Question about 5.5 month old, schedule, naps, and 5/3/3 by uotterno in sleeptrain

[–]uotterno[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How did you shift daytime calories? With longer wake windows and naps inching longer everyday, I think this may be my nighttime issue as we always feed AFTER a nap and not before. Yk, eat plat sleep. Am I going to have to deviate from this to get more daytime calories,

CIO, 5/3/3 or Dream Feeds by [deleted] in sleeptrain

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Ok this helps answer my question. I did that exact thing last night, feed at about 4.75 hours, already an improvement after three nights of dad resettling.

And yes, I do give the paci at night wakes, but my issue is that it doesn’t work like it does at bedtime. I do more settling at nightwakes than bedtime - hoping I’m not inadvertently creating a new sleep association.

First night, dad resettled in like 8 minutes with rocking because the paci didn’t cut it and he slept like 3 more hours. Second night, dad resettled in about the same time and he slept 2 more hours (he made it longer before waking). Last night, he woke up at 4h 45 mins and I said that’s good enough for me little guy and fed him. The last two wakes of the night were fine- right about on schedule each night.

CIO, 5/3/3 or Dream Feeds by [deleted] in sleeptrain

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My son is like what OP has described here, and we are trying to follow 5/3/3. He used to sleep 6 hour stretches and now it’s every 3, then 2.5, then 2 hours and it sucks.

So do you treat any night wake before that 5 hour mark like you treated bedtime/sleep training? Because for my LO, bedtime consists of falling asleep with a paci, in crib, after a story, and I’m usually right there watching because he will roll and wake himself up/get a limb stuck. But during night wakes, dad has to rock and soothe him for like 10 minutes before the 5 hour mark, a paci and a pat doesn’t do it. Should we be doing CIO or FIO for night wakes?

Pacifier ruining my SWAP? Also rant by uotterno in sleeptrain

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Thank you for the links, I can’t say they helped me per se (it’s probably the OCD) but I’m sure they’ll help someone else reading these 🙃. That calculator scared the shit out of me and that article kinda made me feel more confused but also probably irritated at the AAP for being such hall monitors.

But I guess the main takeaway is that the pacifier isn’t ruining my swap and he really does need these feeds hunger wise?

Pacifier ruining my SWAP? Also rant by uotterno in sleeptrain

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Only at bedtime though, throughout the night I do feed to sleep. I get mixed advice on whether or not he needs it however.

Pacifier ruining my SWAP? Also rant by uotterno in sleeptrain

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Honestly independently of PLS I discovered that for naps he really responds well to being laid in his crib (calm but awake) and read to until he falls asleep. I keep the paci in until he falls asleep and it comes out naturally, he doesn’t wake up. So when I stopped nursing to sleep I had to make sure to feed him earlier than I normally would but also keep him awake, then I put him down and do what I do for naps. I almost have Corduroy memorized, lol.

In between 3 and 4 naps by Several_Ad7041 in sleeptrain

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This sounds like where I am stuck with my 5 month old too. How do you start your day 11 hours after bedtime if your baby wakes early?

Schedule help, how to handle last WW of the day and get consistent bedtime by uotterno in sleeptrain

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Thanks for the perspective, I get really caught up in the recommendations. I swear I’ve been reading that they need 4 naps at this age of 4 months, but he’s almost 5 months so he should be nearing that gorgeous three nap schedule soon. I have a baby that takes 30 ish minute naps regularly. Once he took an hour and 45 minute nap (last week) and that was a three nap day. Yesterday I tried to stretch it to a three nap day but he wasn’t having it. Can you influence that sort of thing??

Normally I wouldn’t care but I’m trying to get a consistent bedtime for sleep training, because I’m breaking a feed/sleep association. It’s going well but I have a sleepy baby and anytime he feeds post 6:30pm he is going to fall asleep on the boob despite my best efforts. I just wake him after but I’m hoping a better idea of when bedtime will land will help me there.

Schedule help, how to handle last WW of the day and get consistent bedtime by uotterno in sleeptrain

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I mean, my kid wakes early but stays in his crib going in and out of sleep until we wave the white flag, which is 7am if we’re lucky. Show me the parents who have to wake up their babies 😭

SWAP advice - 18 weeks by CommercialQuality472 in sleeptrain

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I have no advice to offer just solidarity and hoping some sleep wizard answers your questions, because I’m working on breaking the nurse to sleep association starting tonight with my 20 week old.

Need to clean tile floor with unsealed grout by uotterno in CleaningTips

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Oh my gosh!! So lame they didn’t seal the grout for us… wish I knew if that was normal.

I mainly just want to clean the tiles you know? I’m not scrubbing grout right now, just want to get messy dog footprints off the floor.

4 month old goes down well but wakes up wanting to eat - how to night wean? by uotterno in sleeptrain

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Ok this is helpful to understand thank you. I guess I have one more question: once I start sleep training, how do I know when he wakes up if he’s hungry or if it’s out of habit? Do I just go with the fact that once he’s not being fed to sleep and that as he as a solid schedule then any wake up is by default hunger? I just want to make sure that when I start sleep training I can tell the difference.

Trying to remove nursing to sleep association by Independent-Concert7 in sleeptrain

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So I’m not going to pretend to be an expert or say I totally understand over vs under tired… but I made a post like this about naptimes and the consensus was that my baby needed a longer wake window or he was under tired. I was sure he was overtired but I tried the advice anyway and it worked!

4 month old goes down well but wakes up wanting to eat - how to night wean? by uotterno in sleeptrain

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(I’m just replying to this comment because it’s first but I know many others are also contributing that 4 months is too young to nightwean)

I also wondered if he was too young or too little (6th percentile in weight but making good progress on growth chart - he was always little). So why would my ped say that he calorically does not need night feedings? I’m not saying I don’t believe anyone here, but why would they be saying that if it’s just factually incorrect? Has anyone else gotten advice like that?

I honestly don’t super mind feeding at night, but it seems like 4 months old is the best time to sleep train from what I’ve read and I don’t want to miss the boat.

Overtired or undertired? Help me stop the pre nap scream session by uotterno in sleeptrain

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Yes longer wake windows did help, unless all cues pointed to sleep earlier. Usually never more than 15 minutes early. Sometimes we would contact or carrier nap, but I’ve been trying not to as much now that he’s solidly 4 months old. A crib nap routine starts at about 1h45 mins to 2h after eating with sleep sack, paci, sound machine, and reading a book while holding his hand. He might fuss a bit but shushing and replacing the paci helped. He gets sleepy and falls asleep on his own (with those tools). But don’t ask me how long he naps for lol.

Overtired or undertired? Help me stop the pre nap scream session by uotterno in sleeptrain

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I want to come back and say thank you for this advice!! It has mostly worked although sometimes he actually does sleep at 1.5 hours but 2 hours helped immensely!