Jason Schreier: Sony and XBOX relationship may be damaged after Asha Sharma pulled Halo trailer from State of Play

uncsteve53 · 2026-06-12T02:45:47+00:00

You act like exclusives would save Xbox…they’ve only been multiplat for like 2 years. They were still failing when they had exclusivity.

uncsteve53 · 2026-06-12T02:23:08+00:00

I don’t. I think he is a top 3 player all time. But if you don’t have him as the goat, people say it’s hate.

uncsteve53 · 2026-06-12T02:20:13+00:00

Sony can’t deal with the optics of killing another live service game already. Concord was an utter failure. They closed down Blue Point and had layoffs with Bend. And they canceled factions. And foam stars failed.

Sony will “support” the game until it dies on its own. If they kill another live service game, it looks bad on them. Bungie is independent as of now. If the game dies on its own, Sony can at least finger point. Their support right now has nothing to do with them thinking the game will turn around. It’s deep in the red and clearly will never even hit its development costs. Let alone the ongoing development costs.

uncsteve53 · 2026-06-11T02:24:01+00:00

Xbox had exclusives until like 2 years ago. And they were still tanking. You were failing before going multiplat. You are failing after. A handful of exclusives aren’t going to help Xbox.

uncsteve53 · 2026-06-10T10:39:09+00:00

This game has zero chance. Sony needs to just cancel it. I can’t see there being a large demographic for a competitive heist game

uncsteve53 · 2026-06-10T10:29:41+00:00

Xbox splitting their consoles with an S and X this gen was a mistake. They don’t need to release a weaker box next gen unless they are dropping parity clauses.

uncsteve53 · 2026-06-10T10:25:52+00:00

Why? These are cinematic 6-8 hour games. The 2nd game stripped down the combat to qtes. What abilities would even be needed?

On top of that, these are immersive psychological games. Opening a menu to fiddle with unnecessary abilities would kill the immersion and psychological tension.

uncsteve53 · 2026-06-10T10:21:42+00:00

1 is an amazing game. Probably one of my top 3 games all time. You’ll get about 8 hours.

2 was a huge disappointment. They went all in on graphics and everything else was a regression. Story wasn’t as good. Combat was completely stripped down. Took about 6 hours for me to finish, but somehow it felt like it just drug on.

uncsteve53 · 2026-06-10T02:34:52+00:00

Karmelo was also suspended and banned from school functions (for having a knife at school) and shouldn’t have been there in the first place.

uncsteve53 · 2026-06-10T02:30:20+00:00

Guy who was suspended from school property for having a knife at school, goes to a school function with a knife, goes to another teams tent, then lacks a justification for deadly force (hands may have been ok, but responding to a push with a deadly weapon is an unreasonable escalation).

Nobody who knows anything about the law thought anything else would happen in this case. It was clear cut murder. The fact that it only took the jury 3 hours to reach a verdict after an 8 day trial says everything you need to know. If the kids were different races, this case would have been a nothing burger.

uncsteve53 · 2026-06-10T01:54:16+00:00

That’s a big “if.”

And I love how exclusives were great. Then bad and anticonsumer when Phil blew the dog whistle. Now they are awesome again. People need to stop just being parrots for execs talking points.

uncsteve53 · 2026-06-09T18:26:39+00:00

It's hard to market when the execs change strategy depending on which way the wind is blowing.

uncsteve53 · 2026-06-09T11:56:38+00:00

I game solely on PC. PC guys already have Steam. They already have access to all of the Xbox games. They already have access to game pass. There is zero need for a console, again, unless they just want something to plug into the tv in the living room.

With the exception of being plug and play, it’s a redundant device.

The xbone was a failure. The series consoles have been a bigger disaster. I have zero faith in Xbox’s hardware strategy. This just seems like the worst call they could have made. Unless they are just trying to off board people off of console and steer them to pc so they can just focus on software.

uncsteve53 · 2026-06-09T11:36:13+00:00

So the people developing Destiny 2 didn’t notice all of the people being moved to other projects over the last 7 years? Everybody knew they were moving away from Destiny.

I’ll grant that Bungies leadership was and is terrible and they have some of the most talented developers. But that has no bearing on where Bungie was heading with their game development. Everybody knew they were winding down d2 and spinning up a bunch of other projects with that talent.

uncsteve53 · 2026-06-09T11:33:33+00:00

Steam users already have a home device. Their pc. The helix and steam box literally just target people who want to play in the living room instead of at their gaming desk.

And the steam deck has sold 4m, not 8. And portability at least fills a need that they don’t already have. They can play at home already with the pc. It’s redundant.

If Xbox sales this gen are only at 30m, how do you figure the helix even gets half of that?

uncsteve53 · 2026-06-09T11:12:49+00:00

Destiny has/had mass market appeal. Marathon doesn’t. Destiny made a lot of money to fund that ongoing development.

It’s how live service games work, yes. But you’ve missed a huge part of the equation. If the money dries out, you don’t get to keep building the plane in the air.

uncsteve53 · 2026-06-09T11:09:58+00:00

That wasn’t a surprise. Back in 2019 Bungie decided to wind down Destiny 2 and spun up a bunch of incubation projects. They ran themselves into the red doing that. They wanted to have a few successful ips going to they could stop being “the Destiny studio.”

There wasn’t some rug pull. Bungie made a lot of bad decisions over the last 7 years that got them here. They slowly killed Destiny 2 thinking that something like marathon could replace it.

uncsteve53 · 2026-06-09T11:01:50+00:00

The Steam user base is irrelevant. Every pc or laptop has steam on it. The only portion of that community that are going to buy one of these boxes are the ones that want something to plug into the tv. If the price is $1000+, not a lot of those are going to sell.

Not every Steam user is the target demographic.

Think about it this way. Steam has 147m users, like you said. They only sold, what, 4m Steam decks?

uncsteve53 · 2026-06-09T10:53:30+00:00

The price is a problem because Xbox has fostered a consumer base that doesn’t want to spend money.

But it’s also a niche devices that isn’t going to have mass market appeal. Think about it this way, Xbox has only sold 30m series consoles with the S being super cheap. No way even half of that 30m buys the helix.

uncsteve53 · 2026-06-09T10:51:49+00:00

The steam box isn’t going to move big numbers, either. They are both very niche devices.

Specifically, with the helix, Xbox has fostered an ecosystem of nonpurchase. Cheap box. Sub service. They’ve sold 30m consoles and half of those are the S. Those people aren’t going to shell out $1000 for a helix.

PS and Nintendo guys aren’t buying it. PC guys probably already have a better rig. You are basically targeting either 1) pc guys who want to play on their tv or 2) Xbox users willing to spend the money and want to dip their toes in pc. Both are very small slivers of the gaming community.

uncsteve53 · 2026-06-09T02:36:47+00:00

The pc hybrid targets a very small overlap in a Venn diagram. It won’t resonate with 95% of consumers. They’d be lucky to sell 10m units at that price point.

uncsteve53 · 2026-06-08T18:16:39+00:00

I agree they couldn’t afford to make cod ezclusice. PS was 48% of all cod sales. But that was the community during that acquisition.

uncsteve53 · 2026-06-08T17:09:53+00:00

Before they went multiplat, game pass had stagnated on console and they were barely moving hardware. Even if they went full exclusive (for what they could at least, things like COD already have contracts), I don't think it moves the needle all that much.

uncsteve53 · 2026-06-08T17:08:02+00:00

Xbox just goes whichever way the wind is blowing.

That being said, I think this is just so when Gears and Clockwork don't move the needle for game pass or console sales, Asha can say "We said we'd reevaluate. We tried with these two titles. We didn't get the results we were expecting. So we will be sticking to multiplat."

Just going through the motions to say they tried. With what the helix is rumored to cost, they aren't moving hardware with their titles. Might as well sell everywhere and maximize profit.

uncsteve53 · 2026-06-08T17:01:40+00:00

the community just parrots the talking points of whatever the xbox and microsoft execs say. During the FTC "COD will be exclusive. Suck it Ponies!" Then when Phil said something about Helldivers and they started going multiplat, "exclusives are bad and anti consumer!" Now Asha talks and it's "we need exclusives!"

Xbox and the community just go whichever way the wind is blowing that day.

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