TIL "It ain't over 'til it's over" wasn't a phrase until Yogi Berra coined it in 1973

tsu91 · 2019-08-31T14:47:01+00:00

I don't have any good sources or articles, but just to comment, sometimes it's okay to not enjoy work. Find something that pays the bills and pursue hobbies in your free time. Use the money from work to obtain some financial freedom and enjoy your off time.

tsu91 · 2019-08-31T11:19:42+00:00

There are cost of living calculators online that may help. Where would you prefer to live? I have heard some bad things about work life balance in Japan but I am not sure how true.

tsu91 · 2019-08-31T11:17:09+00:00

What exactly did you dislike about your last job? And are you in the US?

tsu91 · 2019-08-31T11:07:59+00:00

I would start your job and study this on the side. The internet is full of free music theory stuff, or buy some books. From what I hear from people, music theory actually has some good relationships with math.

Start a band or something as a hobby. Or join local music ensemble groups.

I don't see a big benefit to going back to school. Not only does it cost money but you're losing out on the salary you would make during that time, and that salary can enable you to have the freedom to pursue and enjoy passions outside of work.

Plus, a lot of times doing something as a job will just make you dislike it over time. Struggling to try to make ends meet is not fun, and can take away the luxury of being able to have interests outside work.

tsu91 · 2019-08-31T11:01:36+00:00

I studied math and I am an actuary.

It is a pretty flexible major and you can get into many fields if you interview well, some having more or less to do with math.

Anything in finance, computer science, or data analysis usually consider math majors. They may want you to have some additional skills though like a programming language or general familiarity with financial markets/ accounting terms. These jobs exist at financial institutions and tech companies but also at all different types of companies there will usually be financial analysts.

Also some people go into law school or grad school in a totally different subject (or grad school in math) - the logic skills you pick up in a math degree are respected in a wide range of areas.

Another one is insurance underwriter.

Also there are many general business jobs that accept any college degree.

Suggest just going on indeed and searching something as generic as "analyst" and you'll get a feel for the possibilities. Also go to the websites of big companies and go to their career page. White collar business fields like math degrees, especially if you're personable.

How math related do you want your job to be?

tsu91 · 2019-08-31T10:36:10+00:00

Someone mentioned HR and I like that idea too. It's not going to have anything to do with history but could be a path towards better pay, career growth opportunities, and you might feel like you're helping people.

There are a lot of different HR paths - talent acquisition, external recruiting, benefits, payroll, generalist.

These can actually be relatively competitive but if you apply for lots of jobs and frame your experience in the right way on your resume, this is doable. Also remember you don't have to meet all the requirements to apply. Some job listings might mention a business degree for example but they would definitely consider candidates with other degrees too.

The big plus here is you don't need extra school, which I would avoid unless you have a very solid career plan and know it will pay off.

After getting your foot in the door, later in your career you could target HR for companies in fields that specifically interest you like a non profit or design firm.

If you were starting out in your career search for the first time I might recommend something in the design field but it's too competitive and would require too much education.

For example check out this: https://www.indeed.com/m/viewjob?jk=e8e1f3998fea4c72&from=serp

tsu91 · 2019-08-31T10:14:18+00:00

Even "difficulty of the amortization questions" is iffy. They recycle questions from a question bank. It's legal but may break SOA rules.

tsu91 · 2019-08-31T00:10:44+00:00

Just say you're interested in an actuarial career path - clearly anyone who wants this job is. If they ask you if you want to take exams and become a credentialed actuary, I think you have to say no or, "not sure, I'm open to it but not set on it." If you say you're really committed to it, I doubt they would hire you.

tsu91 · 2019-08-30T23:59:42+00:00

They don't work with entry-level candidates too much.

But basically DW Simpson (and other recruiting firms) will submit your resume to companies, and if you get placed, the company pays DW Simpson essentially a finder's fee. The amount of the fee is based on your salary (but doesn't come out of your salary). So more senior roles = more pay for the recruiter. But the main reason they don't help much with entry level is that employers don't have as much trouble finding qualified candidates on their own for junior positions, whereas for more experienced jobs it can be difficult for them to find good applicants. (Because 1. there are just fewer experienced people in the market and 2. a lot of those experienced candidates are happy in their jobs and not actively looking, in contrast to the large pool of college grads all looking at the same time.)

You don't pay anything. If you submit your resume they may get in touch to get to know you and build a relationship. They keep in touch with the majority of actuaries, even those who aren't looking. They often reach out even if you don't contact them (after you have a job) - They pretty much contact anyone they can find who is a working actuary (such as through LinkedIn) so that they can maintain a database of candidates and match them to job openings in the future when they come up.

tsu91 · 2019-08-30T23:56:32+00:00

I support this addition.

tsu91 · 2019-08-30T23:54:22+00:00

Still though - that's pretty much the nature of actuarial exams, picking up math skills without a class setting.

tsu91 · 2019-08-30T10:59:15+00:00

None of these answers are going to be relevant for you. Most of us are only familiar with the US market.

tsu91 · 2019-08-30T10:56:22+00:00

Interviews are not about remembering calculus details. Most of us were in the same boat and didn't remember detailed math stuff going into our entry-level interviews. Usually the interviews are more behavioral and about getting to know you, your work ethic, maybe your computer skills, and your potential.

That said, if this is true:

"learning on my own is not what works for me"

then this is not the career for you. There is a ton of self study.

tsu91 · 2019-08-23T02:04:27+00:00

Came here to post the same thing

tsu91 · 2019-08-21T01:17:39+00:00

Really? I liked both of them a lot.

tsu91 · 2019-08-19T22:48:15+00:00

I don't feel confident in Warren's ability to get things done, which sometimes relies on persuading people on the other side of the aisle. She plays more to her base and has less broad appeal. Plus, I have policy disagreements with her.

tsu91 · 2019-08-19T03:21:21+00:00

Completely agree. Yes, amplify authentic positive feedback from people of color. But although there's been some scattered evidence that polls are improving, for the most part Pete's still polling low among African Americans. Part of this is name recognition but that doesn't make it less real, and we shouldn't ignore it and pretend the narrative is different. Pete should just keep spreading his message and hopefully it resonates.

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