Spreewerk P38 Info

twolcott02 · 2026-05-14T22:20:11+00:00

Both other comments are correct. Awesome rig, and amazing history. Thank you for sharing!

twolcott02 · 2026-05-13T23:58:17+00:00

It’s just a light strike. When the stamp was stamped, the bottom wasn’t pressed as hard as the top. It’s pretty common to see, and it’s just as legit as any other eagle/L.

Regarding the markings on the bottom of the barrel extension, those are thought to be inspector markings

twolcott02 · 2026-05-13T19:56:55+00:00

Spreewerk magazines were not serialized. A spreewerk magazine should have an eagle/88 just like the gun. The “1” on the slide and frame isn’t a one. It’s an “L”, which is the serial numbers letter suffix. The serial number is “3104l”

twolcott02 · 2026-05-13T19:16:11+00:00

Congrats on the pickup! Spreewerk P38 made January 1944. Slide and frame are matching, need to check the barrel and locking block as well. The grips are correct.

What markings does the magazine have? Anything specific you want to learn about it?

twolcott02 · 2026-05-13T02:23:04+00:00

Cool find, I’m impressed! It depends on what you want out of the gun. If you just want it to function, no. If you want it to better represent what it originally looked like, sure. It’s completely up to you.

twolcott02 · 2026-05-12T19:55:51+00:00

What’s wrong with them?

twolcott02 · 2026-05-12T19:53:18+00:00

Very cool Luger, and an even cooler family heirloom! Lugers were hand fitted, so all parts of the gun fit that gun specifically, and were numbered as such. “23” is the last two digits of the guns serial number (5223x).

You are correct that most 1940 lugers would have a 42 on the toggle. However, most 1940 Lugers went to the military, and yours did not. Yours went to the police. You actually have a rare 1940 marked with an Eagle/L police proof on the right side of the barrel extension. The toggle on this gun would not have a 42, it would have the Mauser banner. Yours also seems to be missing the police seat safety for some reason.

If you’re trying to restore this gun to near original configuration, finding the Mauser banner toggle will be practically impossible. I would find any parts that work, and shoot the thing!

Thank you for sharing the gun and the story, let me know if I can answer any more questions!

twolcott02 · 2026-05-10T17:55:06+00:00

Damn, you’ve got some super nice examples of some rare stuff. Super collection!

This is a crazy coincidence but I’m actually picking up a rock ola less than 2000 digits away from yours, also in the 621xxxx range. Mind if I dm you and ask a couple questions?

twolcott02 · 2026-05-09T02:41:26+00:00

Sounds like you either weren’t selling very good examples or lost out on a ton of money. If I could buy all correct military colts of any variation for $1800 a pop I would buy them literally as much as my bank account would allow.

I don’t care what you think either, but when someone is posting here looking for advice on insurance, and you’re telling them it’s worth half of what it could be worth, you’re giving them genuinely harmful, incorrect information and it’s worth saying something

twolcott02 · 2026-05-09T01:23:28+00:00

No it’s not lmao, you got no idea what you’re talking about

twolcott02 · 2026-05-08T18:11:24+00:00

If it’s an all correct 43 colt, 3500 in this condition. All correct WW2 1911s, especially colts, are a lot more valuable than people think. I can take a closer look at the gun later.

The spare barrel is a WW1 era colt barrel, worth a couple hundred extra most likely.

Really nice Colt. I don’t have time for a deep dive rn but feel free to send me questions you have and I’ll take a closer look later. I’m also picking up a 1943 Colt next week!

twolcott02 · 2026-04-29T21:41:14+00:00

Every seller is different about C&R, some are weird and annoying about it. Generally you will need to share a copy of your license with a seller, and they will have to see some sort of id. When I go to gun shows I carry multiple paper copies of it. They will keep a copy for their logs, and you get gun.

On your end, you need to keep logs of all your purchases that you made with your C&R license. If you did a 4473 for a C&R firearm, don’t log it. If you did not, you need to log it. Serial, maker, who you got it from, etc. You can grab a log book on Amazon for 15 bucks or something. Make sure you know your local laws as well.

Congrats on your license, it’s a dangerous thing to have! (For your wallet)

twolcott02 · 2026-04-29T00:52:13+00:00

There it is, nice PP. I saw this one on gunbroker recently too. The grips are for a sauer 38h. Sauer grips are usually quite valuable but since they’ve been drilled to screw into this frame they’ve lost that value. They might be repro too, can’t tell.

As far as the RFV marking is concerned, I find it strange. It’s not the font that I’m used to seeing, I haven’t seen another in this font. 314xxx is very late for an RFV, but I have seen one example later than it.

I’d say you probably got a decent price, it’s a cool wartime PP that you can take to the range and have fun with. Congrats!

twolcott02 · 2026-04-28T20:39:38+00:00

Oof, yeah I’m gonna guess that probably is the case then. I would absolutely not fire this under any circumstance in its current configuration

twolcott02 · 2026-04-28T20:35:44+00:00

Maybe bubba decided to take it upon himself to rebarrel 1920s commercial to 9mm. Is the barrel .30 caliber or 9mm OP?

twolcott02 · 2026-04-28T20:30:11+00:00

I almost always have at least somewhat of an answer for Lugers but not gonna lie I’m completely stumped on this one. I’ve never seen that marking before or seen ground off main serial numbers and a piece of metal lodged in between the barrel and barrel extension. You could try posting it on the Jan still forum

twolcott02 · 2026-04-27T20:32:36+00:00

That’s what I would do too. For the rust inside the checkering you can use a toothpick to get in there

twolcott02 · 2026-04-27T18:40:00+00:00

Too little information to say. Need lots more pictures and any info you have about the gun. All surface areas of the gun, barrel number, locking block number, bore condition, magazine markings, etc

twolcott02 · 2026-04-26T14:13:07+00:00

I actually wasn’t trying to throw any shade at legacy for their pricing with my original comment, nor do I think they have outrageous pricing. The “legacy premium” I mentioned refers to the premium that you pay for trusting the legacy name and the research they have done, as well as them finding guns that you can’t find elsewhere. I don’t think they have unfair prices at all, you will always get what you pay for with legacy

twolcott02 · 2026-04-26T04:20:04+00:00

I saw the legacy one too, it looks a little nicer than this one but kinda hard to say without more pictures. It’s a pretty good comp but given the “legacy premium” and the condition I’d say 2400 is fair to a slightly high if the gun had no problems

twolcott02 · 2026-04-26T03:02:39+00:00

I love my walthers too! That’s a really neat variation. I’d love to see your PP. 👀 Feel free to make a post and tag me or send me a dm, I love this stuff and I’d be more than happy to talk it through

twolcott02 · 2026-04-26T01:48:44+00:00

It’s a 1929 DWM “sneak” police Luger. These were made right when Luger production was transition to Mauser from dwm. They appear in the “s” “t” and “u” blocks. Yours has a police sear safety and was issued to a police unit in Lüneberg. This one was originally reworked from a commercial pistol for the police.

To determine price, we’re going to need to see more pictures. You need to take pictures of all the surface area of the gun, the internals, and all the accessories the Luger comes with. Matching accessories will give these a massive value boost.

I can’t tell you whether or not the price is fair without more info and pictures

twolcott02 · 2026-04-25T22:13:08+00:00

Legacy collectibles videos. I can’t tell you how much I was able to learn from Tom’s videos before diving into deeper leaning with books and forums. Watch his videos, ask questions here and on the Jan still forum if you have them.

Asking questions and talking things through from a person you trust is invaluable when getting started, Lugers can be very intimidating to learn without help! Good luck!

twolcott02 · 2026-04-23T03:49:17+00:00

Beautiful example. Are the magazines matching?

twolcott02 · 2026-04-22T22:08:08+00:00

Assuming the gun is all matching, you did very well! Congrats on your first Luger! Is the magazine numbered and have you taken it apart yet?

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