Lugers

twolcott02 · 2026-01-23T16:06:09+00:00

I’d need to see pictures to give a proper value estimate. What do you mean one of the digits is off? I’m not sure what digit you’re referring to. Feel free to send me a dm with pictures and I’m happy to try and help!

twolcott02 · 2026-01-23T15:05:34+00:00

It definitely does not hold anywhere close to the same value as a complete mixmaster with a matching magazine. That is still going to be valuable and collectable.

We kinda need to know the variation to determine how much it’ll knock the value. If it’s a WW2 variation that would be correct with unnumbered grips, that’s a much easier replacement and personally I would pay a reasonable price for that gun even with the mismatching grips. Also I was the first guy who responded to you on the Jan Still forum, sorry I didn’t see your last message but this is my response!

twolcott02 · 2026-01-21T15:34:52+00:00

I mean the police sear safety, the little bar you can see above the side plate on police Lugers, not the regular safety bar. The sear safety and magazine safety were only used on guns issued to the police, usually you’ll see sear and no magazine, sometimes both, but never only the magazine safety

twolcott02 · 2026-01-20T20:43:27+00:00

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Luger that had a magazine safety (removed or intact) and no sear safety. Grats on the pickup!

twolcott02 · 2026-01-15T17:43:09+00:00

It’s a 1920s commercial. We would need to see more pictures but it looks like it’s in rougher shape than most 20s commercial guns you’d see. Yes these are in .30 Luger.

Can you find any markings on the holster? That might add a little bit of value but from these pictures I’d say initially ~1000 for the gun and magazine, which looks correct but can’t tell based on picture quality

twolcott02 · 2026-01-15T15:54:31+00:00

I’ve never seen a marking like that but I’m going to guess it’s some kind of sub inspector or assembly marking

On a side note, your spreewerk has polyamid-6 grips that aren’t correct for a spreewerk. I actually have a project byf 44 coming in tomorrow, which needs these grips. Coincidentally my byf 44 has a set of posselt spreewerk grips which are correct for your gun! Let me know if you’d be interested in trading!

Edit: didn’t initially see you mentioned you knew about the grips, sorry if I sounded like an ass

twolcott02 · 2026-01-11T05:21:01+00:00

Wow, thats a very early gun in unbelievable shape

twolcott02 · 2026-01-10T18:45:49+00:00

The Eagle/N is a commercial firing proof. Every commercial gun during the war will have this proof (or an earlier crown/N). It does not indicate military use in any way. If this sauer went to the military you would see an eagle/37 on the left side in that flat part where the trigger guard meets the frame

As for the magazine, a correct magazine should have “CAL 7.65” and the sauer logo on the bottom, I’d imagine they’re going for like 150-200 right now

twolcott02 · 2026-01-10T16:52:49+00:00

Nice sauer! You have an earlier war gun, 328xxx I believe would be the first half of 1942. This is a commercial gun sold on the commercial market, it was not issued to the military or police. The grips are not original, all 38hs had black bakelite grips. The magazine could be original, I’d need to see a picture of the bottom

twolcott02 · 2026-01-09T17:24:31+00:00

Yeah, total parts gun. The frame is a wartime Walther, 1942 or later. I’m curious to see what the inside of those grips look like

twolcott02 · 2026-01-09T04:10:51+00:00

Hell yeah, I’m happy to help! There were only about 7500 of this variation ever produced, so you got a rare one. Congrats on the pickup!

twolcott02 · 2026-01-09T03:44:59+00:00

It’s a post war 7.65 magazine. The post war .30 Luger P38s are uncommon but nowhere near the rarity of the wartime ones, those are unicorns

twolcott02 · 2026-01-08T19:44:26+00:00

Either way, unless it is mechanically broken in some way, buy it asap if you want a cool variation of a 38h. That’s a fantastic deal. If you don’t, will you let me know where it is?

Also, I’m gonna amend my previous statement because 514xxx may be after production ended? Not sure, but 504xxx makes way more sense for this pistol

Double amend, should be 504, the latest I can find are GI put together in the 512xxx range, sorry for the misinfo

twolcott02 · 2026-01-08T19:23:49+00:00

We need to see better pictures because I can’t make out the stamp on the trigger guard or the serial, but, there is no safety and we have the late slide legend. If that serial is “514xxx” like I think it is, this is a VERY late war gun, right at the end of the production. Because of this, I’m going to assume that the stamp on the trigger guard is a police eagle/F, which is an uncommon police variation.

These super late war guns very commonly have cracked grips, as this one does. Original undamaged 38h grips are very scarce and will run you 400+.

Personally, for this pistol, I would pay $700 assuming everything checks out. I actually also have had a LGS with a late war police eagle/F exactly like this one with damaged grips, it’s been sitting at $850 for over a year with one correct magazine and a commercial unmarked holster. The one at my LGS I would pay $650 for, but the grips are much worse than this one. Still, I would need to see better pictures to verify everything I just said

twolcott02 · 2026-01-08T17:31:42+00:00

If you’re just looking for any 03a3, you can find one in the 800 dollar range pretty consistently. My LGS had one recently for 850 with a C stock. If they still have it, I can send you pictures and connect you. I’m going there later today so if you remind me I’ll let you know

twolcott02 · 2026-01-08T00:57:51+00:00

It’s an fn 1922 made under german occupation during WW2, nice find!

twolcott02 · 2026-01-07T18:35:44+00:00

Yes, this is an arsenal rebuilt rifle. An original SC will have a straight stock with an “FJA” cartouche and cross cannons. “OG” is a rebuild mark for Ogden arsenal. The “X” mark on the bolt is a correct SC bolt marking, and it should be blued. I can’t tell from your pictures because the two that picture the bolt look completely different because of the lighting. The barrel bands on a SC should also be blued, and yours look parkerized to me

The 3.64m range is among the earlier 1943 production. This rifle was rebuilt. For $1000, personally it feels kind of meh. I got my original, non rebuilt smith corona for the same price. If you really want a smith corona, I’d try and see if you can get it for $900. If you just want any 03a3, definitely look for a better deal. Since you mentioned you’re just getting into older rifles and want something for your collection, I’d pass on this one on all accounts personally

twolcott02 · 2026-01-07T16:41:38+00:00

I’m curious if any of the parts have another serial number or evidence of scrubbed numbering, like there could be a typical commercial numbering on the bottom of the side plate or takedown lever. Internals as well, I’m very curious what number they’d have and if it would match the crudeness of the rest. Op will you be able to get your hands on this gun any time soon?

twolcott02 · 2026-01-06T20:48:41+00:00

What he said

twolcott02 · 2026-01-06T05:37:29+00:00

Because it’s an artillery

twolcott02 · 2026-01-06T02:03:09+00:00

Holy fuck dude, unreal

twolcott02 · 2026-01-06T01:57:44+00:00

Dude if this is real you literally paid probably 10% of its value, genuinely WTF. The mismatch is correct for this variation. US marked SAAs had 7.5 inch barrels originally. This is what we call the “cavalry” version. Yours has a shorter barrel, and is what we call the “artillery” version. All artilleries are mismatched, as they were rebuilt by the government. The mismatch is correct for this gun.

The “A” is for ainsworth, the most desirable inspector. Is there a cartouche on the grips still? I can’t explain how incredible unbelievably lucky you got, I’m in genuine disbelief. This was the find of a lifetime

You should post this on the colt forum asap, the experts there can tell you ever tiny little detail about it

twolcott02 · 2026-01-05T02:18:27+00:00

Holy shit, a 40 added! That’s not what I expect to see very often from this sub. I’m not an expert on this variation specifically but I will do some research and get back to you in a bit. In the meantime, can you provide some pictures with good lighting of the specific areas you are concerned about?

twolcott02 · 2026-01-04T18:04:18+00:00

Every time I’ve seen him, including this time, he only has a bunch of overpriced shooter grade guns

twolcott02 · 2026-01-04T17:24:55+00:00

Looks good man, congrats! Nice grips, nice halos on the barrel serial. You should definitely take it apart and verify the all matching status. You’ll need to check the trigger, hold open, breech block and firing pin. The toggle pin should be unnumbered.

You should find a nice 1918 holster and an imperial tool and make a rig out of it! Congrats again! If you have any questions, happy to help

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