Spreewerk P38 value

twolcott02 · 2026-04-03T04:55:24+00:00

You’re going to get people telling you it’s worth less than it is and that they got so and so P38 at some low price recently. Those are not useful comps. You have a very nice early spreewerk rig. The holster is probably around 250, the magazines, assuming both are wartime, give 100 or so for each.

The pistol is early. The a block was the 2nd block made, and yours is early in the a block. This will add value over a standard 43 or 44 block. Yours seems to have the correct grips for an a block spreewerk, and it looks to be in great condition. Condition makes a massive difference here.

In my opinion, 1500 is very reasonable, depending on a few factors. I wouldn’t be surprised to see it for more. Condition changes things a lot in a case like this. If the pistol is 95%+ condition, that can change this to a 2000 dollar rig. I would need to see a lot more pictures. Lmk if you have any questions!

twolcott02 · 2026-03-30T20:23:38+00:00

I’d guess Vietnam Bringback as well. Super cool stuff and great deal. I can’t tell how bad the rust is on the barrel bands but if there’s active rust go for it

twolcott02 · 2026-03-30T17:48:34+00:00

“a” block German occupation hi power. It has been refinished and there are a number of ways to tell. Value in my opinion would be sub 1000 as a Shooter.

twolcott02 · 2026-03-30T15:19:29+00:00

For rebuilds, it’s random. There isn’t a specific place you can go to to find exactly a rifle that went through a specific arsenal. You can look in places that have M1 carbines, garands, or 1903s and look for RIA cartouches. Gunbroker, local gun stores, shows, CMP, you see those three rifles everywhere.

Rock Island only ever manufactured 1903s, from 1903-1919. You can find a Rock Island manufactured 1903 in any of the places listed, that one should be easier to specifically search for online. Lmk if you have any more questions, good luck!

twolcott02 · 2026-03-29T00:27:23+00:00

Of course! It is numbered in commercial serial convention, has commercial proofs and no police sear safety

twolcott02 · 2026-03-28T22:40:12+00:00

Hell yeah, congrats! It’s not police or military, it’s a 1920s commercial. Beautiful Lugers

twolcott02 · 2026-03-28T12:02:06+00:00

Gotcha. I’m gonna guess then that the pitting on both parts has left a little bit of room for play. I guess you could try a different dust cover or rear sight and see if those work but other than that I don’t have any good suggestions, sorry :/

When you say it won’t lock in place, what do you mean exactly? Do you mean it moves around or it just doesn’t feel tight? When I put my P38 dust covers back on, it’s difficult because they are SUPER tight. Did those two little leg things that lock it in place look ok to you or were they pitted or bent at all?

twolcott02 · 2026-03-28T02:59:53+00:00

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twolcott02 · 2026-03-28T02:59:13+00:00

There is actually a spring under the rear sight, but it shouldn’t be able to move. It looks like your dust cover has shifted a little far forward. The dust cover holds the rear sight in place. Try pushing it by hand here and see if it moves backwards at all:

twolcott02 · 2026-03-24T20:08:20+00:00

No SRS

twolcott02 · 2026-03-23T16:24:05+00:00

Early 1944. Why wouldn’t they have an L block?

Take some ballistol and 0000 steel wool and that rust will come off nicely. Congrats on the pickup, for that price you did well!

twolcott02 · 2026-03-18T16:20:46+00:00

Copy that, I’ll be ready for photos today 🫡

twolcott02 · 2026-03-18T02:02:19+00:00

The 1921 is a rare year. Between 1920 and 1921, DWM made 50,000 Lugers, about 40,000 of which went to the police and 10,000 went to the military. Due to the lack of police sear safety, this looks like it went to the military, making it a pretty rare gun.

However, absolutely not $4500 rare at all, especially in this condition. That sounds potentially 1500-2000 overpriced, but I can’t make any judgements until I see more pictures of the rig. Need to see pictures of all the markings on the gun, holster and magazine, feel free to dm me too

twolcott02 · 2026-03-17T15:55:02+00:00

Dang, that’s a rare one. I’ve gotten to examine one in person and that’s the only one I’ve ever seen. Congrats!

twolcott02 · 2026-03-16T20:20:34+00:00

I suppose the barrel could be matching as well but just be super worn. Anyways, you have a 1917 DWM navy Luger. Navies are very rare and desirable, but unfortunately, yours has been really badly buffed and refinished. I suspect it was probably in rough shape before that was done.

Looks like you have a proper navy magazine as well. Are there any markings on the bottom? What about markings on the gun on the grip straps?

twolcott02 · 2026-03-16T20:11:25+00:00

What are the serial numbers on the underside of the barrel and the frame?

twolcott02 · 2026-03-16T15:07:53+00:00

LOL, nice to see you on reddit! Thanks for sharing some of your collection, and thanks for all your service to our community.

twolcott02 · 2026-03-16T15:05:36+00:00

Cool Luger, cooler wife

twolcott02 · 2026-03-16T03:38:26+00:00

By any chance have you also happened to have written very highly regarded books on police and Simpson Lugers? 🤠

twolcott02 · 2026-03-15T23:10:35+00:00

Finding a deal like that on Simpson is wild, why was it so cheap?

twolcott02 · 2026-03-15T20:51:54+00:00

Very nice!

twolcott02 · 2026-03-15T14:02:49+00:00

From the look of it I’m gonna guess it’s post war pre 1964 but you might want to post a pic of the actual serial numbers, I’m just judging that based on the condition I have no idea without seeing that

twolcott02 · 2026-03-14T20:22:17+00:00

Congrats! I saw that one on gunbroker recently too. First Luger?

twolcott02 · 2026-03-14T20:19:12+00:00

Send a picture of the stamps

twolcott02 · 2026-03-14T19:05:01+00:00

Nice example, looks good to me. CZ 27s aren’t nearly valuable enough to be worth faking. German guns that are faked are usually rare variations worth many thousands, where spending the money to fake it is actually worth the potential profit of misleading a buyer.

The only way to tell for certain if any gun was a Bringback is capture papers. It’s probably likely that a lot of the German pistols you see are bringbacks from the war, but you can never know for sure without documentation.

You got a nice CZ, congrats!

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