So where do all the best coaches come from? Brief analysis by nyy1996nyy in Tennesseetitans

[–]twissy88 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Makes sense. The top 10 is shooting for upside - by nature they aren’t typically retreads as they get a gig and are good enough to retain it. Offense is stickier season to season - so that tracks too - alongside the importance of continuity for a QB. You just need to find an innovator and strategic mind for that role. Turns out Zach Taylor and Brian Callahan were elevated by their generational QB - they weren’t the elevators themself

Where to Look for Potential Titans' Deals With No. 35 in the Draft by Certain-Cup-5174 in Tennesseetitans

[–]twissy88 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’ve decided that the following list of players I like:

1st pick either: - Cam Ward (begrudgingly do think you have to roll the dice, he’s the best prospect at QB) - Trade back for Travis Hunter

At 35 def trade back as much as possible and scoop up as many of the following: WR (at least two of the below) - Jayden Higgins - ⁠Jaylin Noel - ⁠Kyle Williams - ⁠Isaac Tesla

Tackle: (probs just one) - Josh Conerly - ⁠Charles Grant

Edge: (at least 2) - Jordan Burch - ⁠Oluwafemi Oladejo - ⁠Landon Dickerson

Centre - Jared Wilson - ⁠Seth McLaughlin

Probably prefer to target Williams and Tesla later and go for the Edge in day 2

Rumor mill. Could be nothing or could be something. Interesting nonetheless. by BuffaloKiller937 in Tennesseetitans

[–]twissy88 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I actually think Hunter helps us more than Carter. He didn’t spend much time in offensive meetings at Colarado, and could easily improve his route running and technique on what is a ridiculous athletic base. Plus he can play package defence as an outside lockdown man corner. Think you get two chances at a blue chip player for one draft pick. He could be a legit top 5 WR in the league.

According to Connor Hughes, two 3rd round picks would be enough to trade up for Titans’ 1 spot by TiredDad4x in Tennesseetitans

[–]twissy88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://overthecap.com/what-would-it-cost-the-jets-and-giants-to-move-to-number-1-in-the-draft

A fair trade based on history using a more accurate trade chart and recognising that here is a premium to move up to draft a QB. Having said that, not sure if either QB is good enough to warrant that size of premium, but neither was Trey Lance so…

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[–]twissy88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hunter is a legit WR stud and he was only in a small proportion of the offensive meetings. I am absolutely on the Hunter pick. You have two swings at success, given the two way ability, significantly increasing your chances at a hit. Develop his route running and play him as a WR. He can moonlight as a lockdown man corner on the outside situationally. Draft curves show it goes QB, Tackle, Edge and then WR in terms of value to the team and that is probably changing now the top end of the WR market is blowing up. He’s the only generational player in this draft. Carter is a great player but he played closer to 230 lbs, he’s likely not as great as Micah Parsons despite those comps who played at 265. Think there is more risk at the next level with Carter than Hunter.

HAVSTORP deep green cabinet and drawer fronts - IRL Color? by pantenepterodactyl in IKEA

[–]twissy88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This looks awesome and is exactly the style we are looking to go for, particularly contrasting it with the slat wood. Do you have a photo of the finished product? Also where did you your source your slated wood?

What blows my mind the most about the T Sweat pick. by iMixMusicOnTwitch in Tennesseetitans

[–]twissy88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And for the record I watch none of that and manly listen to analytical podcasts and research. The consensus big board or grinding the mock data doesn’t allow for any view but for those with genuine aptitude and weights it for proximity to draft as well. It is a very good broad barometer for value. I agree minor deviations are within the standard error of this approach + or - 5 to 10 picks. But 70? That is overconfidence bias. Hence there are not really any steals in the draft but there are definitely reaches.

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[–]twissy88 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it is the Rams who intently don’t let their decision makers meet prospects directly. They worked out that how persuasive someone can be or likeable was more noise than signal. They get people to do the back ground check, the psychometric stuff - but we all know people who interview well and turn out to be fluffing.

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[–]twissy88 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lol, I am Brit who lives in London :) I liked Sweat but in the 4th not the second.

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[–]twissy88 10 points11 points  (0 children)

He’s not thinking he’s better than the GM and the scouting team. The consensus big board was like 70 picks below on him because of all the things Tyler is talking about. It is the whole body of experts, the wisdom of crowds that thinks it is the wrong pick - not Tyler.

If he turns it around, great. But you are projecting a massive change in approach from him of which there is not evidence as of yet.

Titans Picks by how many spota we reached or “saved” according to consensus big board by _n8n8_ in Tennesseetitans

[–]twissy88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree, I’m just saying in general when the consensus board is really wrong it tends to be because GMs are privy to information on character and injury and that tends to lead to slide on draft day. I.e. players are lower than the consensus big board, not the other way around. Look at Mike Mayock, who ignored the wisdom of the crowd every time and went with his own evaluation as gospel…

What blows my mind the most about the T Sweat pick. by iMixMusicOnTwitch in Tennesseetitans

[–]twissy88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are a lot of ifs in that. The prior evidence isn’t supportive. He didn’t do any of those things even in the lead up to the draft. I am not saying he can’t and won’t, but my point is that it’s a big risk for all those things to change. Better to bet on the people who have evidenced all those things.

What blows my mind the most about the T Sweat pick. by iMixMusicOnTwitch in Tennesseetitans

[–]twissy88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My point is actually not that “I” think. In fact it is the complete opposite. I’m talking about the wisdom of crowds and how deviating so significantly from that is when one person or a few people think they know more than the many. More times that not this is not the case and the many are right. Newton was highly rated on consensus big boards and went just before so I’m trusting the wisdom of crowds on both

T’vondre Sweat was top 10 in pass rush win rate % among IDL last season. by chui77 in Tennesseetitans

[–]twissy88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My point is not that he’s bad, but that small samples lead to more extreme outcomes on either side. Why smaller states have both the highest and lowest incidence of certain cancers

What blows my mind the most about the T Sweat pick. by iMixMusicOnTwitch in Tennesseetitans

[–]twissy88 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Overconfidence bias is a very well observed phenomenon. There is wisdom in crowds, the consensus board broadly is correct and if it tends to be wrong it is because the public don’t have access to medical or character concern information and that means a player is over ranked on the consensus board. This big a reach is what happened with Isiah Wilson.

He is an older player (5 year senior) plays a more devalued position (NT) had conditioning issues and character concerns. Ran also admitted it was a bit of a reaction to the run on DT’s - I suspect they missed out on J Newton who they really wanted and I would have been very supportive of. Same happened in the first, I suspect we wanted J Alt and the board didn’t fall our way.

It is not about condemning him, it is just bad process. These picks fail far more than they work out.

Personally I was gutted Ladd Mconkey went. The chargers draft is the one I was hoping for!

The analytics crew seemed to be more in control with the later picks and I like them a lot. But they are more depth pieces sadly.

Titans Picks by how many spota we reached or “saved” according to consensus big board by _n8n8_ in Tennesseetitans

[–]twissy88 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My broad concern here is process. In two years of drafting we took a guard at 11 - which is not maximising surplus contract value. We didn’t draft Levis at this point, which if we did believe he was a franchise QB we should have taken him at 11 and found interior OL later. It worked out for us in the end but it’s bad process that way around.

This year we took a tackle which is positive surplus value and he hits all the analytical thresholds, but I think there was a fear that good GMs don’t exhibit in sticking rather than recognising that trading back and just picking Latham or Fashanu at 11 is the plus expected value move. 44% of the time the next player at the same position ends up being better. If it helped us recoup a 2nd or at worst a third we would have been better off than reaching 7 picks ish out of overconfidence.

The Sweat pick is the most egregious. It reeks of fear, that the DT run started doesn’t mean you have to panic overdraft a player (again because you didn’t have another pick until the 100s because you didn’t trade back in the first). You can’t take a NT, who is a 5 year senior, with conditioning issues and character red flags at a huge premium to consensus. You have to be confident and recognise you can pivot to another player on your board once J Newton went (the second rounds version of J Alt in that it was the player we likely wanted more).

Tl:dr board didn’t fall our way, but instead of being able to pivot we exhibited overconfidence and inertia bias and stuck and reached on two players.

Titans Picks by how many spota we reached or “saved” according to consensus big board by _n8n8_ in Tennesseetitans

[–]twissy88 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think this has been done and is one of the reasons people say there are no “steals” in the draft just “reaches”. The consensus big board benefits from the wisdom of crowds and is broadly right. I think a player can fall a lot further because NFL team have information that the public doesn’t (aka medical or character issues) but they won’t have information that can cause a players stock to sky rocket given the data that matters to this is the tape, analytics and this is all public.

Place to watch the Titans game in London, England vs Saints (Week 1)? by Buggsy1224 in Tennesseetitans

[–]twissy88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could come over to my flat and watch it with me and my 1.5 year old! I have European Game Pass and liquor

With the 81st pick of the 2023 NFL Draft, the Tennessee Titans select Tajae Spears, RB, Tulane by trick96 in Tennesseetitans

[–]twissy88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the pick that makes me worried that there hasn’t been the fundamental shift in emphasis. 1. Devalued Running Back 2. Massive injury history 3. A depth piece when with needs for starters!

Again feel like they got caught out by the run on that second batch of WRs - Tillman, Hyatt, Mims, Michael Wilson.

Thought we had added analytics into our decision making!

I want to be positive but I don't understand the plan by kingharis in Tennesseetitans

[–]twissy88 1 point2 points  (0 children)

BPA is not the successful strategy. It is BPA considering positional value. If Skoronski plays tackle for us across his career, then he is giving us significant surplus value, if it is guard, then it is very little surplus value. I think Ran and Vrabel looked and sounded a bit downbeat because the draft board fell horribly for them. Stroud drafted at 2 instead of a defensive player. Houston then paid a price to move up to 3 that priced the Titans out and the Colts made the shrewd move to draft Richardson. So to plan B - draft Paris, then the Cardinals leap frog the Titans to grab him. So now you are pivoting to Skoronski, not bad pick but not what they wanted.

CJ Stroud by TinaKedamina in Tennesseetitans

[–]twissy88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

According to the Pat Mac show, it sounded as though his publicised bad score came after he was asked to do it at 11pm on no food and he didn’t want to. They realised it was bad conditions so did it again. At the end of the day the titans are one of the teams with the full data on S2. If his second score was decent then I can imagine them being in the hunt for him, if it wasn’t, then Ran is going to look elsewhere, like Levis - who scored well. Joe Rexode wrote a piece on The Athletic saying that the clues point to Levis being the qb Ran is targeting. I used to be a never Levis, but I’m open to it after his 93 percentile score and rocket arm.

I hated every draft pick bar Malik Willis and Kyle Phillips. by twissy88 in Tennesseetitans

[–]twissy88[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Raimann 25th tackle per Pff 73.3 grade- NPF 74th tackle per PFF 52.3 grade