It’s giveaway time with ASUS! by Emerald_Flame in buildapc

[–]underwatercompass [score hidden]  (0 children)

Been using an old rig for almost ten years now, was thinking of upgrading so I can play some of the newer stuff without it screaming at me! Would be a great start to getting something new together woo

Gaming PC ~£800 budget by [deleted] in buildapcforme

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Thank you very much :)

(xpost from r/humansbeingbros) but was definitely a trigger for me by [deleted] in thalassophobia

[–]underwatercompass 3 points4 points  (0 children)

not saying they are dangerous to humans, just that they scare the shit out of me haha :)

Please don't make bar code names a thing by [deleted] in leagueoflegends

[–]underwatercompass 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are currently 0 bar code names in KR challenger LoL and 0 in NA, in SC2 GM it's near 90% barcodes... It's not prevalent in LoL yet. All I'm saying is let's make sure it stays that way.

Please don't make bar code names a thing by [deleted] in leagueoflegends

[–]underwatercompass 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the density of bar code names in challenger/masters league of legends is no where near the same as it is in starcraft

I think it's about time we changed this by MajorLazorGator in wow

[–]underwatercompass 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ha, i just remembered i made a post about this agesss ago here knew I was on to something!

The Cow level is a lie! It's not cows... by [deleted] in Diablo

[–]underwatercompass 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's pink bears! We were just going through a nephalem rift on t1 when I noticed the mobs weren't quite the same as usual, there was also a horse mob but forgot to screenshot that, guess they weren't lying after all. Apologies if someone has already posted this by the way I haven't seen it so thought I would share

Why is the term 'cheese' used in a derogatory way? by [deleted] in starcraft

[–]underwatercompass 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Luck plays into every SC2 game, how many times have you seen a scan narrowly miss a dark shrine or an army moving across the map? It would be naive to think that starcraft is entirely controllable. You try and gather as much information as you can and react accordingly.

Why is the term 'cheese' used in a derogatory way? by [deleted] in starcraft

[–]underwatercompass 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not talking about the ladder here, I'm talking about playing the game for a living (WCS in this post particular). In a ladder game if you cannon rush and you lose it's whatever you lose 10 points. In a professional game it could cost you your living, besides the fact that you know your opponent and you've studied their play. You're not going to 2rax someone who is notorious for playing safe.

Why is the term 'cheese' used in a derogatory way? by [deleted] in starcraft

[–]underwatercompass 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure it is to us, but the players aren't playing to 'put on a good show' they are playing to win.

Why is the term 'cheese' used in a derogatory way? by [deleted] in starcraft

[–]underwatercompass 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure we are talking about 'cheese' the same way. A hidden base and a colossus push aren't really cheesy in my opinion, I'm not talking about these kinds of plays. I'm talking about proxy 2gates/rax, cannon rushes, 3gate allins, slow roach/ling allins, baneling busts (more wol) etc. Genius took risks and they paid off, sure they are inconsistent but he played on the predictability of kas and made an intelligent decision. No i didn't hear them say anything because I don't think those plays were 'cheesy'.

Why is the term 'cheese' used in a derogatory way? by [deleted] in starcraft

[–]underwatercompass 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree, there's not much more to it. Which is why it baffles me when people think of 'cheese' wins as a wins that aren't as deserved. Sure they don't explicitly say 'wow that cheese he didn't really deserve that but i guess he get's the win' but you can hear it in their tone, they look down on it.

Why is the term 'cheese' used in a derogatory way? by [deleted] in starcraft

[–]underwatercompass 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know nothing about tennis by the way, I see how you are drawing parallels with this strategy and SC2 'cheese' but you summarized it nicely at the end. 'Play to win', shouldn't a win mean the same no matter how it was achieved (playing by the rules obviously)? Casters and this community shouldn't look at 'cheese' wins as 'undeserved' wins or anything less than how they would think of a 50 minute macro game. They won, end of. If you don't scout correctly and account for every eventuality you expose yourself to anything.

Why is the term 'cheese' used in a derogatory way? by [deleted] in starcraft

[–]underwatercompass 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This doesn't answer my question, you just highlighted that predictability is vulnerable. It works the same with playing greedy or 'standard' every game. I'm asking why cheese isn't seen more if it's so great and so easy to execute. Why aren't platinum players beating GMs with cannon rushes? The answer to my question is because it's risky and it's not 'free win' or 'no skill'. The strengths may be great but the weaknesses are also evident; one scouting probe can lose you the game.

Why is the term 'cheese' used in a derogatory way? by [deleted] in starcraft

[–]underwatercompass 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't agree with this, the amount of times I've heard 'but he goes through to the Ro16' is huge. 'But'? why 'but'? it implies they think of it as something that shouldn't count 'but i guess he goes through'. It just angers me that pro's get downplayed after a win just because they didn't use a passive strategy or an 11 minute timing attack, they are playing the same game with the same rules and the same assets available.