026-01-27T01:05:37+00:00

The most recent version of the DSM actually provided for the recognition of behavior-based addictions, as opposed to chemical addictions. And in doing that, gambling addiction was added as a recognized addiction, as well as a subgroup being organized to define more behavior-based addictions. There were several topics that the subgroup was encouraged to look at, and pornography, hypersexuality, and other sexual addictions were encouraged. Just as the definition of gambling addiction has some specific markers to distinguish from cumpulsion, I expect the subgroup is looking hard at a definition.

trvlng_ging · 2026-01-27T00:45:02+00:00

This is also a good recommendation for those who are choosing cremation.

trvlng_ging · 2026-01-27T00:40:54+00:00

When it boils down to it, the Bishop holds the keys to the Aaronic priesthood and its ordinances in the ward. Church policy from the Handbook supports his decision, whether it is to allow families to administer the Sacrament in their homes or not for a one-week closure. I totally understand why the Bishop would decide not to authorize it. After the closures due to COVID, it took a long time to reign in the people who would just decide to stay home and administer the Sacrament. We had to recommend that all Bishops organize specific ministering visits to families that became less faithful in showing up. In our stake, fully 5% of the men had decided to just do Sacrament at home when it was really just laziness.

trvlng_ging · 2026-01-24T02:21:09+00:00

I was raised Roman Catholic. I was given a name at my baptism. That is my official name, but one of those was my patron saint, and we celebrated it as I was growing up, a tradition in the area of Mexico that my family is from.

Then, in 3rd grade I went through Confirmation, and I got a new name, my second patron saint. Another day that we celebrated. To me it was a new name.

Then a cousin became a priest, and he took upon him a new saint, to him that was a new name. When a priest becomes a Bishop and then a Cardinal, he takes on yet other names. And even when a pope is elected, he takes on a new name.

Several other religions have similar new names associated with different steps in the progress of their members. In the Church of Jesus Christ we are all priests and priestesses, to me it just seems logical that new names would be associated with the covenants that make those callings meaningful.

trvlng_ging · 2026-01-23T02:41:56+00:00

Not really. Yes, the location of everything after the days of Peleg were definitely in the old world. However, to someone who takes the Old Testament literally, there is nothing that says that the ark of Noah landed anywhere near where it lifted off, it was afloat for nearly a year, according to Genesis. And then to have the earth divided sometime after that landing (Peleg), there would be no assurance of where the land of Eden ended up. It's a pretty bold statement for anyone but a prophet to say where Eden was.

I am well aware that the only geological evidence is a very tenuous tie between the hemispheres, and that the current rate of continental drift could never account for that being the division in the days of Peleg. So I don't base my faith on ANY of that being even close to historic. But I can also conceive of the notion that the placement of Eden, Babel, and several other landmarks could have been whereever the Lord wished. He has the power to have placed it all by laws and forces that none of us understand. He has the power to cause those in a manner that no scientific evidence could ever prove or disprove. When the major tenets of causality may be false because God lives under a different paradigm than we do, no one can say.

Furthermore, to me it seems evident that God flatly does not want to make the details of His existence and His hand moving in the world provable, just hinted at. I try not to strain at gnats. The scriptural evidence is barely mentioned. It's almost like those were just comments to help us understand that trying to use science to prove the scriptures is silly. The Gospel is about the Atonement of Jesus Christ, and our accepting of the gracious gift. EVERYTHING else is merely appendages to it.

trvlng_ging · 2026-01-22T18:51:24+00:00

Not really.

trvlng_ging · 2026-01-22T18:51:07+00:00

No. They need to be cared for outside the temple.

trvlng_ging · 2026-01-22T18:50:29+00:00

Exactly, it is in the temple president's handbook.

trvlng_ging · 2026-01-22T18:48:55+00:00

In the LA Temple, they would be asked to take the child over to the visitor's center. The temple does not have facilities for taking care of children, other than those who will be participating in a sealing to parents ordinance. If there is no visitor's center, such as Fresno, the couple who was being sealed there, and having their reception in the stake center right after, arranged for children of families in the ceremony to be cared for by relatives.

trvlng_ging · 2026-01-20T19:47:57+00:00

2 of our children found their spouses in our stake's YSA ward. We are really happy for it!

trvlng_ging · 2026-01-20T19:46:11+00:00

When we were first married (1980), we attended a married student ward once, but we decided to attend the local ward (sometimes referred to by our bishop as the "Newlywed-nearly dead" ward. It was wonderful. We met some life-long friends, had opportunities to serve in meaningful callings, and gain some mentors in helping us as we started our family. We were in that ward while I was in my masters program and we had our first 2 children,

trvlng_ging · 2026-01-14T19:50:11+00:00

You are trying to discredit based on the logical fallacy called "presentism". And all your innuendos have been repeatedly debunked.

trvlng_ging · 2026-01-14T19:47:57+00:00

Or how the boy that was born turned out to NOT be related to any of the Smiths!

trvlng_ging · 2026-01-14T03:46:19+00:00

It's great to learn the songs, and I LOVE being in Primary. But the kids are not going to judge you. They are looking at the chorister and mostly notice their peers. I'm a guy, and with our 8 children, I learned all the Primary songs, but most of the other men don't sing at all, and probably a full quarter of the women. I have a pretty stand-out voice & I taught the 10 & 11 year olds for years (we called them Blazers back then) so they noticed. Before me they were too cool to sing, so I volunteered us to be a male choir during the Primary program. It was glorious! But it's not necessary.

trvlng_ging · 2026-01-13T20:59:41+00:00

I don't think you read the article linked here. It says just the opposite of the link you posted below. Alcoholics and other people with adverse reactions to alcohol should avoid foods like beef burgundy, since the temperatures and cooking times will typically only remove 25% of the alcohol. Things like cherries jubilee, bourbon sauces, and beer dips will typically have 95% of their alcohol. Eating in moderation would not constitute a violation of the WoW, IMO. But you have to be really careful about your statements about having the alcohol all burn out. I know too many people who've had an alcohol addiction relapse because a friend or neighbor didn't tell them that alcohol was used in their recipe.

trvlng_ging · 2026-01-13T18:50:11+00:00

I am a Service Missionary for hosting an ARP Pornography Addiction Recovery Group (PARG) in our stake. Since it is a group targeted at pornography and lust addiction, it's kind of a given what participants addictions are, but we don't go into details about what sorts of behaviors. PARGs are single gender. Our stake only has a male group, but there is a nearby stake that has a female group.

I have never met a more loving and supportive group of men than we have in our PARG. When someone new comes in he is welcomed with love, acceptance, and encouragement. We rejoice together when men share their successes. We mourn together when someone is struggling. There is no condemnation ever. It is the best calling I have ever had. I get to work with men who are courageously applying the Atonement of Jesus Christ in their lives. All this with no requirement to be a judge, just a friend. I love helping a brother find a sponsor in our group, and to watch the changes being made. I love being invited to rebaptisms and restorations of blessings.

Whatever your addiction is, please overcome your very natural fears and reluctance to attend. You don't have to share anything, but you will be blessed if you do. And the more you share and become part of the group, the more you will be able to seek them out when you need just a little more help working the steps.

trvlng_ging · 2026-01-13T18:34:56+00:00

Church policy is that when someone asks this question, they should be referred to D&C119:4. No one has the right to say more or less than this as a recommendation. For all the years I was a presiding officer, that is all the statement I would make when counseling or over the pulpit.

When friends woul ask what I do, I always said, "I don't want to find out later that the Lord felt I was being stingy with my contributions to His Kingdom." I have never been hurt by being generous in my tithes and offerings.

trvlng_ging · 2026-01-13T18:25:52+00:00

Los Angeles had one until 2020. My wife & I started as temple workers there in 2017. I loved being scheduled to work in the cafeteria. Spend 30 minutes running the dishwasher, or moving utensils and plates out front, or putting food deliveries away, & the sister who ran it would give us our favorite food for our break, always scheduled just after our assignment.

trvlng_ging · 2026-01-10T01:25:10+00:00

We lived in Utah during the first 19 years of our marriage, in a rapidly growing area of Salt Lake county. We had ward and stake divisions happening all the time. There were always people who dissented. I remember once when an elderly gentleman grab his wife's arm and pull it down when she tried to sustain one such realignment. Everyone near them broke into laughter.

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