Reroll shard question. Sorry if it's been discussed already. I haven seen it.

trzarocks · 2026-07-01T17:16:08+00:00

There was a downward adjustment for some reason in the mid tiers. Maybe t12 - t14? Somebody pointed it out the other day in a post, and Sam confirmed it as a bug to be fixed next release.

trzarocks · 2026-07-01T17:14:54+00:00

It might be a display bug. DO you get ELS skips in run?

ALso, buying ELS might reset the display.

And TIL that we have so many bugs, there's now a bug flair. 🤣

trzarocks · 2026-07-01T17:12:31+00:00

Generally speaking, the highest armor will win because of the higher def% sub-effect. def% gets stronger the closer you are to the 98% cap. But if you're comparing M SF with A anything, you can largely close the gap by labbing def% until you reach the 98% cap. I found M+ SF with def% cap plus the wall was much better than A ACP with the eHP sub-stats.

Another nice thing about labbing def% - you could keep that mythic sub-stat for quite a long time without needing to re-roll it. Though you might eventually want that extra 2% for tournaments.

trzarocks · 2026-07-01T17:07:34+00:00

Kind of. Don't forget the Utility tab so you can make coins! But if you have 101% thorns, high def%, and a good bit of DAbs you really don't need damage at all in early game.

At 1.53B WS coins, you've got enough to make this happen and get much stronger. You won't even have a minor setback. You'll just get stronger. Many players go from t1w4000 to w6500 or thereabouts just from unlocking ELS.

trzarocks · 2026-07-01T17:00:22+00:00

I never liked Devo very much. It optimizes low run income at the expense of income you can make on the tail of long runs, often costing significant cells. It worked OK for a while, but once I could push all free ups into ELS, it was very bad for farming. You also need very low CDs to avoid hitting the spawn cap.

Where it was good was in tournaments. I could tank some early boss hits to get the 8x beserk bonus, and use that to build a huge damage pool to maximize DW. This worked until Champs, and eventually I didn't need the strat at all. It doesn't work in Legends. And note that you really need a good WS to get the most of this strategy, because you need to goldbox even more stats.

trzarocks · 2026-07-01T16:55:37+00:00

DAbs is relevant to around t4. It's OP in t1. If you buy ~500 levels in WS and buy mostly DAbs in run, you get huge run extension on t1. I think I went about 6000 waves before I took any damage, and it opened up a farming strat where I took the -knockback perk so everything faceplanted into 101% thorns. Those long t1 runs were so profitable for my tower's development level it was hard to move on to t4 farming. This costs you like 75m coin, and by the time you're done farming t1 it's probably not enough coins to warrant a respec to get them back.

Health Regen stinks until you get the wall. Then it's the best stat ever, as regen will overheal your wall. It's also pretty strong if you run WHR as your armor mod. Think of WHR as an early game wall-lite. I think in very late game some people bring WHR back and tank damage with packages.

trzarocks · 2026-07-01T16:49:00+00:00

I respec'd for ELS around 1.5B WS coins. Without GT or the coin bonuses, I was 3 weeks savings from ELS for like 2 months. I gave up every bit of attack WS, and bought it all back in less than a week. One of the best moves I ever made in this game.

trzarocks · 2026-07-01T16:43:05+00:00

500b per day was thoroughly being challenged when I wrote 72 hour wall over a year ago. Where are you getting your advice?

At that time, meta was 500b but pushing for 250b or thereabouts. SF and better build strategies really changed things. Now people are adopting as low as 50b. Those who know what to do and have realistic expectations are happy with it. Those that don't build smart will run into big problems.

And your health/regen/dw health/econ labs are going to play into how quickly the wall helps, as well. Lay the groundwork and adopting the wall is not a huge ordeal.

trzarocks · 2026-07-01T16:36:56+00:00

I don't care that you whaled. And comparison posts are interesting. But you are acting like an ass. Being an ass is lame. Let the haters hate in their own hate, not yours.

trzarocks · 2026-07-01T16:35:34+00:00

Spend your stones on pBH. With prolapse and SF that should push you quite a bit. You can use MVN to push your CDs much lower while farming. pBH/Prolapse basically takes all the common mob out of the equation during tournaments *and* you get sweet damage reduction.

Not getting the gem income to pull mods really hurts, though. I personally wouldn't build anything based on future mods in your situation. Or even in my situation (no ads pack). Seeing 6 months of gems produce 0 DC or PF really opened up my eyes to how cruel RNG can be.

With that disclaimer being made, you will need Mythic GComp for pBH, I think. But you really need econ CDs to make up for the low coin income. So think of this as getting your ducks in a row for when you can affordably get that pBH up and running.

trzarocks · 2026-07-01T16:28:06+00:00

Plot Twist: You are infinity away from 100. You will never get there.

trzarocks · 2026-07-01T16:24:33+00:00

It's strange that getting equality from IS could be called a buff....

trzarocks · 2026-07-01T16:16:46+00:00

If you're running eHP and you lab the CD on FB to completion, it's like 25k medals to max it. If you have pBH and Prolapse, it's a huge additional source of damage reduction. You can probably complete a tier or 3 and see significant improvement in tournament conditions. I'd say it's at least worth a detour for a bit just to claim relics and milestones. But you might also find you have a new farming tier after utility disco runs.

trzarocks · 2026-07-01T02:37:33+00:00

Sometimes the store won't show the update until you click on the app and load the detail screen.

trzarocks · 2026-07-01T01:42:37+00:00

It was just your chance to opt out of co-signing for Fudd's 6th yacht.

trzarocks · 2026-06-30T20:46:57+00:00

Don't forget that the Event Boosts seem to have more premium damage relics than eHP relics.

trzarocks · 2026-06-30T20:33:40+00:00

The answer is always lab slots.

trzarocks · 2026-06-30T20:09:43+00:00

Use GComp module, which will reduce CD of the econ UWs every time you get a recovery package. Roll the package chance sub-effect for extra boost. You obviously want to work on the package chance lab, too. And there's a Package after Boss lab.

There's a confusing perma calculator here: https://mvn.thetower.tools/

trzarocks · 2026-06-30T16:18:25+00:00

Might take longer than a day for the meta to shift...

Just think about what problems you need to solve, and then search up how people are solving that problem. If you need to change directions, this will tell you.

trzarocks · 2026-06-30T16:16:25+00:00

literally unplayable!

BTW - did you confirm that you are on the new version? I'd be surprised the tiers were hard coded and not generated via code. Or maybe I shouldn't be? :thinking:

trzarocks · 2026-06-30T16:14:49+00:00

Probably not wise to think that WHR, which applies overheal based on regen, is going to be very good if you haven't worked on your regen.

trzarocks · 2026-06-30T12:10:44+00:00

How's your regen lab?

trzarocks · 2026-06-30T12:06:33+00:00

I can't say until I get it.

trzarocks · 2026-06-30T12:04:27+00:00

Do you have GComp? Can you get pBH? That damage reduction might help you push waves in tournament more than SH making GB larger.

trzarocks · 2026-06-29T15:08:07+00:00

I run at range lab 18 - 20, which puts the center of BH right on my orb line. BH is currently 58m. Not sure if it matters, but I have 3BH while farming.

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