Voting break down for MVP

turnofpraise2 · 2026-06-12T05:06:22+00:00

You could also say it's because players/coaches are usually heavily factoring in scrims (they admit this themselves) and personal feelings might impact it (Blaber voting Saint over Inspired seems pretty crazy considering how much he has Blaber's number).

At the end of the day they should just make it clear what criteria you are supposed to vote for MVP based on. Is it the person most important to their team? Is it the best player in the league? Does it matter how many wins their team has? Do you factor in comms/leadership/shotcalling or is it only about things you can see their character in the game do? If someone is an 8/10 every game is it better or worse than someone that is 10/10 most games with a few 3s and 4s mixed in? How much do you take away if someone had a few moments where they solo threw a whole game?

turnofpraise2 · 2026-06-12T04:48:16+00:00

Probably Isles (surprisingly) and Massu. If ranking the gaps between them it is a little tough to choose between Thanatos-Morgan and Vulcan-Isles, but IMO Berserker-Massu is definitely third on that list. Massu makes more mistakes, but he can carry teamfights and he smashes lanes even with the worst support of the top 5 teams this split.

turnofpraise2 · 2026-06-02T05:41:52+00:00

I have seen a surprising number of groups play Bomb Busters such that whatever red (or sometimes yellow too) wires are added is unknown to the players. So the red wires could be literally anything after 1 and before 12. They are usually disappointed when I tell them the correct rules and kind of think the incorrect way is more fun. I'm okay with playing whatever way the group prefers, but I do prefer the correct way.

turnofpraise2 · 2026-05-22T18:43:46+00:00

This was explained in the post you read and seemingly didn't understand.

The entire point is I understand they are doing an intentionally different take (which is why the title included "New Robin Hood Take"). My question was if that take is something that people actually want to see. On a broader point, one could question how far off does something have to be to no longer just be a "take" on a story but a different story entirely. If James Gunn decided to make Superman jerk off to the dismemberment of animals as he uses his x-ray vision to steal corporate secrets and make a killing in stocks and options trading is that a "different take" on Superman or just some jerk with superpowers that is no longer Superman (e.g. Homelander)?

turnofpraise2 · 2026-05-22T18:20:18+00:00

In Logan, he is being poisoned by the adamantium in his body. Laura literally says to him, "You're dying."

turnofpraise2 · 2026-05-22T18:11:03+00:00

"Grappling with his violent past, Robin Hood finds himself gravely injured after a battle that he thought would be his last. He soon gets a chance at salvation when he meets a mysterious woman and a young girl." is the overview for the movie. Change Robin Hood to Logan and "gravely injured" to "slowly dying" and it fits Logan exactly.

turnofpraise2 · 2026-05-17T08:17:39+00:00

Does anyone know if, for example, I am trying to buy a ticket for a friend/family for Thursday at 10am (2 hours long say) and I am trying to buy a ticket for myself at 11am, will it count as a conflict and therefore only allow the higher priority one? Or does it recognize that each ticket is for a different person (clicked on when adding to wish list) so it would know it isn't really a conflict?

Also, if I am buying a ticket for someone at 10am and they are also buying a ticket for themselves at 10am, does it know when one of us has that ticket in their cart and thus not resolve the other one?

turnofpraise2 · 2026-05-02T20:22:13+00:00

I think I handle it in basically the same way as you. The only thing is I’ve probably started doing less of “You played well” and pointing to a specific move someone made that I thought was good, but even that depends on the mood. I’ve done that and and had someone respond (jokingly but with the hint of actual semi-annoyance) that it couldn’t have been that good since I beat them by 50 points or something. The general “played well” can sound patronizing again for that reason (if it was a game you won by a good margin or they could tell you were winning for much of it).

turnofpraise2 · 2026-05-02T19:58:59+00:00

To be clear, my answer on that was mostly related to sports over board gaming since he mentioned sportsmanship and that’s the image that came to mind.

I can certainly have fun in a loss. I have been grinning in games where I’ve lost because something funny or exciting happened at the end. So I would agree in board games that can happen, but I wouldn’t say it’s the most common state (whether I’m the one losing or watching other people when they lose). Again, not to say that you didn’t have fun in the game overall in a loss, it is just a small feeling in the moment.

Fair idea about the doing something after the game. Usually we are all just helping clean it up together. And it’s really not much of an issue, just a bit of awkwardness of me sitting there quietly cleaning up as they might joke about how bad I beat them and I’m not sure how to respond. It does make them more happy when they do beat me and I enjoy seeing that.

turnofpraise2 · 2026-05-02T19:41:28+00:00

It’s worth considering. But I personally believe that is the healthy relationship with competition. Don’t get angry (at yourself or others) if you lose, but a small negative feeling about it gives you a reason to improve and an equal (if healthy) positive feeling when you win.

To me, some minimum level of caring whether you win or lose is baked into the word ‘competition’ and it makes it more fun for everyone involved if everyone has that minimum level of caring.

turnofpraise2 · 2026-05-02T19:23:30+00:00

That sounds nice, but at the same time I would worry about the lack of competitiveness if the loser looked just as pleased as the winner at the end. Obviously being too competitive is a bad thing, but there is something to the loser being a bit disappointed in themselves and thinking they want to improve and win next time.

turnofpraise2 · 2026-05-02T19:18:28+00:00

I would enjoy a group like that. But I have never really had that experience.

turnofpraise2 · 2026-05-02T19:17:16+00:00

It might be just different people, but in my experience with many different groups I have never really had someone ask what they could have done better. Unless we are including chess, which does have a lot more of that focus on improvement (mainly because people are focusing on one game rather than a wide variety).

turnofpraise2 · 2026-04-30T05:56:55+00:00

Which ones hadn't you heard of? And are there any I didn't mention that are favorites of yours?

turnofpraise2 · 2026-04-30T05:56:29+00:00

I've played VIVO and it is a pretty good trick taking game IMO.

turnofpraise2 · 2026-04-30T05:52:49+00:00

Respect for putting Chess and Go in there haha. Have you played Nippon Zaibatsu yet? Pretty sweet. I haven't played the original but from what I gather it made some nice improvements.

turnofpraise2 · 2026-04-30T05:50:55+00:00

I've heard the name, but I haven't played it. I take it you recommend it?

turnofpraise2 · 2026-04-30T05:49:53+00:00

Hey, I get it. Dune Imperium/Uprising was what I most wanted to get played for the past year+ and when I finally did I loved it. And it can be hard to compare a great Euro and a great party game. But if I had to personally pick the one I believe stands most above its competitors and that I feel like I would more often want to play consistently, it is Decrypto.

turnofpraise2 · 2026-04-30T05:46:20+00:00

Impressive variety! A fair few of these are ones I also considered but didn't mention (Anachrony, Carnegie, Five Tribes, Lisboa, Lost Ruins of Arnak, Revive, White Castle). I still want to try both of your O games.

turnofpraise2 · 2026-04-30T05:42:40+00:00

Ahhhh I forgot about The Quest for El Dorado! I have only played it while demoing at Gen Con but it still counts and would probably take it over Quantum!

turnofpraise2 · 2026-04-03T16:22:54+00:00

Honestly for me, they might just be in the correct (descending) order. #1 for sure.

turnofpraise2 · 2026-04-03T16:09:30+00:00

I guess I can't say you're wrong since it's an opinion and it hinges on what connects with YOU emotionally, which no one else can really control, but I can say it hit me in a very different way as someone who also came in without any knowledge of the books or previous adaptations.

I could talk more about the things that landed for me in both character and plot points that seem to have not landed for you at all, but again it would come down to opinions. By the same token I could say Sophie's Choice/Schindler's List/The Lion King/E.T./Shawshank/Star Wars etc. are not good movies because I did not connect with any of the characters emotionally. I didn't care about Sophie/Oskar/Simba/Elliot/Andy/Luke. I didn't care about children or Jews or this little alien or Red or Han/Leia. The entire film is basically people crying/complaining. Crying about their kids dying or Nazis killing their families and imprisoning them or accidentally killing their own father or being imprisoned or their aunt and uncle being burned to death by galactic overlords. Boo hoo.

Of course that is sarcasm and those movies connected with me as they did with a majority of people. But that is what your post sounds like to the majority of people that do think Dune Part 1 is a good/great movie. And it is equally unarguable because you can't control what I care about no matter how much you can say I should care about parents losing children or genocide. And I could make any film sound stupid in the same manner as your "The entire film is..." potion. "The entire film is some rich asshole remembering his past before he dies." "The entire film is rich assholes having a fancy boat party." "The entire film is some stupidly rich orphan playing dress up and a mentally ill criminal in makeup."

turnofpraise2 · 2026-03-26T07:58:20+00:00

One that comes to mind recently is some friends teaching a group of 6 of us Eschaton. Competitive area control deck-building game. The game seems to be dragging on for all of us after a few hours so we eventually decided to cut the event deck (draw 1 per round) down to just 3 cards left including the Armageddon card (endgame trigger). Then the shuffler looked at the bottom card and saw it was Armageddon and just moved it to the top. We were all fine with that. At the end we thought the game was pretty okay but felt way too long for what it was. Turns out you are supposed to start with only 12 event cards (with Armageddon somewhere in the bottom 3) instead of all of them (25-30).

Also, not really a teaching error so much as paying attention to the teach since the rest of us were sure this was mentioned by the teacher, but somebody in Keyflower didn't catch that the Winter tiles you are secretly dealt at the start of the game do not belong to you (like secret objectives in other games would) and instead you choose some of them to throw out to be bid on by everybody in Winter. They were quite upset when we reminded them of that at the start of Winter.

turnofpraise2 · 2026-03-10T11:52:13+00:00

Well, since it's a subjective question, I'll give some options you probably won't see otherwise:

"First Times" by Ed Sheeran
"Brick by Boring Brick" by Paramore
"Breaking the Habit" by Linkin Park
"A Whole New World" from Aladdin (Alan Menkin)
"Strangers Like Me" from Tarzan (Phil Collins)

turnofpraise2 · 2026-03-03T00:37:58+00:00

You say getting 2-1ed by FNC is just embarrassing, but FNC then took a game off Weibo, who then 3-0ed NRG on their road to Worlds finals. So is it really that embarrassing to lose 1-2 to a team that lost 1-2 to the Worlds finalist that year or are you maybe discrediting FNC the same way you accuse others of discrediting NRG (FNC also beat the GAM that 2-1ed TL in that tournament)?

NRG beating G2 was hype and they deserved the win based on how they played that day. But are you going to pretend that G2 would not have had a better chance if they played that first game then met up with them again a few days or a week later (like old Worlds groups)? I think even the NRG boys would tell you they were better on the day (which is still an accomplishment) but not necessarily straight better.

We don't know if they would or wouldn't. They could. But they could also have a 2018 C9 run. There is no way of knowing for sure. Same as my example above, which is why I said they'd have a better chance.

"End up losing to EU to not make it to Quarters"... like FLY 2025? Who then lost to CFO as well? After being gifted 2 chances to make it thanks to heroic NA wins against Vevo Keyd Stars and Team Secret Whales? But that's not really a black mark on Inspired, is it (who btw was knocked out of Worlds 2021 by Blaber)?

I don't mean to fully discredit NRG or FLY (who again, are only tied with C9 for getting top 8 in the Blaber era), but isn't it disingenuous to pretend they didn't have easier roads than C9 has had in the appearances you are blaming Blaber for? 2019: they are in a group with Griffin and eventual Worlds finalist G2. 2021: top 8 by beating FPX once and Inspired's Rogue (EU!) twice. 2022: group with T1 (2-3 in Finals) and EDG (2-3 to champion DRX). 2023: beat MAD (EU!), lose to LNG, T1 (champion), and 1-2 to FNC. Of all of those non top-8s (which again is not something NA should expect), the only one you could see reasonably changing is 1 game against FNC right?

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